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suzanne_m This is a very clever idea for those who don't have a stairs going down right below the stairs going up.

Lynne Forrestal Space between the studs can be used as display shelves if anyone wanted to cut opening and build a shallow box to insert... a way to add interest to a wall without taking up actual space... just tossing ideas for small spaces out. Also, somewhere I did see, but can't find it now , a window seat/ bench that had actual filing cabinet drawer behind nice looking drawer or cabinet fronts to make a dining area double duty for office storage. From the front it just looked like panels on the bottom, wouldn't even know there were drawers there at all so it keeps a clean visulal line.Found this one, not the one I remember but it gets the idea out there to keep in mind for Later possibility,
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cushioned-File-Cabinet-Black-Drawers-Chair-Seat-Rolling-Cushion-New-/151015665845?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23293c30b5

groveraxle I apologize for the horrible paint job on the stair rail, Rhonda. Next time you should hire a professional.

Kathryn Peltier Design I hate to tell ya, G.A., but I think the risers are going to be painted, too lol!

groveraxle Well, I'm not painting them tonight!

Lynne Forrestal Curiious question Rhonda.. are you planning to change the closet doors on the stairs, or paint them to match the walls? painting may give you a more spacious feeling

Kevin Retired Decorator I love white painted louvered doors.

Darzy I'd like to vote for the first art option pair that groveraxle posted. I think the vertical flowers in the first option complements the bird art and the hint of turquoise makes the pair interesting. Plus, Rhonda, if you'd ever like to change things up just a bit, you can do the turquoise/lime combo with a hint of red. Plus, it's pretty. You like the first two options but I agree with you the second option is too yellow.

Darzy Rhonda, you were thinking of a little accent table or "desk" or sorts.. this little number is only 15" wide, 44" long and is only $124 at walmart.com. It's antique black and the style will complement the coffee table and black of the floorcloth. You can even pull up a chair from the dinining room to it for a laptop/desk. AND...it has drawers to hide the keys or cell phone charger. I'm diggin' it. ;)
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Anna-Console-Table-Antique-Black/10963581#Specifications

Darzy BTW..I love that green glass table lamp that Kathryn found. Nice and "chic". BTW..a light kit (contemporary) for the ceiling fan on a dimmer would add overhead light and "mood" for the room. :)

I'm tickled pink you have done your entire downstairs for less than the kitchen bid. Good for you! You're right...you should be able to come home and love your space and it IS worth it!

groveraxle I still would like to see a bench and lamp between the sectional and the stair. The upholstered benches have the added benefit of storage (grandkids' toy boxes, maybe?).

Lynne Forrestal Groveraxle, I agree with the bench and lamp idea, The floor lamps look very neat and clean, the wood one with the green lamp is table , lamp and seating.. but I do think Rhonda needs storage that is "handy" and not all the way up or down stairs.

Kathryn Peltier Design Twp floor lamps in this small area is too much. The only way (again, other than a wall mount of some kind) to get lighting for the chaise is a floor lamp. I think the lamp near the stair, therefore, needs to be a table lamp.

oneofeleven Although I've been here since the beginning this is the first time I've become aware that there's a closet on the landing. There's been several posts re:storage. Won't the closet take care of this? How big is it, is it used for coats or could it be reconfigured with shelves? Thanks guys.

vacox Wow, I went back and looked at the additional pictures Rhonda posted ages ago--I hadn't noticed the closet, either. And the fact that it looks like you have an enclosed front porch, Rhonda??

oneofeleven Maybe an enclosed back porch as well?

groveraxle A couple of thoughts, especially since we're in budget mode. Let's look at repurposing what we can. The console under the TV has room for some of Rhonda's baskets (if I remember correctly) and might be a fine end table by the sofa with a table lamp. The baskets could hold toys and/or magazine overflow.

The ceiling fan might be repainted white and get a new, more modern light kit to save money. Maybe Rhonda has a table lamp that could be painted; Rustoleum has a lovely limey green. A smart new drum shade could perk it up.

Gotta run, but this afternoon I will look at the old pictures and try to pick through the existing furniture. I'll bet there are some treasures in there.

