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m5askqu5
November 19, 2012 in Design Dilemma
Just purchased our home. I'm not sure what to do with our kitchen windows: curtains, blinds? They face the south, very sunny. We have wood floors that have faded because of this. They crank out. Only the two on each end open. Any ideas? I think they're about 18" wide each.
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Deborah Butler, Brickwood Builders
In a kitchen, I like a really simple look. Something like this.
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nevadan
Put an awning outside and also window boxes for year round bloom. You need curtains.
1 Like   November 19, 2012 at 12:17PM
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lefty47
HI --- Hunter Douglas has blinds for light control that would be perfect for you. There is also a UV window film that can help. No awning on the outside and with crankout windows you won't want window boxes in the way and they are a pain with constant watering on hot days and you don't have time with a baby either.
0 Likes   November 19, 2012 at 12:46PM
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Fenstermann LLC
Congrats on your new home! I supply a very nice window treatment that gives light control and is very easy to use. They are also stringless up to 5', so kids or pets cant mangle the pulls. The options are around 400, which is 350 more than any other company (including HD)with a single system.

Here are some pictures,
3 Likes   November 19, 2012 at 1:43PM
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charleee
The first thing I would do is put a smoky window film on each window. This will cut down on the glare and the heat, and should help to protect the floors, too. After that any of the suggestions for coverings above would work fine.
0 Likes   November 19, 2012 at 2:16PM
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JMittman Designs
I think I responded to a post on this without the picture maybe? Be sure to use blackout lining on your window treatments--you need something to block the sun from further damaging your floors, furniture etc.
0 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 8:39AM
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m5askqu5
Thank you all for your suggestions. Yes, we definitely don't want to ruin the wood once we refinish the floors! We don't have a big budget, so custom treatments might not be an option. That size window (if we put one shade in each) might be hard to find.
0 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 8:42AM
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charleee
Actually, if you go with 2 1/2" horizontal blinds they're very inexpensive, I think they start at $20/each. And stores like Home Depot will cut them to your specific measurement while you wait.
3 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 8:45AM
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greenthumb2
outside mount hardware you like using a ready-made fabric. check some of the many fabric patterns available and work you way out from there depending on budget. Remember to make curtains full, you need to buy a few more panels. So maybe for this window set, you may need 3 - 5 depending on their width.
0 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 8:46AM
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JMittman Designs
What are the dimensions of the windows?
0 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 9:00AM
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Weatherwell Elite - Aluminum Shutters
How about just simple shutters so you can bend the light by altering the blades.
5 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 9:04AM
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m5askqu5
The two middle windows are 20 1/2 x 44"...the two crank-outs on each end are 21 3/4 x 44". There is a screen on the crank-outs that make it a different size, screen's on the inside of the window.
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m5askqu5
I considered one roman shade or 2" faux wood in the middle (covering the two middle non-opening windows) and then custom order two matching for the crank-outs. Just not a lot of wood to mount to, unless I could mount to the underside of the top of the frame?
0 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 9:25AM
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krancmm
You don't mention your climate. If in a hot climate, like here in south Texas, UV window films are a possibility, but not long lasting or very effective. Curtains (even blackout) and blinds fade and deteriorate fairly quickly also in our direct sun.

