Make my room more impressive
Hi this is our library / tv room. do you have ideas re how to "finish" this room so it looks well designed and put together. it's already very comfortable and cosy but has a lot of stuff! how best to manage all that stuff? I am considering taking some of the books down and getting rid of them and displaying the pieces instead of both..
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You are right that there is too much stuff in the room, but books are not the problem. The furniture is not 'right' for the room, but with some tweeks it can work...unless you are in the market to buy new furniture. ;-)
Start by removing all the polka dotted items and the striped pillow and the red throw. Next take out the red rug and the small white table as well as the white picture frame above it. The white desk needs to goas well...but will be brought back in.
You would be wise to remove everything from the shelves and might even consider painting the backs of them a contrasting color. Personally I think a sagey green would be the perfect color for this room.
Ok...so once all that is taken care of post some more pictures adn we'll start putting it all back together again. :-)
I would look for good, stretchable solid color covers for all your patterned furniture. That will calm the room down immediately. Or replace them if budget allows, they are large and overstuffed and they do take up a lot of valuable real estate.
For the bookcases, definitely pare them down. Since you have so many, perhaps some of the shelves could hold only one or two items.
I would also try to find a new home for the tv. You could try above the mantel, or, maybe you could remove one or two shelves and tuck it into the bookcase?
Also take down the curtains.
I know red is probably your favorite color, but it overwhelms this room. Red is the perfect accent for green though...so that is the angle I would like to see you take.
I have to go work for a while, there are dogs to be walked and cats to be fed. I will pop in when I return this afternoon. :-)
Think of the books in terms of blocks of colour and the shelves as frames as that's how you see them from across the room. Have some stacks of books lying down and some spaces for your photos and other bits but try not to put things in front of books as this looks messy. If the shelves are a lot deeper than the books pull the books to the front of the shelf so they are not looking sad and lost at the back. Try a shelf with about 2/3 books and then a photo or ornament in the rest of the space - this draws attention to a nice item.
Hope this makes sense and helps. You have been so busy with your home and it's looking good.
Janishill - I took out the rug, the small white table and it's contents, and everything off the shelves and fireplace.I took out all the pillows and throws. I haven't taken down the curtains (yet) but I won't be replacing them (as they were expensive and I can't afford new ones right now)so is there a need to take them down?
Right behind the couch is an electric piano. I am considering relocating this to another room and pushing the sofa back there next to the built ins?
Think also about the visual weight of the displays and keep heavier displays to the lower shelves or it can look as if the top shelves are going to topple down which is not such a relaxing effect.
when I have a project to do, I want to just do it, no delay, take action and make it happen!.
So I've been working on the advice and comments, here's an updated shot of progress... what do you think - it's better, but still too much?
Good luck!
Every shelf does not have to have books on it, nor does every shelf have to have a decorative item on it. When you arrange them try to put tall books on the bottom shelf, medium books on the middle shelves and sorter books on the top. This helps keep the visula weight balanced.
What I would do is take all the books off the shelves and line them up on the floor by height. Then fill the bottom shelf of the second row and the bottom shelf of the 4th row.
Then move up one and over one. On that shelf I'd put my next layer of books. I would turn them on their side and stacked them like a short pyramid about 5 books tall. Then I would push them against the left wall of the shelf so the tops of all the books touch. They are no longer a pyramid. Just a nice stack. . I would skip a space and do the same thing except I would push these books to the right.
On the top directly above the books that go all the way across I would put short books. Just a few standing upright and moved to the side. Then I would put something decorative (a short clock?) and put a few more books standing upright on the other side.
If you do all that then post more pictures and we will go from there. :-)
decoenthusiaste hit on the drapes, but I have a slightly different take. I would like to see them on one rod with the two center drapes hung so they touch each other and without tie backs so all the panels are hanging straight down. It should look like there is only one large window instead of two smaller ones. (see photo for example)
Agree that those DVDs still need some help. Let's face it: those just aren't attractive! How about finding a few great baskets to hold them? Head to Michael's, etc with a dvd in hand for sizing, and just hide them! That will help add visual weight to the lower shelves.