MG Mack Available on Etsy

Darzy Love that art MG! Rhonda said not to worry about storage downstairs and I think Rhonda has ordered a white ceiling fan. A contemporary light kit on the fan with a dmmer would add overhead light since cans are not an option. I agree with Kathryn that if you have a floor lamp on the right corner, a table and lamp on the left would look best (and lighting best). Rhonda can simply paint the side table she has black.

Darzy Rhonda said she'd like one or two accent chairs. I'm thinking something with little visual weight may work floating at an angle towards the sofa at the base of the stairs. Then, leave the space open between the chair and the end table/lamp at the left corner. This is an off white leather which may not be the best, but I do like that this chair has an open back and legs, yet arms for comfort. Actually, the off white leather may work...the curtains the "bird" the white in the floor cloth and the white kichen cabinets....oh..and the new white painted stair railing.

suzanne_m Again, I have a question for the pro, you are so helpful! I hear often the term flaoting for sofa or chair, what does that mean?

allcast It seems to me that there is not enough room for permanent chairs. Am I wrong? Katherine, how much room do you need for a walkway? Would it be better to have fun clear acrylic or wooden folding chairs available to use with guests? Also the old landing from the original kitchen-basement entrance......is there a place to put a closet there that can be reached from the now basement landing? Added coat space, storage for extra chairs? I may not understand how Mr. G was able to move the door... A side table like this might give you room to place a printer on the lower shelf. I'm concerned about a table obstructing the walkway to your kitchen, too.:)
http://www.cymax.com/Winsome-Liso-Printer-Table-with-Drawer-and-Shelf-in-Dark-Espresso-92719.htm
This is my last thought (I promise). If the bird print was lowered could a 3-4" depth shelf be placed above to hold something personal like a family clock, colorful plates or children's art?

groveraxle @ suzanne_m, floating the furniture just means pulling it out from the walls, floating it in the center of the room.

Darzy, I believe Rhonda suggested two accent chairs and small table by the other living room window, next to where the TV will be mounted.

suzanne_m Thank you groveraxle for the information.

groveraxle As I understand it, the new TV wall is opposite the stair landing and should look something like this. I've included Darzy's club chairs. I couldn't resist the elephant table. Clearly, it's more my style than Rhonda's.

groveraxle Kathryn, one other thought about the lamps. I agree that two floor lamps would be too much, but instead of a table lamp, what about a swag lamp? That could go at either end of the couch.

Kevin Retired Decorator I love swag lamps, Glad their back in vogue.

Lynne Forrestal Here's a wall hanging lamp that may work also, and if Rhonda likes one of the patterned shades, perhaps it could be the third piece of ART on the sofa wall as well, not sure if it will work, but thought worth mentioning.
http://www.lampsplus.com/products/stacy-garcia-coral-12-inch-drum-swing-arm__k1164-k4544.html

Lynne Forrestal try to post photo again ... not letting me post photo but here is the link to the photo http://image.lampsplus.com/is/image/K1164-K4544.fpx?qlt=75&wid=460&hei=460&fmt=jpeg

groveraxle A swing arm lamp or sconce would have to be wired. The advantage to a swag lamp is that it hangs from the ceiling but plugs in. You can buy swag kits--the actual lamp part--and then buy any shade you want. And then you can hang them at any height. They're actually really versatile, now that I think about it. And while I don't love them like Kevin, I think they're fine if you don't have to swag them too far.

Kevin Retired Decorator Swing arm lamps have cords to and you can buy a cord cover

Lynne Forrestal Ok, the one I posted above says plug in... I know I don't care for the issue of hiding the cord, but there are cord covers that can be painted the wall color to blend in a bit. These came in many styles of shades and colors/ patterns.. or I am sure a less expensive plain one is available elsewhere too.

rhondagoodwin I like all the ideas for the lighting and the best part is I have outlets at both ends of that wall and if it needed to be wired in my husband could do that also.... Just a matter of deciding which ones will work best.

oneofeleven Many swing arm lamps simply plug in, I have two on either side of my bed.

suzanne_m ... but it's always nicer if it is wired :) I wonder if Rhonda could get lamps that use tri-lite bulbs. It could be a way to get ambiance light.

groveraxle Lookin' good.

rhondagoodwin Here is another backsplash that caught my eye... Different angles

oneofeleven that's very pretty

suzanne_m I like it because it catches the colors of the walls, the backsplash and the blinds.

