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Sante Fe in need of updating
jickmagger
November 21, 2012 in Design Dilemma
Just purchased 3000sq foot Sante Fe. Limited budget. Outside is fine but inside is dated. Don't judge a book by its cover the is house has a wonderful feel and setting. Floor seems to be the largest issue. Our thought was to raise the sunken living area to make the house all one level. Either travertine tile throughout the whole 3000 square feet or an engineered wood floor throughout. We could have some cost savings if we use carpet in the 3 bedrooms. We were considering a rougher looking travertine. The floor alone will change the look dramatically. The wall colour is an ivory and was recently painted. We are ok with the colour. I have posted some photos but the whole photo display can be seen here. Password: Sante Fe http://jickmagger.smugmug.com/Other/9683-E-HIDDEN-GREEN-DR-Active/26649752_rgp8Hm/
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Aggie Purvinska
How awesome!! I think keep the sunken living room, but definitely simplify the floor. with either gray ash or oak engeneered planks or wood look tile. Trim and doors could be painted white as well, or you could experiment with dark trim or doors, like almost black or navy.
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b_purkiss
Keep in mind these are all my own opinions based on my personal tastes. This is what I would do:

If you're into hosting parties frequently, I would keep that sunken level. It adds a LOT of very cool seating, like right around the fireplace.

Personally that entire floor tile has to go, those little mosaic tiles are really (in my opinion) dated and cheesy. If you're looking to save a few dollars, I would go with the laminate wood flooring in a dark colour.

The house is in some desperate need of fresh, non-beige paint everywhere. It has awesome walls and features but they all get lost in the drab colours. Even painting some rooms a bright, crisp white would do wonders. The kitchen seems a bit dated, but maybe the beige on brown is what's making it appear that way. It looks like the upstairs tile is in good shape if you were to keep that, but personally I prefer carpet. (or maybe large rugs would solve that problem)

Even a few minor changes like vanities and backsplashes would really update the look and feel of the house.

My .02 worth.
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jickmagger
Thanks Aggie. My wife sees the sunken floors as dating the house so not sure about keeping them. I can see an argument for keeping them. Did you see the kitchen cupboards. Although we will upgrade the counter tops from Corian(I think) do you have a solution for the cupboards themselves? They seem very gold in colour. You can see more pics in my link above. Appreciate your comments, Brian
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jickmagger
b_purkiss.
Thanks for your comments. I think there will be two camps with regards to the sunken room versus raising it all to one level. The sunken could be a "cool" factor as you say. We will definitely be changing the floor. I don't think I made myself clear and have edited my initial post. Thanks, Brian
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Keerthi Naidu
I think the space would look great either way - whether you kept the sunken floors or made it all one level, it really depends on how open you want the room to feel. I also really like the idea of travertine tile throughout the house. It will fit the style of your home really well!
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Aggie Purvinska
I don't think this is a classic sunken floor in that dated sense, Once you change the tile, it will not look dated.

The kitchen is a good candidate for painting, and could sport anything from white to black, including medium grays. Would it be possible to do Calcutta Gold (White marble) tops instead. I think that would add some sophistication, and I would go with a medium gray on the cabinets with Polished Chrome Hardware..

I work with corian , and I find it annoying for the price that it is it is way overpriced and not very practical.

I think as a color scheme you could do subtle grays with blues and greens.. and some darker Navy or almost black, up to you.

Appliances can stay black or changes to Stainless, Backsplash can be same Calcutta Gold..

[houzz=Dayton Door | Painted Harbor Finish | nish | CliCliqStudios.com Kitchen Cabinets]

[houzz=Calacatta Oro]

[houzz=Belcastel Centers Forged Look Flat Bottom Pull, Polished Nickel]