I would also hit thrift stores and purchase some large leather bound books and a few more large impact items.
I think the book cases are looking good. At the start it seemed to lack intent and now the placement of things is seemingly more orderly. Keep it up!!
Pair down a bit. Maybe remove some books-Intermingle your objects with the books on the shelves
Move the tv to the mantel....the opposite wall, enlarge those picture frames
anyways...It is a very nice room. Think and it seems as does others, just a few tweaks with the items in it. The room will be super-good luck :)
The only thing I don't agree with is the suggestion that you buy more things to add, even if it is only for impact, you will get impact from what you already have once you have tweaked them right.
bamamom - of course DVD's have to be kept in alphabetical order - the only ones I hate are those with more than one movie.
I removed the rug, it makes the space cleaner and larger, although I miss it for comfort, colour, texture. I have the same rug in green Janishill, do you think I should try it here?
Looking forward to thoughts on next steps!
I think the green rug would be perfect. Try it and see.
The shelves are better, but they are not there yet. The books should start with the tallest and slope down.
I have to go walk dogs and feed cats. I will check in this afternoon and we can go shelf by shelf if you would like too.
Janis
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I agree with your concerns about the shelves to the left of the fireplace. The vases are very symmetrical yet the main symmetry on this wall is around the fireplace so I think there is a conflict there and your eyes don't know where to rest. My personal preference for this wall is to fill the shelves with large books so that it gives a less decorative effect and doesn't distract from either the TV or the fire whichever you are watching. Do you have more shelves that can go in there as the spaces are very tall, or can your useful husband make some (once he's finished the vanity unit for your bathroom)?
I'm not normally a fan of TVs over the fireplace but in this case I think it would look good if you can make it work with all the cables and stuff. If this doesn't work can it go where the piano is? Then you could put the sofa along in front of the windows and the chair in the corner beside the fireplace. I don't know if this would fit as I'm trying to visualise your floor plan by piecing together the various pictures.
I think the mirror is too wide for the fireplace - would it work in your bathroom as the one in there could be bigger? If you don't put the TV there then a round mirror with a metallic frame would look better over the fireplace. It would pick up on the shape and colour of the fire and firescreen and on the pattern in your upholstery and be a nice change from the rectangular wood of all the bookcases.
I really like your curtains without the tiebacks.
I would love to relocate the tv to where the piano is but not sure i can with wiring etc.
I am waiting on those shelves a looong time but yes it would really help.
I do like the vases on the hearth. I would also like to see a few colourful cushions (not patterned) to link the sofa and curtains.
On the bottom shelf, where the smallest picture with the four photos is: try the large wedding photo that is currently on shelf next to FP. Still think the bottom shelf needs the weight it will provide.
Amazing how much work it takes to achieve that "Oh, I didn't try very hard" sort of look!
PS: Great point above about the mirror reflecting stuff. An oil painting of a restful scene would be a good replacement.
If you are not interested in painting the bookcases, measure those back sections and put up some foam core (covered with colored fabric) or with offwhite to give a reflective surface for your accessories and books. The reason why the room is close but still needs a little work, is only because it has no reflective or contrasting color behind your books and accessories.. (could look great with any of your favorite colors already going on in the room) Might want to do it just on the long wall.
Start with one section and see if you like it. If you are worn out fro doing all the other re-arranging, it's OK. Keep this in your back pocket and try it another time during the year when the weather isn't cooperating. :=)
Also, the pictures send in to you here have: exactly evenly spaced shelves or combinations of varying heights. just an observation. Great project. And I can appreciate all the work moving stuff around. Books are very heavy.
Great job. It takes some practice and we've all learned that way.