Kathryn Peltier Design That tile looks pretty dark, Rhonda, but that being said, it could work.

As far as the lighting discussion, here is my opinion: a swag lamp could be used, but not in conjunction with a floor lamp - they will look too much alike in that they're above the head. If a swag lamp is to be used somewhere, I think it should be used in place of the floor lamp. That way, the view stays unobstructed from and to the stairs.

A swing-arm wall lamp would also work in place of the floor lamp. I guess that perhaps a floor lamp at the stair end could be used with this, but keep in mind that they shouldn't compete in terms of pattern or color (i.e. one patterned shade and one plain shade). Just an FYI: I see the old brass swing arm lamps at thrift/resale stores all the time for just a few dollars (like $5). Before investing a lot of money in a new one, I would see if you could find one and spray paint it, either in a color or a metal look.

I guess I don't really see the advantage of a floor lamp near the stair, however, since there IS room there for end table(s) and it seems like a good spot, since it isn't big enough for something else. As many of the previous nested tables showed, these don't have to take up a lot of visual space but I think they would be very useful - even a single table of some sort would be useful. An end table is usually more handy for setting a drink e.g. than a coffee table, and as I said before, if the grandchildren are sitting there, you would definitely want another more out-of-the-way spot to set a glass.

I saw this floor lamp this morning - I like the tie-in of the wood tone and it's an interesting design:
https://www.jossandmain.com/Lighting-Under-150-Walden-Floor-Lamp~AE2015~E4300.html

I went back and looked at the height of the arm on the sectional - it's about 26", so the end table should be taller. Here's one from Target, and although I would prefer a white or glass to lighten things up, this one would fit nicely 18"square by 24.5"h
http://www.target.com/p/jared-end-table-black/-/A-13405932#?lnk=sc_qi_detaillink

Similar in white
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Carolina-Cottage-Hamilton-End-Table/22939107

This table isn't quite as tall, but I think it would work, it's nice looking (white) and you can NOT beat the price:
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20214123/#/00176283
(oh, sorry, this one is $79 - I was thinking it was the $9.99 Lak but that is not tall enough, unfortunately, although you could probably add casters to raise it up and make it more interesting at the same time!)

groveraxle Too dark, IMHO.

groveraxle Oh yes, I can beat the price of that end table, Kathryn. How about if Rhonda repurposes one of the tables she already has. A can of Rustoleum is less than $5. That would save about $75 to go toward the lamp. A table is a table--four legs and a top--but a lamp can be a statement piece. Since we're down to a tighter budget, I say put the money into the lamp.

Love the green glass one from Pier1, BTW.

suzanne_m Now, that I see it, I agree with Kathryn and groveraxle ... too dark.

Kathryn Peltier Design That would be great if there is a table that would work. I'm always about saving money!

suzanne_m I don't know if someone has suggested these tables before:

groveraxle Two tables and a file cabinet:

jayapple21 g.a., thanks. Those are the pieces I mentioned painting and repurposing a day or so ago but it's so much more relevant when you can see them in an illustration. You're getting really good with that Photoshop program!

suzanne_m I think the small table by the entrance is perfect for the end table. It just need 2 coats of paint. As for the tv table, maybe it can be re-purpose as the bench seat in the dining room ... just add a big cushion on it

Kevin Retired Decorator Sorry I wouldn't want a file cabinet in my living room. If needed you could put a round top on it and a floor length table cloth. Even then I'm not sure that would look good with Rhonda's style.

groveraxle Rhonda's little end table + one can of spray paint =

groveraxle Oh, I dunno, Kevin. It's a pretty nice file cabinet--looks like solid oak--not one of those flimsy metal things that get all dented and scratched. But then, I am the queen of repurposing. My coffee table (which doubles as a bench) is actually a Senufo bed and my entry table is an African drum.

oneofeleven what is a Senufo bed?