[houzz=Natural Ash Wood Flooring]
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paulaisit
Okay here goes...yet another idea from out in left field.....
!) I would raise the floor!
2)Then get rid of all the half walls and raise up to make full walls.
3)Then get rid of the built in bench.
All this leads to simplify, simplify, simplify.
You have a nice sized home and it doesn't need to show too much at once.
Tone down the walls with a softer color, a more southwest color.
The purpose is to make the home inviting ...this home is too busy before you put anything into it.
I hope I haven't spoken to frankly but there is too much to look at in a distracting way.
Went to Lowes site....Bedrosian, Noce, travertine 12"x12" tiles in a medium brown throughout would help to calm down in the southwest style...
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pivoines
I agree with your wife about eliminating the sunken living room, it will definitely update the look. I think that travertine tiles would look amazing throughout the whole house. As for the kitchen cabinets, I would get them stained darker and keep the white corian, update the faucets, paint the door like the rest of the room, I would get black inserts for the fridge to match the other appliances.Stain the blades of the fans darker or paint them the same white as the ceiling. That is an amazing house, I envy you, good luck
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nevadan
There's a type of quarry tile in wide use in Santa Fe that would look good here. You want dark reddish floring, low-gloss, each tile is a bit curved. Keep it casual. This is not a formal house. I think it's lovely. Who was the architect? Can you go back to him/her for help - before you ruin everything?
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nevadan
There's a type of quarry tile in wide use in Santa Fe that would look good here. You want dark reddish floring, low-gloss, each tile is a bit curved. Keep it casual. This is not a formal house. I think it's lovely. Who was the architect? Can you go back to him/her for help - before you ruin everything?
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jickmagger
Thanks for all the comments. As some have said the house has good bones and a great setting. There is a wide variety of opinions here but that is to be expected on a forum of this type. Staining the cupboards could be costly and will pose a big dilemma as the cupboards need removed and sanded. I have concern over painting them as I worry this could look cheap but may be a solution. I do like the colour Aggie chose above. As for the appliances we may purchase new. We agree with Pivoines that the fans can all be painted.
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jickmagger
Nevadan. Thanks for the comments. Not sure why you think we are going to ruin everything? Maybe you didn't mean it that way. We are gathering ideas and may even use a designer familiar with the style. Even if it is a limited amount of time with the designer it could pay off. I am not sure who the architect was but many of these homes in this neighbourhood were built by Tom LaBlonde. From what i gather a reputable builder.
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apple_pie_order
The house is gorgeous. Filling in the sunken part is a great idea. Too many people trip on this kind of step down.

I'd get a designer for sure.

The wood cabinets have a nice grain and sleek appearance as they are. If they look a bit too gold, that will be toned down with new countertops. You can also check that the light bulbs are not some extra-orange fluorescents- they look pretty orange in the photos.
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World Class Tiles
Scabos travertine would be my choice. Check out this link.
http://anatoliatile.com/scabos_travertine.html

or something a little bit more carmel Picasso
http://anatoliatile.com/picasso_fandh.html
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COMPLEMENTS LLC
I agree with your wife. Raise the floor. If you have or plan to retire in this home it will be safer for you in years to come.
I would use an enginered wood for easy maintanence. Find one that compliments the wood trim and doors a mid tone brown, dark floors show all the dust.
In the living room consider redoing the Fireplace. At least paint. The current color does not relate to anything around it.
I wouldn't advise spending $ on the kitchen until you can redo the whole thing. You may rethink the layout after you have lived in it a while.
Don't try to do everything at once on a limited budget. Do the best you can one space at a time. You will be much happier in the long run.
Good Luck. Your house has great bones and fantastic outdoor space. Enjoy!
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vernarie
Is this the house of Hank and Marie Shraeder?
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jickmagger
Not at this time but I suppose it is possible they were the original owners. I would be the 3rd owner and did not buy it from the Shraeders. Why do you ask?
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jamidelynn
I love the suggestions from AggieDesigns!! I wouldn't touch the bones of this house! I've painted many, many kitchen cabinets...it is not that hard, very affordable, and if done right, will not look cheap. However, Corian countertops do look cheap to me and lack character. Black doors and trim would add a richness to the light and open spaces. What a great house! Good luck!
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nap_sd
I love the sunken living room; the concept is not at all dated and it adds a bit of height to the room. Stained hardwood throughout, neutral painted cabinets and a lovely marble or soapstone on the counters, not a busy granite. Get rid of the benches, change the front door or add a wrought iron element for drama. If feasible, it would be great to swap the kitchen sink and cooktop so that you could make the cooking area in the island with a hood above - highlight the cooking process not the lean-up in that more "public" location. I know that it's more expensive but would be weel worth it.
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Rose Construction, Inc.
Many of the comments are excellent, I don't see any need to add to them. Although, I happen to like the floor the way it is! Tastes differ though, so go ahead and change it, if money is not object, I'm sure what you choose to do will be great.
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Aja Mazin
''Santa fe style great room home on private and quiet premium north facing lot backing naos with pinnacle peak views. Two master split suites with private wrap around patios to resort pool, spa, built-in bbq backyard and kiva fireplace. Award winning monument golf course subdivision in the heart of troon north . Professional desert landscape with huge saguaro cactus. 2920sf with large open 3-car garage. Great curb appeal and all buyers will love the split open great room with private pinnacle peak view backyard.''
http://www.azmoves.com/property/details/1313822/MLS-4850374/9683-E-Hidden-Green-Drive-Scottsdale-AZ-85262.aspx?RegionID=0&StateID=4
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paulaisit
So Aja Mazin, you used this column to advertise a house for sale.....bad form....
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Aja Mazin
paulaisit,

It's not my home.