When you begin putting items back put ONLY books to begin with. Arrange them by putting tall books on the bottom shelf, medium books on the middle shelves and short books on the top. Put books on one shelf, skip the next shelf. Every shelf does not have to have books on it, nor does every shelf have to have a decorative item on it.
Put the tallest books back where you have them...but put only books on that shelf. The tall white thing would work better to the left of the fireplace. It would look perfect sitting atop a stack of books that is about half as tall as it is! Oh...they need to be the big books.
When you are putting a group of anything, say pictures, use an od number - 3, 5, 7. It is more visually pleasing.
Mary....Don't do anything else for a few days. I just went through a family room rearrange and wore myself out working and worrying about it. I finally said stop, leave it alone for a week or so and then take a look at it and see what I did not like and wanted to redo. When I did that, it really helped and I kept looking at my ideabooks and magazine pages I had saved and knew exactly what I wanted. I still have a few small things to do so the room is complete (accessories) but I'm very happy with it.
PLEASE google the blogs I mentioned above "emilyaclark" and "thriftydecorchick", they have both recently done tutorials on bookcase/shelve styling. They gave awesome pictures to show how to start with the bigger pieces and work down to the smaller pieces to fill in gaps. It always helps me to see something like that and get an idea of how to, then proceed on my own with what I have.
And, follow your instincts...you will know when you have everything the way you want it.
Now, rest and enjoy your family today, clear your head a few days or week(s); it's not going the shelves are not going anywhere and give yourself some time to think and absorb the ideas and suggestions.
Vanessa
Thanks to all for great ideas and support. Appreciate it.
Now for the shelf that has the tall books on it. Remove the decorative item and finish filling that shelf with books all the way across. Then move to the right 2 rows over. This should be the last row of shelves. Do the same thing....a row of your tallest books all the way across. This will be a foundation for everything else.
Now go to the last row. The one by the organ and do the same thing. Tall books all the way across.
When you are finished with that we will go to the spaces between them. :-)
You have made some very positive changes already. I agree with Janishill's most recent suggestions about the shelves.
As for the tv and the cables I found these ideas on pinterest that might be helpful for you.
http://www.houseofhepworths.com/2012/01/10/mounting-your-tv-to-the-wall-and-hiding-all-the-cords/
http://inmyownstyle.com/2012/09/how-to-hide-the-cords-on-a-flat-screen-tv.html
http://www.sawdustandpaperscraps.com/2011/02/28/how-to-hide-tv-cords-in-trim-work-guest-post/
Oh...and that brown rug...it might work in the play room!
Can't wait to see it when you have move the picture and worked on those 3 bottom shelves!
The shelves are really starting to come together! On the 3rd shelf over (the one with your wedding picture) move the picture over toward the righ and turn it slightly inward toward the books. The tall wicker heart would go to th eleft of it. If you have a short potted plant it would look nice between them and slightly toward teh front so the 3 items form a loose triangle.
Can you put the organ in the playroom? If not maybe it could go under the painting on the far wall of the living room.
Here is what I was thinking for the TV room: put the desk where the organ was then put the loveseat where the the sofa was. The red chair would flank the fireplace on the left slightly out and angled toward the loveseat.
Hope to move some furtniture and mirrors / pictures later today.
This weekend, I'll be shopping for some short plants, a tray for sitting room coffee table, green runner for kitchen table, and baskets for the playroom project!
I have to admit that I liked the way the shelves looked with more books and less photos. There are quite a number. It's always a dilemma as to where to put them (as you get older, you collect more. There's only so much wall!). I know you like your frames, but consider reframing several of the same size and wall-hanging elsewhere or putting in albums. You have a collection of photos on the one "blank wall." Perhaps you can expand on that, but with somewhat stronger framing or they'll just "disappear." I'd like to see more objects d'arte and a few more plants (not many) in their place.