Kevin Retired Decorator A Africa bed made of all wood.

rhondagoodwin I actually have two of those end tables.
I have posted 4 more samples in my things I like album of tile I got in... I am waiting on two more.
By. The time I decide, I may have enough samples to do my whole wall ...LOL

groveraxle Senufo bed. They are carved out of a single piece of wood.

furrytoes Rhonda, you mentioned wanting a table for your printer to go under the air conditioner in the dining room: would the file cabinet work, perhaps with darker stain or paint? Then it would also provide a space to store paper and ink cartridges.

furrytoes Cool "table" groveraxle!

groveraxle Thanks for the reminder, furrytoes. I was going to suggest a desk... I don't know what kind of a woodworker Mr. G is, Rhonda, but I'm guessing pretty good after seeing the island he built. Here is the coolest desk I've ever seen. It's so simple, I think I'm gonna try building one myself. The neat thing is, when you're done working, you don't have to straighten anything up; you just fold down the top and everything is hidden instantly.

oneofeleven Just found this picture ,love the colours, very inexpensive too
http://www.art.com/products/p13885065936-sa-i6506948/shirley-novak-mango-tango-i.htm#.UDJc4CS84W0.pinterest

oneofeleven this is just like the pictures Rhonda likes

oneofeleven here's a kitchen that uses 2 different tiles and roman blinds that open bottom up

groveraxle Look, Rhonda, I added a wall mounted desk and a bench to your dining room. I know this isn't the window covering you'd planned, but I can't find any nice cafe curtains and I think the bamboo blinds look good. They'd be even better if they were top down/bottom up. And in the second pic, I even made a bench cushion for you. (You didn't know I could sew, did you?)

Here are some great wall desks, all too expensive, but I'll bet Mr. G could build one: http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/10-affordable-space-saving-wall-mounted-desks-168513

And here is an 11" deep wall shelf with drawers that I'll bet he could hack into a desk: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S49885348/

groveraxle BTW, in that second picture, the bench is actually your old TV console with a cushion (made by your cousin) on top. Remember, Rustoleum is your friend!

groveraxle The Ikea wall shelf:

oneofeleven here's a sweet little table

Kathryn Peltier Design Rhonda, I happened to see this in an email. It's ridiculously expensive for what it is, but I wondered if your husband couldn't make something just like it for your printer and laptop? A bit 'o plywood and some casters and you're there. On the other hand, I know you have some existing furniture you might repurpose. Just thought I'd send it along, though, in case you didn't see it
https://www.onekingslane.com/product/21394/1334253

rhondagoodwin I recieved the samples in from Susan Jablon and I do believe these are the ones I am going to go with.... They match the paint almost perfect and the small square matches the spring thaw.

Kevin Retired Decorator I like the tile, I think you found the right one!

oneofeleven This lamp would add some texture and connect the dining room to the living room

rhondagoodwin My only question on the tile is what color grout should I go with?
I believe the grout in the picture I posted is gray

retrofuture I think someone mentioned painting the wall panels white. I agree! You can also do a whitewash paint over the floors. If you brighten up the place, it will look bigger. This are gorgeous: http://www.elledecor.com/home-remodeling/punch-list/painted-floor-ideas

You also need some mirrors. But it looks like you have a lot of the accessories covered.

Kevin Retired Decorator I like the gray or darker just because it's easier to stay clean.

oneofeleven Here's something for your doggy "child"

rhondagoodwin Oneofeleven, would you believe that was the first thing I bought, before anything else a dog bed that would match my sofa...LOL

oneofeleven That's great, can you post a picture? I've got a small dog myself that I'm pretty fond of and I know our furry kids are pretty important!

oneofeleven @Kathryn, here's a table similar to the one you posted but at half the price

concordhome Rhonda - what type of dog do you have. I saw a small black and white one in one of the kitchen pictures that looks a lot like our dog. We call our dog a "designer dog" (short for mutt). He's a poodle mix.

groveraxle Hey, are we on a budget here or not? Nobody likes my $55 Ikea wall shelf with drawers? How about that nice wood file cabinet Rhonda already has for a printer stand? It bears repeating: Rustoleum is your friend.

Rhonda, the photoshop image of your Jablon backsplash tile used the charcoal grout she has on her website.

Kathryn Peltier Design Yes, I do like that Ikea shelf - I just think she has to wait until the dining room table is installed. Yes that file cabinet would probably work - I just happened to see that table and thought the printer would be a little more out of the way on the bottom.