We typically use a local company that has "industrial" quality window film (3M and Madico) that mitigates both UV and heat transference and doesn't have the bronze/aluminum look of DIY products. It's not cheap in the short term, but lasts years and allows you to leave the windows uncovered or have any window treatment you prefer.
1 Like   November 20, 2012 at 9:28AM
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charleee
Yes you can. All my wood blinds are mounted to the underside of the frame. It's a much cleaner look! Do your crankouts actually crank "out"? Or do they crank in? If they crank out, you could still do the wood blinds! Just roll them up to the top when you need the fresh air.
0 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 9:29AM
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m5askqu5
The windows open out. The crank is just in the way, but the blinds/shades can stop just above it. Not a whole lot of room behind the crank. I think it would work. I think walnut colored 2" faux wood blinds would look nice, that will be close to the stain we'll use on the floor- the rest of the house is walnut.
2 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 9:32AM
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charleee
Perfect! And your next design dilemma post on Houzz should be "Is there a replacement for the crank in crank windows? It's interfering with my window treatments: !!!
5 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 9:35AM
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JMittman Designs
UGGH. I hate when the screens are on the inside. That could present a problem with mounting. You need to make sure you can remove the screens--if you ever need to, and having them there will limit your mounting space. Are these windows on an angle--sort of a bay, or are they in a straight line? I can't tell. If on an angle, and you purchase your blinds youself, make sure you don't get them too wide so that they bump into each other on the angles--get it? Take precise measurements. **You can also get replacement handles for those crank handles--you can by T handles--works the same, only takes up less room.**
1 Like   November 20, 2012 at 2:10PM
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charleee
You can also mount the blinds above the top window trim as the header is about 2" deep. And would work especially well if the blinds matched the window trim!

Oh, and maybe you could have your crank windows motorized......
0 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 2:13PM
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m5askqu5
It's a bay window...
0 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 4:01PM
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dcer
I agree with the above comments. Keep it simple, no fussy valances, just nice blinds.
2 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 4:04PM
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www.newjerseyaccents.com
Actually, there is a replacement handle with a profile that takes up way less space: http://www.plumbersurplus.com/Prod/Prime-Line-Products-H3536-Window-Handle-Tee-Crank/148040/Cat/1463?gclid=CM_4l6ni3rMCFYZM4AodG2oA8A
Also, to save money I have purchased roll up shades and roman shades (wood or clothe) and have altered them myself. Will save you a lot of money.
0 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 4:10PM
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C Wright Design
Congratulations on your new home! From this photograph the wall color looks to be a medium value, with cabinets and ceiling a light creamy white. If that is correct, I would consider a roman shade in a light creamy white to match the cabinets and ceiling - mounted at the ceiling height. This will make the ceiling look higher, and when the shade is open it will stack above the window so it does not take up part of the view when you don't need it down for glare. These roman shades are available at all the usual suspects: Crate and Barrel, Pottery Barn, etc. and it sounds like you should be able to get them in sizes that would work without going custom. Good luck!
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nevadan
I am re-visiting. I have a typo in my previous note. I meant to say - if you have an awning you will not need curtains. Curtains and blinds in a kitchen are a pain. They get VERY dirty if you actually cook.
1 Like   November 20, 2012 at 5:13PM
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nevadan
I am re-visiting. I have a typo in my previous note. I meant to say - if you have an awning you will not need curtains. Curtains and blinds in a kitchen are a pain. They get VERY dirty if you actually cook.
0 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 5:13PM
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lionnessone
Two words: "HUNTER DOUGLAS"
2 Likes   November 20, 2012 at 7:23PM
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m5askqu5
I sooo wish we could afford Hunter Douglas. I'd love to have nice window treatments like they have on their site.