Most mantels are too high for comfortable TV viewing. THe FP is the room's focus, so you have a dilemma. Also, whenever I'm on my computer, I like to be able to see the TV without moving. Despite the fact that the sun may fade the furniture, will the sofa fit in front of the windows? The Computer table could then perform 2 functions in being an end-table to the sofa as well. And the TV could be put on a table in front of the long wall with the components in the lower cabinets. Unless you're willing to get a carpenter to make a niche in the shelving for that TV, there's no perfect solution. Have you considered removing it altogether? Do you watch a lot of TV in this room?
I agree with a post that suggested getting rid of at least one ottoman in favor of a coffee table. Keep the ottoman in front of the chair. I'd have preferred to see a solid colored chair rather than matchy-matchy, perhaps a red wingback. I liked the red rug better, but neither rug is big enough. The rooms needs a big rug that goes under at least the front legs of all the seating, but gray (that is a gray sofa, right? It has a slightly plum color on my monitor.)
This has been one of the few posts where progressive photos have been posted, and this was fun. Although I'm not formally trained, all the women in my family are decorators for 3 generations (it has to be a genetic thing!), so we all breathe design/color/function/visuals. YOu're doing great! I admire your stamina.
Inkwitch, thanks for the comments. The bottom shelf IS taller, and hard to fill! I've run out of large books now. I am happy to have pared back the books because now I only have those books that I really like.
Re the photos, I may pare back one or two more, I have so many more in those cabinets - like you say, it's time to put them in an album of favourite shots!
The pictures over the piano are musical posters and actually my daugher's. I'm going to remove them. Not sure what, if anything to put there. I'd quite like to mount the TV there, but not sure the wiring will work.
Re the furniture, I'm thinking of taking Janis's advise of putting the cream sofa and red chair in here (from this room http://www.houzz.com/discussions/247064) and moving the sectional to the playroom. My only hesitation is my kids and I love that sofa for watching Tv and this room is where we do that. But colour and style wise, it would work better in the playroom. (here http://www.houzz.com/discussions/251603)
Thanks re the rug, I think a bigger rug would work. Janis, if I put the cream and red furniture in here, what colour rug would you recommend? The drapes are cream and wine. (which is why I put the curnent rug in here)
Finally, re stamina - I am really hoping to get through the playroom refresh this weekend and just relax next week and enjoy it! Any thoughts on that room re toys, do you think I should invest in some co-ordinated boxes or baskets to hold the various objects?
Thanks All, happy weekend!
Moving the television to the area above the organ is a terrific idea...but it would be difficult to decide if the fireplace or the TV should be the focal point.
A rug similiar to this would be beautiful: http://www.potterybarn.com/products/adeline-rug-multi/?pkey=crugs-by-style&cm_src=rugs-by-style||NoFacet-_-NoFacet-_--_-
or this: http://www.potterybarn.com/products/brant-rug/?pkey=crugs-by-style&cm_src=rugs-by-style||NoFacet-_-NoFacet-_--_-
or if you prefer: http://www.potterybarn.com/products/bird-floral-rug/?pkey=crugs-by-style&cm_src=rugs-by-style||NoFacet-_-NoFacet-_--_-
Janis, I love the floral bird rug - really nice.
Some updated shelf pics FYI
Now let's go one shelf at a time. We are going to start with the first bottom shelf where you have 4 pictures. Are these 4 different children? Anyway...please move those pictures to the shelf above the next shlf over. In other words above the shelf that is full of books - 1 over & 1 up.
Put the lovely white urn where teh pictures are now.
When you have that done, we will move on.
A rug similiar to the one with th ebirds would be perfect for your room.
Have to go walk a pup, but I will be back in a little while. :-)
The 2 pictures on the left need to be angled toward the center then the 2 on the right need to be angled toward the center as well.
Janis, I have moved the basket with heart and it looks good with the 4 pictures, that and moving the wedding picture and clock around have made a difference already.
Stacy, thanks also, I would love to paint everything in the cream colour, (although I'm not fond of the aqua colours) it's just a huge task and I would want to hire someone to do that. Would the bookcases need to be sanded, primed, etc and what paint type would work best? I'm not sure if I will make that leap, but would like to.