This Ikea shelf might also work in the corner by the AC and it's only $14.99. One might actually fit on either side of the DR window (?): http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90114752/

allcast Katherine, how much room should be allowed for walking around furniture? 24 or 36inches?

Darzy I'm finally going to say something that has been bothering me. The wall mount tv in the "hall" (right in the walk path from the front door to the kitchen) is not a great location. The wall mount tv's take a lot of space out from the wall. Then, if you pull out to swivel towards the kitchen it's a HUGE head bumper there. I propose a low profile and narrow console for the tv (with a riser for the electronics below the tv) directly in front of sectional. Then, to round out the conversation area, only one accent chair at the base of the stairs. Or, a swivel type chair for tv viewing or conversation towards the sectional.

BTW...I agree with Kathryn that until the furniture arrives, other decisions should wait. Things change all the time during the process. I have a feeling the sectional will feel a lot bigger when it is in place.

Darzy The low table Rhonda already has may work as the tv console. Here's a low profile look table.

Kevin Retired Decorator The living room will need the visual weight across from the sofa. So I think a chair or two would look best. Something with a high leg an maybe armless too. The chair or chairs will be better for a conversation area . They also have armless wing back chairs that are a modern style. At homedecorators.com

Kevin Retired Decorator The two extra end tables could be stacked and attached for a budget shelf for the PC stuff. Painted out black. Or possibly use on of the old upper cabinets from the kitchen to make a small console. Painted too So all can be hidden out of sight. .Drilling a hole in the back of it to hide the wires.

Darzy I think the tv/console will the the visual weight across from the sectional. Look at the floor plan Kathryn drew up of the LR and it looks like there is no space for chairs on that wall. The front door opens to the wall and you'll run into the chairs when you open the door.

Kevin Retired Decorator There was a much larger chair there before , a smaller chair just one should be room for a walk way to the right side facing the TV.

oneofeleven this is an Ikea hack using 2 lack tables, which are similar to the ones Rhonda already has

Darzy Kevin...put the chair under where the wall mount tv is currently planned?

suzanne_m I agree with Darzy, I would be surprise if there is space for chairs. I guess we will need to wait until the sofa is in.
I like Kevin's idea about using old upper cabinet from the kitchen to make a tv console because it is only 12 in. deep . If Rhonda makes it long enough it could provide extra seating for the grand children.

Kevin Retired Decorator I was thinking of the old kitchen cabinet for the dining room. Under the a/c unit

Darzy This is an option, just use the stools from the coffee table as a "bench" across from chaise. (The stools don't have to be under the coffee table always). Then, (if the tv isn't installed on the right of the window) maybe an accent chair angled towards the sectional. If you look a the first four before pictures, there is the sofa and a chairs opposite with NO coffee table and there isn't much room as it is.

Rhonda, I propose you just paint your current end table instead of buying new so you can get a beautiful lamp (the jewelry makes a room). Then, as Kathryn mentioned...wait and do not buy anything else until the sofa and rug and the art you love has come in. The wall color, accessories and chair choice may change once you see everything is person and in place. I know we're all excited to see a finished product but better to take your time once the big pieces are in.

Kathryn Peltier Design I'm not sure where else the TV would go? To the left of the window? I suppose that MIGHT work if the front door is never left open. If it were to go there, a stop would also have to be placed on the door so that it wouldn't slam into the TV (not a big deal, but needs mentioning). To answer allcast about circulation space, it depends where you're talking about. Between a coffee table and couch you can get away with as little as 12-15"; in a kitchen you need a minimum of 36" for good circulation. The typical doorway in a house is 30", but that said, many are smaller. 30" is the minimum I would aim for in a main pathway, but 24" is enough to step between furniture certainly. Sometimes it just comes down to the space available and what you are comfortable with. Even with a small chair on the wall opposite the sectional, this room is going to feel larger and more open than ever before.

groveraxle I tried to enlarge Kathryn's latest floor plan so y'all could get a better look. (Hope this works.) I have done just the living room and a bit of the dining room so you could get a sense of flow. Also keep in mind that some things (like window placement) are approximate. Hope this helps. (It helps me see that there is probably not room for my wall hung desk idea in the dining room.)

groveraxle Looking at the placement of the dining room table and floorcloth, I don't think the TV placement is a problem. It is well behind what will become the natural pathway between living and dining. The only other logical place for it would be in front of that side window, also not ideal.