I do cook...and bake. A lot! So they'll need to be easy to maintain.
0 Likes   November 21, 2012 at 6:09AM
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Copper Leaf Interior Design Studio
Hunter Douglas has great products ranging from wood blinds and shutters to soft window shades. They are great with reducing the sun's rays and also help with UV protection for your flooring and furniture. Hunter Douglas' products are a little more expensive than just your normal JC Penny window treatments, but they are definitely worth it. Hunter Douglas is always having special promotions with cash back opportunities. I would check into it and at least get a quote if you haven't already done so.
2 Likes   November 21, 2012 at 6:17AM
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lionnessone
Follow the above advice.
Trust me; you will be pleased with Hunter Douglas, great company. Hunter Douglas has sales on all the time. Talk to the experts there and ask for a discount. Let them know your budget and they will be able to work something out with you.
Check them out!
2 Likes   November 21, 2012 at 7:59AM
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momsy
Top down, bottom up blinds with blockout lining. I got mine made by a company in Texas. They have saved my furniture from scorching sun and keep house toasty on wintery nights. Window films, professionally installed are a wonderful enhancement. http://www.justblinds.com/natural-wood-shades
0 Likes   November 22, 2012 at 3:47PM
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Jan Albert Design
I think the window is sort of in an awkward place in the kitchen...it wants to have something underneath...like a counter. I'd do solar shades and make them the color of the walls...sort of make them disappear but will keep out the sun, while still allowing you to see out.
0 Likes   November 23, 2012 at 6:37AM
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littlemsclimber
What about plantation shutters they can let light in but still not ruin your floors and they will also match existing cabinets. Here are some examples: Morningside Kitchen Renovation 1 and Morningside Kitchen Renovation 2. They can expensive but they can also be pretty cheap depending on the size of your windows and the place where you get them.
0 Likes   November 23, 2012 at 7:12AM
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bunkiee
My local Cosco has a Hunter Douglas sales booth! May be worth checking out.
1 Like   November 24, 2012 at 9:32AM
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Vivien Pace
Congratulations on your new home. It's a lovely kitchen. I also like the matchstick blind look. Thy're pretty inexpensive. What ever you select, remember it has to be wasable.
What is outside these windows? I would definately consider planting something that would provide seasonal natural shade. If you plant soon, you won't believe how fast things grow! You'll be glad you did it first.
0 Likes   November 24, 2012 at 10:01AM
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JAN MOYER
Paint out wood trim on casings to match cabinets!!! add a woven shade, with or without a privacy liner. You can do ONE shade on an outside mount
0 Likes   November 24, 2012 at 11:07AM
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ccwatters
We have a similar issue in our cottage with sun. Went with top down bottom up blinds, no strings hanging out. Priced them out at a dozen places, but went with really inexpensive ones at JCP.com. Just a thought if budget is really tight. We built the cottage, so once window treatments came along, I went inexpensive as I had 25-30 windows to fit with treatments. Have not been disappointed yet, but actually only used them for 3 straight months this last summer...so may still discover "you get what you pay for"....but maybe not :) Regardless of where to get them, I love that I can keep the top open to let in a little light during that heavy afternoon sun, yet protect the floors because the bottoms are down.

I do have two architectual awnings over two of my south-facing windows, and it does cut down on the sunlight. It was more expensive, however, than window treatments.

Another solution altogether may be to go with a floor product that is fade resistent if you are going to refinish your floors (think that is what I understamd). One I have been researching lately (haven't even tried it yet, but have seen it on Houzz and want to use it on our floors at home) is Rubio Monocoat. 35 different colors, fade restent, and no poly. Sounds crazy, but it is an oil, and leaves a matte finish, which I love. Biggest perk is, that if there is a scratch, you can sand and refinish JUST the scratch without being able to tell (no overlap of product). Anyhow, I remember seeing it is fade resistent....may be something to look into.
Here is a link, and posting Houzz photos as well
http://www.rubiomonocoat.com/en/colours.php