I'm trying hard to declutter, it's been a journey!
Thanks
you have received some awesome advice here and made great progress, good on you!
re the lots of pictures you have maybe Jan would comment on creating a cluster of photos on a wall, its a great way to make a big space out of a lot of small things, it takes a practiced eye much like the book cases, im sure she would rock at it.
good luck im keen to see green or red? as well as get the rug size up so its a connecter of the furniture to the space
cheers adrian
ps please keep posting photos of your progress
One the shelf with the 3 candles (top shelf above your wedding picture) the white picture frame is too tall. Remove it..then turn the tallest book on its side, sit the wooden box on top and put them right in the center of where the box and the frame are sitting now.
Then I need to see pictures of all the shelves to give you some other ideas.
Great work and advice, and Mary good on you for listening
It all looks fantastic, I just went over the photos and it was a big effort by you both
Cheers Adrian
Please remove the basket from between the pictures of your children and put the tallest white candle there. Use the shorest candle to keep the stack of books in place. The middle candle can be used on another shelf.
I think you are getting the hang of this. You can do it! What you are looking for is the height of the items. A way to remember what goes where: Big on Bottom, Medium in Middle.
First, I am not a fan of gobs of woodwork, but in this case, I would take a less permanent view and not rush to paint the built ins. I like the suggestion of inserts behind the shelves, particularly on the long wall. I am divided on the inserts being slightly darker brown , or somewhat lighter. Darker would be more backdrop and progressive in tone, lighter would be more picture frame mat looking. If it were me, I would experiment. This option would allow updating in the future more easily.
Second, I think the TV right of the fireplace would be more comfortable. It would look too low if it sat on the mantle, and would be too high for comfortable viewing mounted where it looked good. I would suggest mounting a piece of plywood on the verticals in the area where it is at and using a swivel wall mount for the tv to allow adjustment when viewing. Then drill a hole to run the cables through the back of the cabinet. I would also raise the TV about 12".
Finally, with the narrowness of the openings left of the fireplace, I wonder if hanging the pictures on the backs, raising them up might look better.
I can't wait to see a picture with the mirror gone from the fireplace! If not for the reflectivity, I like the scale of it on the opposite wall.
Curious to hear the thoughts of others on these ideas. Regardless, you are making awesome progress!
Thnks for the great inputs Closet experts, very intersting idea re the TV and also hanging the pictures on left of fireplace.
your room seems very lovely and functional. I recommend not removing any books, just group them by topics and then add your favorite piece of art next to each. Also clear away the middle of the built in and move the TV in that spot, and just add a door so you can close off the TV when not in use. where the TV is right now add a piece of the sectional for a warm reading nook. Is that an empty space above the built in? Use it to display small pieces of sculpture. If you have the room, try using the desk behind the sofa, making sure it's facing the TV and fireplace so you can multitask- while still hiding the computer wires from view. Keep me posted.
Here's a current shot of the shelves. Hope it's getting better, not worse!
After looking at all of your pictures, and all the suggestions, I'm going to add my thoughts on your room.
First, I'd put the couch under the windows. Leave the piano where it is, and maybe put the mirror over it. You need a few large items, and the mirror fills that need.
The TV can then be placed, (as was suggested) in front of your long bookcase. The armchair can go in either corner. I like by the fireplace. I like the idea of the little table as an end-table.
Can you paint the fireplace? I can't tell if it's wood. Right now it's sticking out like the proverbially sore thumb. Just a few more tweaks on the bookcases, put the red rug back in, and I think it will start coming around. I know this is work, but the pleasure you'll have when it's done, will be worth it!
I learn long ago that objects need to be married to each other or relate . Biggest mistake most people make is hanging pictures too high, same with tvs. You have too many activities going on in one small
Room. I would move the desk. Or piano to another room. Maybe both.