It seems jickmagger is having a bit of ''fun'' with Houzz.
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paulaisit
Statement still stands.....sounds like an advertisement....call me all the names you choose....still bad form on your part.
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Aja Mazin
I notified the realtor and Houzz.

Houzz will decide.
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Aggie Purvinska
Aja, do you mean the house is still on the market?
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Aja Mazin
YES,

It was only listed on the 15th of this month,
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Aggie Purvinska
Could it be the paperwork hasn't been filed? I hope this isn't true...
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jickmagger
Settle down folks. When you speak to the realtor check the status of the listing. Sold pending inspection which is taking place as we speak. Thanks to all who posted helpful ideas and opinions. Jick
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Aggie Purvinska
LOL, houzz drama
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finowolf
As an AZ realtor, your soft contemporary interior is dated. Travertine tile, granite and rustic Tuscan interiors are all going out of style. Raise the living room. Box out the round columns and get rid of any half wall you can do without. I am a big fan of wood grained tile laid without grout lines. A weathered grey tone would be great. The cabinets are kind of orange, are they worth refinishing to a deeper color. Go for a quartz countertop. Granite is passé and overused. Limit the stone in general, way overused in Scottsdale. Get rid of the drywall boxes next to the fireplace and go for a new cool mantle.
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daniinla
Jick -- what is you or your wife's taste in styles? Do you like super modern, mid century, classic spanish, contemporary, arts & crafts, etc? This is a beautiful space and could be updated to many different looks (OK, not Victorian). And are you planning to resell within the next 5 years or do you want to personalize it more? Do you entertain a lot? Just curious about what kind of space you're trying to create. BTW, from the pictures, I would keep the floor heights -- in a space that big it's more of a "level change" than a "sunken floor" in my book. Good luck with whatever you choose!
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sunrose
I live in Tucson. My advice is to save your pennies and go for the tile or wood. Do not install carpet. Carpet holds lots of dust, and let's face it: If you live in the desert, you're going to have dust. Area rugs add style and color and are much easier to keep clean.
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jickmagger
Sunrose, we tend to agree with you about eliminating any carpet. Originally we thought to save money in these rooms but at the end of the day we will most likely do as you suggested. Thanks for the homegrown input.
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jickmagger
Danlinia, we appreciate many different styles. Our present home would be described as very contemporary and modern. We see this place being fun and less serious. We attended an open house in North Scottsdale and loved Camelot Homes Verandah model home but it was well out of our price range. http://www.newhomesource.com/communitydetail/builder-2769/community-62154This home will primarily used be my wife and I. Kids and friends , in laws all as guests. We like to entertain so outside dining etc is important. Hip and fun place to hang out. Our intent is to live here for a few years and decide if we wish to build our dream home in Scottsdale or will this be sufficient for our needs.

Interesting perspective on the "level change" as opposed to viewing as sunken. I must admit we are more open to leaving the levels as is than we were at first. We originally thought when we viewed this place was to raise the floor.I expect that is because of our contemporary background. At the end of the day we are okay with the rounded and half walls and would like to build around the style that is already there but with an more modern take on the space. I am still hoping we can find an up and coming interior decorator in Scottsdale that is affordable with some ideas that we can hire for some consulting. So far no luck on that front. Appreciate your comments.
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jickmagger
Finowolf, We aren't really planning on changing the adobe/sante fe look so much as trying to update it. I can appreciate your thoughts. We are considering quartz or silestone in place of granite. Your idea of the mantle is one we have also discussed. The problem area is finding a spot for a large TV. Something i need for watching games. The cabinets definitely come off as orange but we are unsure of the fix at this time. Maybe new handles,counter tops and flooring will make them more liveable?
Appreciate your input. Hope your doing well in what appears to be a healthier market.
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Ryan Sullivan
If budget is not an issue then fill it in. The last time I had a sunken living room filled in here in Scottsdale I used Central Valley Specialties. They can pump a lightweight concrete to fill in the sunken area after you've had that ceramic tile removed. Also, remove those pony walls and the bench to make it even more open and updated. 3000 square feet of floor tile, removal and installation is going to run you around $15 per foot. Again, this includes removal of the existing, purchasing a decent travertine (not some junk with holes in it that you can stick your fist through) and installation. Wood laminate will be less expensive.
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apple_pie_order
What would you consider to be hip? Or what is appealing about the Camelot Homes Verandah- the finishes, the architecture, floors, bathroom style, the overall decor?
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Stewey
I checked out all the gorgeous photos from smugmug-thanks for posting! My suggestion there was to 1) raise the LR floor if you can, 2) retile with scabos travertine. You can get a sample right from Amazon or I'm sure supply houses in your part of the world have it since it comes from there. 3) You could leave bathroom tile alone-it seems clean. I'd throw down a seagrass rug which holds up well to water. Overstock.com usually has a nice selection. 4) Definately carpet the bedrooms. If you don't want to rip the tile up, consider going over it with a large carpet tile from Flor.com.

