Help me deal with this fireplace!!!
We've finished most of our basement family/media room remodel, but lack a couple of major details. This is a blurry pic, but the walls are a light grey. The curtains besides the fireplace are a bronzey-brown and are only decorative, there are no windows. the coffee table is not normally there, and we'll be replacing anyway. The fireplace is the problem. We painted the 2 columns the same grey as the walls just to see how it would look. We are thinking of tearing off the columns and mantlepiece, and tiling over the whole thing with a stone veneer/tile that's a little more modern like the 2 pictured. Opinions please?
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/buechelstone/sets/72157626765433140/
http://pinterest.com/buechelstone/fireplaces-using-stone/
Here's a little video of installation if you want to see what i mean.
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Perhaps anothr rustic accent would work, such as a real small tree branch (birch work well) set in gravel and plaster of paris in a small bucket (which can ge covered in burlap or fabric or a nicer pot) to replace the fake greevery. I have one in my dining room and it looks pretty cool. A local florist has a lot of these and they look great and you can even decorate them for the holidays if you wish.
Don't know where you live, but you could nab some branches from the local tree-cutting crew before they get chipped up, or get some from a friend with land, or get a permit fo cut your own Chirsitmas tree and greenery from the National Forest, and collect some branches there. Birch bark is good for crafts too, and you can dry out pinecoes and make them open in the oven.--A basket of them by the hearth might look nice.
Staining the mortar alone could help, especially on the hearth. And maybe you could paint the fireox black with heat resistant paint and add a nice rustic decorative firescreen.
EHow has directions how to do this. Perhaps the stone guys can chime in and let you know if that will affect changing to stone facing later.
If you do go for stone,consider something a little darker and more rustic and natural looking, with rusty and grey tones. And I would light it to bring out the texture (raking light from the side).
However, the stone veneer and other improvements will be lovely.
Wire lath or rock lathe isnt' so bad if you don't mind working with a trowel--can mud it in a bit at a time if need be and finish off with Venetian plaster if you wish. True, can be messy and time consuming..
like the time I decided I wanted bangs and I couldn't stop cutting my hair.
here are a couple of pics of the tv wall, the second with the electric screen coming down. so you can see I don't want to ditch this setup.
I think some cove lighting with crown molding about 6-8 inches from the ceiling in the tray with rope or led lighting would be nice, but a little hard to wire to the switches. and I would still need a center fixture. my idea is to replace the fan with a fixture now, then maybe add the cove lighting later.
As a design professional, I would suggest the following. There are different factors that are contingent on your answers and I will try to cover these issues.
- Resurfacing of the fireplace. Would you be doing this yourself or done by a professional?
- If you are doing it yourself, some of the advice given to you will not work. I think the Bruechel Stone product is a nice selection (boulder style), BUT this must be done by a professional. It would be over-welming for a homeowner. To do it yourself you would first need to remove your crown molding and mantle. Any suggestion not removing the mantle and putting up stone would look substandard. As a designer, I have redesigned fireplaces for many clients. Here are instructions, step by step that would work successfully and compliment your rustic transitional room setting.
1) Since you are familiar with Buechel Stone, use their "Cinnamon Bark Ledgestone." This product is sold in mesh sheets and requires no grouting. It also should be easy to cut. The color is also perfect for a warm, cozy, but sophisticated look.
1) leave the brick structure intact. This is your foundation to build off of. Remove the crown and carefully remove the mantle. The mantle you will be able to cut down and rehang later.
2) Cover all brick surfaces with cement board. This should be glued and screwed into position with cement screws that penetrate the brick. Also, don't forget to cement board the inside edge of your firebox. Otherwise it will look amateur.
3) Now you have a flat surface and a layer of thinset is applied.
4) Apply the ledgestone to the thinset. Of course you will need to do the proper cutting of the stone sheets.
5) After application, and dry time, you can use a rough file to tidy up any outside corner edges you are not happy with.
6) Cut down the sides of your mantle, put a base coat or two of a warmer paint color in an satin finish and reinsert in the recess above the firebox. Before reputting up your mantle, check with your city building dept for BOCA (building code restrictions) for combustible material allowances. Wood product/mantle distances are determined by the area the opening of your firebox. This is also why you are using cement board for your building foundation. Later if you want to sell your home, this will prevent any hitches in your sale.
7) Using a paintable, flexable caulk fill in the gaps between the mantle and stone and paint with your finish coat very carefully.
Now for the other details in your room:
1) - I would need to know your ceiling height but in any case, I would not do your idea for the ceiling. Combining lighting and wood can cause a fire. Remove your fan and just keep it clean and add recessed smaller spots. Also, put 2 small (4") directional eyeballs above the fireplace instead of one and add additional (1 per side) pointing to where your draperies are now hanging.
2) I noticed a bin with toys on the floor. Either build or purchase doored storage cabinets on either side of the fireplace after removing the draperies. I think the draperies are nice for a different room, but they should be a heavily textured material if you want to go with that. It would be more practical to have bin storage tucked away in your fireside cabinets. If you can't build them, buy them to fit as closely as possible to the space width.
3) find framed wall art that is almost as large as the space remaining above the cabinets. Preferably something with color and trees. It will bring the outdoors in and and color and texture. Color and texture is paramount with all the leather furniture you have.