The room needs a tall palm tree to soften the room, either behind the sofa or in the corner to the right
Of the fireplace . You could rearrange the furniture so you could put the plant where you have the desk , then put the chair across the room.
Small green silk plants on the shelfs would help with the arrangement
If you decide to keep the desk in the room you may consider painting it as the white is too stand out. A soft green would perhaps be a good choice.
This room should not have a mirror as it reflects and makes everything busier. Not every wall needs
To have something -- less is best.
Define the room -- media, library Where you can curl up to read or watch tv , maybe use the computor. Not music!
Vicky
Do you have any decorative plates?
And I liked the clock with the wedding picture and the other thing (wedding lowers?) better.
As for your other comment; it WAS rude and uncalled for. Not to be harsh, but not everyone lives in the US. Just so you know and hopefully can comprehend.
This is an open forum.
It is not your place to moderate others comments based on YOUR opinion.
Best regards
The challenge is that I am working with what I have and a limited budget. In fact, it's not a bad situation, and I hope, not like a charity store as suggested - I don't think I would suggest that any home enthusiast has failed so badly to resemble a charity store!
In any event, I truly do appreciate the thoughts, suggestions, and support along the journey....many of you have followed the trail from the outset, and I appreciate your committment to helping me find the right balance (esp Janis.)
I'll keep you posted as I make progress, and I appreciate all the inputs and suggestions, thanks again all!
PS I have the same gold lidded square box as you!
I think most of your rooms have been declutered, rearranged and reshuffled and I am certain it feels great to walk in them and see all you have accomplished.
I first saw Folly Green in a Tradional Home magazine and wrote down the name so I could remember it when it came time to repaint. It is a beautiful color; seeming to change with the light.
Mary, I am sorry for the hurtful remarks that have been made on this board. It bothers me that people in this day no longer recognize the difference between constructive criticism and simply being critical. Not only does your TV room reflect the love you have for your family, your other rooms do as well. And there is nothing more important than that.
I hope you will keep posting updates as you work out the furniture arrangements and other little tweaks.
Oh...I had meant to tell you to bring the red rug back in. :-) Especially now with the red on the shelves.
i copied your photos and did a little cut and paste- it's messy, but hopefully gets the main idea across. i'd put your sofa in front of the large book case, chair by the fireplace, tv on the stand on the wall opposite the fireplace - so you can either look at the fire or the tv. Someone suggested using frames of one color for your photos - an inexpensive way to do that would be to spray paint them all a dark color-black goes with everything. Since your shelves are a medium tone wood, display things that are dark or light so that they contrast against the wood. Limiting your display items pallette to a few values usually helps to unify things. (I think that's why so many people want to paint the shelves or put inserts in the back to help your nice things read more clearly...some get lost).
If you want to "splurge" -you may consider having a carpenter make a few solid tall cabinet doors to provide a visual break in the shelving. I'm showing 3 doors - 1 on the right side of the fireplace and 2 on the left to leave two open vertical shelves for display on each side - with things arranged to frame the fireplace as the focal point. To add some height to your big vases, consider stacking some books beneath them.
Enjoy experimenting untill you get something you're happy with - good luck!
Go back to the photo provided by janishill and really look at the arrangement of books etc on the shelves. The best way is to take it all off and build your new look. What can you do without? What can go behind the closet doors? Make 'stories' of the books, by type or by color. Mix the decorative items into all shelves along with the books for more interest. Stack horizontally as well as placing vertically. Definitely add the large pop of color with a big piece of art (maryobkeogh). You can use that mirror in another room. If you want to use the red, get neutral slip covers on the couches and get art with the same red. Best of luck.
Put some on the tallest books at each end of each shelf, then lean a few against them, stack a few. But take just a few away perhaps, so their is a little more breathing room.
You have great taste and style!!
Trust your own instincts.
You have a beautiful family and home!
Well done. Thanks for sharing.