Also I see you have been taking kitchen suggestions. I have a few as well. The kitchen is quite small. It would be nice to increase counters pace by taking out the wall oven, and putting an upper and lower in it's place. Run the new countertops across. Then replace the cooktop with a great cooktop/stove. The best Houzz kitchens seem to have Wolf ranges. And a matching stainless steel fridge is in order. The cabinets look quite fine with nice grain, but they are sort of orangey. Short of painting or staining, it seems like the style (are they shaker?) would support a grasscloth wallpaper insert. That is, on the flat part in between the stiles. A lighter neutral color would be nice, and add a lot of texture. You could also add a pair of glass doors somewhere where you plan to put stemware, and put a couple of puck lights in there to back light it . And voila!

Good luck with this beautiful, well designed home.
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Veronica
Looks like plenty of great feedback. My opinion would be to keep the sunken floor, I don't think it is a safety issue with getting old and gives great dimension to the room. I would remove all those half walls though. I think travertine would make this feel too cold and it can get expensive. I like travertine in a bath. My suggestion is to use slate, which has random colors, can find fairly expensive, and doesn't show dirt at all. I layed 400 sq feet thru my house at 99cents per 12x12 tile, with gray grout. It is maintenance free and has all the different colors you can pick up. I would break that up with some sections of the floor with wood, whether it is the foyer or the dining room. Take the extra money you saved from the tile and go up the drywall with some stacked stone.
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Stewey
One more thought: if you do go the wood route and don't want regular wood for humidity/dry issues, please check out engineered wood. Not laminate, which you will regret.
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mcgrew56
This is a GREAT house, in a GREAT neighborhood, with a really nice settng. I live about 10 minutes north of this location...this home looks like it would lend itself easily to a WARM contempory vibe. You've got to get rid of all that white tile, and go with either some of the suggestions, here, OR, check out the many colors that slate flooring comes in. Not crazy about the orange cupboards, BUT, it's surprising how gray (walls)can make it look more sophisticated. You could also paint the cupboards, first with a Zinsser Bullseye1-2-3 primer, then your paint color (NO SANDING). You should change out those appliances for stainless steel--also tones down that orange wood. You could check with Billi Springer or Sue Bickerdyke to see if they would quote you a price for designer consultation....they are not "up and coming", and have most certainly ARRIVED,....but, they both do timeless designs of many styles, very suitable for the southwest home.
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Kiler Photography
Who shot the pics? They have unusually straight verticals for amateurs...

Limited Budget, Paint...

Strip and stain the Kitchen Cabs. And it looks like other wood trim matches, to do the same to all other trim to match again.

Backsplash tiles change out to horizontal lines tiles, maybe those glass tiles that look so nice.

Floors, lose the diamonds in the tiles, probably means pull all the tile. Use the wood flooring that creates linear patterns to draw you into a space. I like the neutral variegated wood floor above, by Aggie Designs.