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0 Likes   November 24, 2012 at 11:07AM
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anitajoyce
Blinds or shades would work well for the kitchen windows.
0 Likes   November 24, 2012 at 11:09AM
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oxybird
Blinds !!!!
Also sorry about your floor. Highly recommend OSMO wood floor oil, its the Best!
0 Likes   November 25, 2012 at 3:55AM
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olldroo
While I love shutters, definitely not in the kitchen to attract greasy dust that is extremely difficult to clean. Can you get a double roller blind, the top side is a mesh for privacy, the back blind is a black mesh that blocks out sun and heat. I am getting one for my kitchen that faces east and the morning sun is not only hot in summer but quite blinding too.
0 Likes   November 25, 2012 at 4:14AM
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74frank
We have hunter Douglas Duality shades in our bedroom very expensive but nice. Two shades in one, room darkening and light filtering. They come with a lifetime guarantee but be aware that when the pull strings break, the rep comes to take them and do not hold your breath waiting to get them back.
They take their good old time . We have been without ours several times and have waited for them to be returned six to eight weeks. Before that, you sit with broken shades for weeks before the are picked up. I am not suggesting you buy the type of shades we have. The point being that we have not been happy with Hunter Douglas for timeliness in the repair of their product.
0 Likes   November 25, 2012 at 4:52AM
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Creative Blinds & Decor
Hello and congratulations on your new home!
One thing to consider is- do you need privacy in the evenings?
I would recommend a ceramic based window film, such as Huper Optik. You would have 99 % UV protection for your wood floors and heat reduction as needed- depending on the intensity of the film, and your view would not be darkened.
The overall "look" is important as well as budget, and being a bay with crank handles I would not use blinds as the projection of the blinds, cords, etc. will detract from the esthetic of the bay design . Have you considered one shade, such as a roller shade mounted on the outside on or above the trim? You would have one cord only( or motorize), they can be cleaned as they are of a vinyl, and can be selected for the amount of light you want to filter through, raise and lower easily as needed and rolls up into a slim cassette, or leave it simply as the roll ( more contemporary), and a vast selection of styles are available.
0 Likes   November 25, 2012 at 6:38AM
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lgjeltema
I have cordless Levelor in my kitchen from Lowes. At almost 3 yrs needed restrung. Lowes sent them back to the mfr. with no charge to us they were restrung and the cords reward teed for another 3 years. Sometimes the initial investment upfront is worth it. We have blackout lined woven woods and they look great in the kitchen. Control southern facing sun exposure With a baby, be careful of corded products. They can be a safety issue and the bay. Could be a climbing spot.
1 Like   November 25, 2012 at 7:05AM
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Shades IN Place
A screen / roller shade covering all four windows would look great and not choppy . They are not expensive!!
0 Likes   November 25, 2012 at 7:13AM
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kingslane
I love the look and feel of shutters..very clean, contemporary and you can manage the light stream..
0 Likes   November 25, 2012 at 7:42AM
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dholpainen
Solar roller shades would be perfect. They come in many different fabric choices and you can see through them even though they only allow 10% UV light through them. Hang samples on your windows to determine which fabric works best.
0 Likes   November 25, 2012 at 8:10AM
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Paint Creek
2" wood blinds in the same color as the window frame will make the kitchen look bigger. Blinds will provide the feeling of organization and cleanliness to the room which is often needed in a kitchen. Or paint the window frames white and go with white blinds for more light and balance to the room.
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Paint Creek
2" wood blinds in the same color as the window frame will make the kitchen look bigger. Blinds will provide the feeling of organization and cleanliness to the room which is often needed in a kitchen. Or paint the window frames white and go with white blinds for more light and balance to the room.
0 Likes   November 25, 2012 at 1:12PM
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4402
Roman shades or balloon shades.
The middle two windows as one and each side window separate.
Use a washable fabric or sheer or puckered fabric. Expensive to have made but not too hard to make yourself with instructions.
You could hang all the way up to ceiling if you want or four inches above.

Vicky
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Curtain Design
I would be looking at retaining the light with a sunfilter roller blind. Thats only if privacy isn't an issue as this won't provide that at night. This will help with the fading issues as a sunfilter roller will block out 90% of the harmful UV rays.

I always advise customers to stay away from fabrics in the kitchen as this is an area that can get wet/dirty. A blind inside the window frame is a much better idea.