4) Find a nice square distressed coffee table. Don't add any more leather (ottomans, etc.) to the room.
5) Leave your movie and flat screen viewing where it is. It doesn't work in any context above the fireplace. The space left after code restrictions and mantle is too small and especially too high for viewing. It would be ergonomically and anthropetrically incorrect.
6) that's about all other than furnishing and accessory details. One more thing: the rug should be big enough for at least the front legs of your furniture to resting on it to be the proper size. Either skootch the chairs and sofa in a little or get a bigger rug.
Ledger stone sample: http://www.buechelstone.com/shoppingcart/products/Cinnamon-Bark-Ledgestone.html
1. I would like to try to do the work myself. I am fairly handy, and have done some tile backsplash & flooring work, so I kinda know what I'm getting myself into. The material I have seen at a local store we like is similar to the pics below, comes in sheets around 8x16 or so. I am planning on removing the crown and mantel, and also removing the columns to make a flat brick surface. What do you think will happen if I try to apply the stone sheets directly to the brick with type-s mortar as Buechel stone suggests above? do you think it will not be flat enough to get a uniform surface, or that the stone won't adhear well?
2. the ceiling height is 8 ft around the perimeter of the tray, and approx 9.5 feet inside the tray. I cannot put any kind of recessed fixtures inside the tray. there are steel beams and framing galore above that ceiling and would be a nightmare to wire anyway. so I'm stuck with a hanging fixture in the center. I had thought of a round drum light as impax suggested, but so far haven't seen anything I thought would be large enough. I think maybe 30+ inches across would be minimum to look right?
3. usually no toy or other bins are sitting around. only pic I had handy after my son-n-law trashed the place with his game stuff.
4. I'll give the other suggestions some thought e.g. coffee table & art in place of curtains. Finding the right low cabinets & art will be crucial. might have to live with the curtains until we find them, but that would work.
again, thanks a million!
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Love the light fixture!
When do you launch?
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but I digress...... If I get that light fixture, I'll change out the ceiling fan friday. Thinking about waiting until after the holidays to dive into that fireplace, don't want to have a mess then, plus it give me more time to wring my hands about it, and look at a few thousand more houzz pics trying to decide what to do! ;) p.s. you REALLY like the fixture? I may have to have a little more wine to work up the courage for that one......
I think waiting until after Christmas to wrestle with the fireplace is an excellent idea.
BTW, I like the dark curtains! Mayb a little uplighting in that area will make it look a bit less dark, or putting something there the downlights will catch could help, or just tilting them toward the curtains, will help to give a bit of dimension.
I have a few methods.
A heatgun is like an industrial strength hair blowdryer. The temp is much, much hotter, some are digitally controlled, and the airflow is normally lower. You can find them at hardware stores and big box stores (lowes,HD, Menards, etc), normally in the paint dept.
http://www.dumondchemicals.com/
Fireplace makeover done with Brick-Anew Fireplace Paint Kit in 3 designer finishes.
Stone would be great if you are up to big projects!!
I would also add lighting. There are two options. One is to put sconces on the fireplace itself so the light lightly cascades down the stone to create some beautiful shadows, or place can lights off center of the fireplace for nice even lighting.
A new fireplace grate adds a beautiful touch to the new finished fireplace. I will attach a before and after picture of fireplace that we completed that had a brick H shape featured that was then covered in another material to cover the brick. We removed the H, prepped the wall, installed a new beam mantel and stone without a mortar joint.
Also bookcases really add a lot to a room and creates a nice balance.
www.northstarstone.biz
or aandrews@northstarstone.biz for any questions about stone veneer for your fireplace
I love the new stone you are contemplating. Quick question, is your fireplace a gas insert, or natural wood burning?
You may need to adjust your sub-strate if you tear this down and re-build properly if its a natural wood burning fireplace.
Below I have two photos. The brick was simply painted out white.
Added a more rustic mantle, because a painted brick lends itself to a more industrial look - so the raw wood always looks great.
Then you can play with your accessorizing. As you can see, same fireplace - two completely different looks using only furniture and accessories.
Ask yourself,
Is it the fireplace we are unhappy with?
What does the final result actually look like to us?
Find a picture of a room with a fireplace that you love
then work towards getting that end result.
Do what makes you happy - be in love with your choice, not just an OK for now.
You will always be happier with the love, Love LOVE than temporary fix.
Do it the way you always want it to be done.
I hope my images have inspired you to do what's right for you, good luck with your project.
We decided to keep the light fixture we bought and got it up over the weekend. Actually wanted a bit larger one, but we got a good deal on this one, and like the modern look and feel of it.
Also picked up a 12x24 porcelain tile sample, that's sitting on the mantle. Attached a pic of a similar tile. Thinking of using that for the fireplace resurface. It's around $4 sq ft compared to $20+ for stone veneer and we like the look as well or better. I'll get a close up of it, but is has a really natural stone look to it. Thinking of doing it in a running bond pattern and removing the columns for a flat surface.
Also having dilemna over coffee table replacement. Can't find a coffee table we like so we're thinking of going with an ottoman but can't decide on round,square or rectangular. Looking for input on that too! Due to the recliner mechanism in the sofa & loveseat and the furniture placement we can't center the ottoman/coffee table under the ceiling light fixture.