It seems like you need neutral colors, some darks, and then a bit of punchy color, which could be your furnishings or art. Single walls of colored paint or texture would really liven up the space too. The house is a beautiful canvas, have FUN! But paint definitely is the cheapest exercise, and can easily be redone if you don't like your explorations...
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jickmagger
Mcgrew56, I had a look online at the two designers you mentioned and both are interesting. This will be a difficult project for us on a budget as we are not used to compromising. I'm sure you know what renovating is like. One thing leads to another and before you know it you have priced your home out of the surrounding market.. We like the area and as I said we like the setting and feel of the home. Appliances will need to be upgraded. Fridge stove dish washer and microwave budget 7K. Flooring budget 20K. Counter tops kitchen 2K. Just a few of the items we have looked at so far. Main bathroom wife wants to take down the full mirror and have a mirror with frame and replace the light fixture. She is not keen on painting the kitchen cupboards and frankly is hoping we can be happy with the wall colour of ivory that was just painted. The tile in the home will all be taken up and probably have a travertine throughout all rooms. if we raise the floor it adds about 2K to the budget. Thanks for your comments and advice.
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jickmagger
Stewey, thanks for taking the time to post your ideas. We did look online at scabos but are more likely to go with Versailles Walnut travertine. I don't think the budget will allow Wolf appliances for this project although we all love the look of them. I would like to have a stove and oven in one but again it means reworking the kitchen cupboards which has become a real stumbling block. ideally the kitchen needs stripped out and started over but new cupboards maybe out of line here. We will have to run a gas line to the kitchen but hopefully that isnt too much work.
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Jacqueline Parker
Here is a very economical alternative...http://venturacaststone.com/cast-stone-textures.htm
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victorianbungalowranch
I agree that a grey or some other color of wall paint in the kitchen will make the cabinets look less orange and blocky, and for the woodwork in other parts of the house as well. I think a less stark color will add a lot of warmth and dimension too, and help pull the elements together. I would consider painting the kitchen a couple of shades darker than the living room in a more natural aged putty type color.

I would definately keep the "sunken" floor. It adds so much definition to the space and I would be concerned about what it does for the windows--they may look out of proportion, and of course the ceiling will be not as high and airy. Who knows what can of worms you might be opening up, and expense, to fill it in. What if the layers don't bond well and it cracks eventually? What about the extra weight to the slab and footings?

When picking a new floor, consider slip resistance as well as cleanability. That is one reason I hate white tile--not good on either count. Unglazed porcelian tile is good for both and can have some nice color variation. Of course marble is very pretty, but is expensive and requires special care for cleaning.
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Ryan Sullivan
Jick, Your countertop budget is too low to do caesarstone or silestone. That kitchen will be $4 to 5K. The material alone will cost $2K...2 to 3 slabs of Caesarstone at $720 per slab. You better stick with an engineered or laminate wood floor with your budget of $20K. If you only do 2000 sf that's only $10 per square foot and that's not enough to remove, purchase and install new tile. MAYBE saltillo or slate (both cost about a buck per foot) but not stone or any decent porcelain. I'm not trying to rain on your parade, only sharing my expertise on what you can expect to pay for specialized contractor services in that area. I don't want you to be shocked and/or disappointed.
1 Like   November 25, 2012 at 6:22PM
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jickmagger
Hi Sullies, You could be right about the counter tops. My wife was estimating that for me. We would consider an engineered wood floor but we have a verbal quote of 7.10 a square foot sealed for Versailles Walnut travertine. We may leave the floor sunken as it would save the additional cost to raise the floor. This was in a separate budget. Another separate budget is removing the old tile throughout. We will have an itemized quote from a flooring contractor tomorrow. I think my biggest difficulty at the moment is still the kitchen cupboards but maybe I am overly concerned. Don't worry about raining on my parade. If I am out to lunch on some budget items I would rather know that and adjust my thinking now as opposed to a big surprise later. Thanks for the input.
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ruthyo
sunken living rooms are prone to people falling off of them..Dangerous. Take it from me..They may be dramatic but dangerous.
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greenthumb2
http://www.houzz.com/projects/48716/Pass-Residence
for some insight about flooring transitions and wall colors.

I also like the colors they worked with in the kitchen area in the link I posted for you.

Also helpful would be to purchase an area rug to cover up the fireplace room floor so that it is easy to see the transition, while you and family figure out if it's fine just the way is is...

If you decide to keep the sunken floor, the transition is key. Make it a deliberate floor change here (as the originals are), and you can even light the stairs with LED for minimal cost.

Or.....Raise the floor and settle for less expensive flooring. Safer while you are living there and entertaining. Reasoning: this house may end up being your forever home, or the one you always come back to for it's great feel.

one more option: change your traffic flow. Continue the round wall from the entry way (foyer) having a open window see through to the back, but not for foot traffic.

