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by Jabelone
9 months ago in Design Dilemma
Master bath without doors
We have a set up similar to these pictures with the master bath and the walk-in closet on either side behind the wall with the bed on it. I've noticed in many pictures with a similar arrangement, there are no doors to either the master bath or the walk-in closet. Wondering how practical this is in terms of noise, privacy etc... and if anyone lives with a similar design?

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Dytecture Hi Jabelone, I lived in a home without any doors with similar layout as the photos. As long as the bathroom isn't visible from the bed it should be fine. If not you can always install a door to separate these 2 areas.
9 months ago ·
Carolyn Albert-Kincl Design Some people would be comfortable without the door and others would not. It would make an interesting poll question.
9 months ago ·
Vikrant Sharma Homez Personally I Feel , Its quite Bizarre !
9 months ago ·
feeny Well, it can't be as problematic as this master bath design (in terms of privacy):

9 months ago ·
Carolyn Albert-Kincl Design Aha, the exhibitionists' choice, for sure!
9 months ago · ·
Jabelone Obviously the "doorless" concept is more suited to a modern interior than traditional but seems to be quite common if number of photos here is anything to go by. Definitely think the toilet and shower should be concealed behind a wall (unlike the photo feeny posted) but quite like the open feel of no doors.
9 months ago ·
larryhinkle I personally dont want to look a closets or feel like i have to keep it looking like a Macy's display at all times. Bathrooms I think depend on the couples personalities and schedules. I was an only child and I have bathroom privacy issues that people who grew up in large families dont
9 months ago · ·
Main Line Kitchen Design This is a new concept coming from architects and designers who, as students, were taught to "think outside the box". It has come across my desk quite frequently of late.

As a somewhat pompous Kitchen Designer I know often said. "If you are Leonardo Da Vinci and know all the rules of design then you are free to break them, but you my friend, are no Da Vinci".

I love Fenny's picture. I will steel myself for when it hits my desk.
9 months ago · ·
Rio Brewster IMHO closet doors are one of the greatest inventions EVER.

I don't think I'd mind having an open entrance to the master bath next to the bed - that door rarely gets closed in our house - but only if it was situated so you could only see the vanity and the toilet and shower were around the corner. Actually I'd rather have that than what we now have - the bed faces the door to the bathroom.
9 months ago ·
Main Line Kitchen Design A pocket door or doors will give you the look, but retain the ability to have bathroom privacy should the need arise, or for when you wish to sell the home and not turn off some buyers. This design feature would be a deal breaker for many.
9 months ago ·
cindycarnes If your budget does not allow for door installation, you could hang curtains on rings that easily slide open or closed. Slide them all the way to the right on right side and left on left side when you want it open. This look is clean and can be contemporary when using the correct rod and rings. I would suggest a semi or Demi sheer fabric. Good luck.
8 months ago ·
Jabelone It's really just a design issue. We bought the doors already (but they aren't hung). If the doors swing they take up valuable floor space in the closet and master bath (if they swing in) or in the bedroom (if they swing out). As for pocket doors, we have several of the builder grade ones elsewhere in the house and don't really like them. The pocket recession just collects dirt and dust and makes the an ideal home for spiders (and occasionally mice -we're in the country). That's what draws us to the more open concept, but can totally understand the issues about hiding a messy closet and bathroom privacy, ventilation etc.. as well. If anyone has other ideas, please keep them coming. They are all appreciated.

Here are two floor plan options we are weighing if that helps.
8 months ago ·
modern11526 I think it's absolutely gorgeous, just make sure you keep your closet clean!
8 months ago ·
Jabelone This might be a solution. It's called a Rototranslating door. Swings both ways and takes up less space. Anyone seen these?

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8 months ago ·
Monique Jacqueline Design I agree with Feeny and Dytecture!
8 months ago ·
Elise Try shoji style doors in the wall pockets, or you can get etched glass.
8 months ago ·
mapeggy I think responders want to know the actual situation before they put in all the time and effort to help people. You did not mention you already bought the doors until many had responded with their ideas. So when your actual question was posed...your two choices... you got very little the response. I know myself, taking time to look and analyze the problem then draw out a solution or research to find pictures takes time... then only to find the person has already bought something, decided what they want to do or already picked out the paint and accessories. I have looked at your two designs. The first , the door is too close to the vanity. In the second you have lost too much closet space and there appears to be little wall space for a dresser in the bedroom itself. I am not sure why you want to put in side walls in such an open space plan. Side walls work only if you are doing an elaborate headboard treatment. My suggestion is leave off the bed side walls. Then compromise and move the doors half way between the two designs. This will leave you about a foot or so space behind the door in your closet. Enough room to build in some open shelving for purses, accessories, sun glasses, etc. In order to 'balance' both sides... moving the bath doorway equal distance as the closet, would eliminate the too close to the vanity problem. Hope this helps.
In answer to the rototranslating door. They generally do not take up less space, unless your referring to "behind the door" space. The ones I am familiar with require the actual doorway opening to be larger than normal...so the width of the opening allows people to easily pass through the space. Because the door itself is "inside" the walking space and thus takes up an additional 4" - 6" of pass though width.
8 months ago · ·
Jabelone mapeggy, appreciate the response. I didn't mention that we had already bought the doors originally because it shouldn't influence anyone's opinion. That's all. They weren't overly expensive doors so we can use them or not (probably won't). So there were always more than two choices to consider. Most important to us is that the design is effective and functional over the long term. The sidewalls were drawn in for a proposed headboard treatment - just as you suspected. You make a good point about the rototranslating doors being "inside" the door frame when open and taking up space there, but yes, I was referring to the swinging space, so guess it's a trade off. The rototranslating hardware is not easy to find (locally) or install so probably wouldn't be en effective solution for us upon further research. I do appreciate that people take time to look at and analyze design problems to offer a solution. On the other hand, it is quite difficult to include every possible relevant piece of information without the posts becoming long and complex. It seems people got the gist in this case and the responses were helpful.
8 months ago · ·
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