I think a number of the suggestions above are also great.
1 Like   November 25, 2012 at 2:46PM
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vickiedavis
You could make a board mounted window treatment just to dress , soften and add a little color to the windows and then mount your blinds to this board if you are interested in something like this it is something most anyone could do themselves. I do a lot of board mounted treatments and they go with almost any style. A simple box pleat looks great , use a 1 x 6 board and attach to the wall with L brackets. Vickie with Vickie's designs
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vickiedavis
You could make a board mounted window treatment just to dress , soften and add a little color to the windows and then mount your blinds to this board if you are interested in something like this it is something most anyone could do themselves. I do a lot of board mounted treatments and they go with almost any style. A simple box pleat looks great , use a 1 x 6 board and attach to the wall with L brackets. Vickie with Vickie's designs
0 Likes   November 25, 2012 at 2:51PM
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mugsy1703
Sun screen roller shades would work well here. Hunter Douglas makes a good product as some have suggested. I would NOT do fabric curtains panels ... too close to the stove so they will just get greasy and dusty. Any other FIXED fabric curtain or valance would not be very practical either. I would paint out the wood trim to match the cupboards. And whoever suggested the balloon shade ... REALLY? In 2012?
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Lucia Feltner
If you were my client, I would strongly suggest to go with a Hunter Douglas shade and add a custom valance as a top treatment.
0 Likes   November 25, 2012 at 9:02PM
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4402
Yes mounting the treatment on a covered board is good but I still suggest for a very functional use the left and right window should be separate. The middle two as one shade since they are stationary and do not open.. I also like the awning idea too. The shade could add interest to the room though if the right fabric is used.
Vicky C.
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4402
Just want to add with 54" fabric (not knowing exact measure ). The middle drapery will take approx 21/2 to 3 yards and the two sides the same split Equalling 5 to 6 yards. All total.
You could also use a sheet. Get a how to book and have fun - save money
Vicky C
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4402
Ps my last name is not Davis
Vicky C
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4402
Ps my last name is not Davis. Vickie Davis Knows what she is doing and we are agreeing fabric would add interest and softening , the room is hard.
Vicky C
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greenthumb2
I still think curtains are do-able. you can put them up in 5 minutes and take them down is 2 minutes. washable, replaceable, affordable.

A decent set of blinds will cost you over $200.00 for this window. your curtains and rods will be less than 1/2 the price. save up for the blinds you like and then splurge on natural wood - not plastic, fabric, or aluminum.... :=)
0 Likes   November 25, 2012 at 10:27PM
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ritamaru
Hang one wide bamboo shade on outside from the edge of the eaves. It's inexpensive but block sun light to protects your floor and keep the temperature down. When you are home you can leave the window wide open to ventilate. Key is to hang it at least 8” away from the window for better air circulations. Also, provides privacy. When it gets dirty, horse it off or simply replace it. Hanging any kind of blinds in kitchen is a cleaning nightmare. Looks like you have a baby too. You wouldn't have time to wipe blades one at the time.
Attached are pics of our western exposure front porch. During the summer, our porch gets direct sun for about 8 to 9 hours. Our living room, on the other side of the large window, gets so hot in the afternoon to evening. We have to hang it from the rafter because the house doesn’t have the eaves. (Don’t ask me why, we didn’t build it. We gave the face lift with new porch and new siding.) The blind is actually an indoor blinds that we use for outdoor. We use it only summer time and take it in when it's raining. It was the best $40 we spent on the issue.
0 Likes   November 26, 2012 at 4:37AM
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sparklefarkle
solar screens on the outside....nothing, or something simple like roman shades on the inside
0 Likes   November 26, 2012 at 11:36AM
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World Class Supply
I would second the recommendation for OSMO. Add some pigment to help with the fading. No matter what anyone says, transparent titanium dioxide used in clear finish will not protect from the sun as well as earth pigments.
0 Likes   January 9, 2013 at 7:32AM
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Creative Blinds & Decor
Id love to hear what the original person who posted the design dilemma decided!
1 Like   January 9, 2013 at 12:20PM
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Blinds Direct Canada
I would definitely recommend going with a Shutter .I sell shutters that would match your existing window frames that would look absolutely amazing!!
http://www.blindsdirectcanada.com/shutters-toronto.html
0 Likes   January 9, 2013 at 1:55PM
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rluchinski
How about stained glass panels hung in front of the window glass.... would have a beautiful bright, colourful effect!
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Barbara Hyde Evans
Besides window treatments, you should paint the trim white to match the cabins. You end up with a prettier much more cohesive look.
0 Likes   August 5, 2013 at 1:51PM
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leelee
I was just going to say paint the windows white when I glanced up to barbarahydeevans remark. I don't know why that hasn't been done already. Then, do white wood blinds!
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