Unless you are moving into the home immediately, take your time. There are thousands of pictures on houzz that are helpful. Look at them together and decide on favorites. Sounds as though you are willing to be a little flexible on the "fun house".

Enjoy your process!

links to flooring:
http://www.mosaictilestone.com/12-x12-Coliseum-Travertine-H-F-p/144.htm
http://www.mosaictilestone.com/Chocolate-Porcelain-12x24-Matte-p/por-choc-12x24.htm
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greenthumb2
PS. A real estate transaction is not fulfilled until all time periods have expired and both parties have signed off on all points.
If you are still within your inspection time period and the title is not yet in your name, you have an accepted offer pending release of contingencies, whatever they may be on the contract. Being in escrow is not the same thing as being the new owner. I guess this is Aja's point.
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jickmagger
GreenThumb2, Nice colours and a beautiful house in your link. We received 2 estimates to remove tile from entire floor. 3000 and 3700. Cost to raise floor is 3700. Travertine installed and sealed 17,000. Granite slab countertops 2 for kitchen 3,000. We are now thinking a new paint job and still struggle with the woodwork and the cabinetry throughout. Not sure what to do.
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Aggie Purvinska
My thoughts on this...

Don't raise the floor, it works well with the architecture of the house.
Don't get the granite countertops, but live with corian for now, until at a later time, you can upgrade the whole kitchen.
Paint kitchen cabinets.
Paint walls, woodwork.

Travertine will be stunning.
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jickmagger
AggieDesigns, We continue to work our way through many of the ideas and suggestions. I would say at the top of the list is the floor and we are no more open to the idea of leaving the floor level as is. Travertine appears to be the way we are going. I don't think we can live with the corian. This may come down to buying new cabinets at this time. Priorities are floor, kitchen. My wife is okay with the white marble in the shower and countertops in the bathroom. We will likely paint but again not sure about the paint on the wood.
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victorianbungalowranch
Those cabinets are in great shape. Replacing would be expensive-refacing is cheaper. If you replace, then consider donating to Habitate for Humanity ReStore stores.
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Aggie Purvinska
I like the direction you are going, I think it will be excellent. If professionally painted (all doors and hardware promptly removed), sanded, primed painted at a shop, with new hardware, all frames sanded on site, primed and painted. the cabinets will look amazing.

I think in order to live with the cabinets the way they are (orange), you would have to pull some kind of color trick on the walls and backsplash, like a deep dark sapphire...

I don't blame you re: corian. I hope corian people don't see this (I work with corian because it is often specified, but it's terrible as a countertop, the only great thing about corian is seamless sink and no seams).
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jickmagger
Not sure where we are headed with the cabinets. After much discussion we have decided to leave the sunken family room. We will use a travertine throughout the house. Considerations are Ivory onyx and Walnut travertine at this point. We will decide on counter tops once we have a direction for the cabinets( replace, refinish). We could live with them if they were less orange. We are open to spending on a new paint job. Any ideas for paint colours? Here is the ivory onyx and the Walnut Travertine (ignore the granite countertop in photo) we didn't like it. Quartz countertops will also be a consideration. Thanks for the help.
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victorianbungalowranch
I like the lighter Ivory Onyx--the walnut seems very busy to do a whole house with.

I think it would be possible to brush on a darker finish for the cabinets.
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jickmagger
Victoriabungalowranch, Thanks. We agree with you about the onyx. Not sure what getting a darker finish on the cabinets would entail.
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Aggie Purvinska
I am in the Walnut Camp, the Ivory Onyx is too warm, and is complementing the orange cabinets, actually. I don't like it.

The Walnut Travertine is beautiful and is more like the exterior house that is already great.
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Aggie Purvinska
I mean I don't like it in your context. And your preferences of moving away from the orange, it doesn't accomplish it.
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Pamela Danner
I'm not sure you would have to completely refinish your cabinets to tone down the orange consider having them glazed. The doors would be removed lightly sanded and a glaze applied. The frames would be sanded and glazed in place. I pulled the attached photo off the net the cabinet on the top right looks similar to your stain and it is quite toned down with a dark glaze on it
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calikym
I like the sunken floor. It adds dimension and interest, plus gives you a distinct front entry way. Good choice to stick w it and use the money for something else.
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greenthumb2
A sunken floor is fine but with three transitions in and out, can get to be tiresome and a surprise for those not used to doing it. :=)
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calikym
I'm sure my parents would agree. Aging eyes and bodies don't like stairs. :) I might feel differently in 20 years.
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