Kathryn Peltier Design Part of the reason I located the TV to the right of the window in the first place is that there is some kind of a chase on that wall (heat/cold air return) which gives the wall mount a bit of natural recess to begin with. Shallow shelves or a shallow cabinet could also be placed beneath the TV, again taking advantage of the recess formed by the chase, for electronics. Very early on, Rhonda's husband indicated that it could indeed be mounted there (although, once again, I don't have the dimension of that wall and my plan drawing is only approximate). Another thought I had at the time was that the TV be viewable from the kitchen, which I think it can be depending upon the type of mount used. This would work, too, from the left side of the window but it would definitely be in the way of the door - in fact, I don't think the door would open if the TV were pulled out, and since that is the main/virtually only means of ingress, that wouldn't work. Since I would assume that it would be Rhonda who would usually want to watch TV from the kitchen, and probably mostly when she's home alone, I don't think angling the TV should be a problem - unless it blocks someone trying to come in. NOW, having said all of that, if the TV does not need to be viewable from the kitchen (perhaps another smaller TV in the kitchen, if you want one, Rhonda?) and the front door is never left open, and the electronics can be shifted to the right (so that the door will open fully) then the TV could be mounted to the left of the window. Did all of that make sense?

groveraxle Two views:

groveraxle MHO, mounting the TV behind the door is a disaster waiting to happen. Even with a stop on the door. Plus, it will just look odd.

Kathryn Peltier Design G.A. - as you said, my drawing is an approximation of the right hand wall of the LR. However, if I remember correctly, the TV is 44" and we know it will fit to the right (because Mr. G said so). Here is one more idea - and one Mr. G will probably roll his eyes at - but what about making a sort of "electronics" area under the TV which could include the printer? I would have to sketch this up, but what I am thinking is that the top would be the same depth as the printer. I would imagine that dimension to be about 12" deep (Rhonda, if you will provide the dimensions I can draw this accurately), so this "shelf" would protrude another 6" into the hallway (another dimension I would need: from the last/first stair to the wall) If the printer would go on the bottom, a simple hinged door could be attached. The cable box/DVD player/whatever could go above that on an open shelf so that they could be accessed by remote control. A very slim shelf could be built at the top which could also house a closed laptop, cell phone charging station, etc. I don't know that there is room to do this with the printer included so at this point I am only surmising. Even if it were done only for the TV stuff, it could just be a small console shelf, similar to what G.A. proposed but with an open front. I think Ikea has something like that.

Kathryn Peltier Design I agree, G.A. It is a better viewing point from the sitting area since it wouldn't have to be angled there, but all things are not equal. I think, too, that the door would be an issue - always.

Kathryn Peltier Design Maybe the wall-hung desk you proposed, G.A., could go under the TV (only 11" d) with additional shelves below?

allcast Thanks for the lesson in spacing. It would seem that the space below the TV would be an great choice for the computer and electronics station. No one walks there anyway because the dining room table occupies the adjoining space. I just hope the heating below will not be a negative for all of the electronics above.

MG Mack I know Rhonda said the TV was a 46" in the beginning. I've been thinking about glare from the window when it is tilted toward the sectional also.

Kathryn Peltier Design They will have curtains. Unfortunately, the "ideal" space is taken up by a window! @allcast: I'm not sure what you mean by the heating? Is there heating below? The chase I am speaking of is in the wall, going to the 2nd floor.

allcast A table below would also protect the TV and the family (not in that order of course :)) from hitting the extended TV.

allcast OK I thought that it was connected to the heating system. My bad.

jayapple21 What are the dimensions of Rhonda's current TV table? If not too large (width especially), can it go underneath the wall hung TV? From looking at Rhonda's photos, I honestly don't think there's room for small chairs and a side table on the TV wall as you enter from outdoors, but there might be room for the old TV table under the hanging TV. The small table in the original photo can become the end-of-sofa side table.

groveraxle I will work on some ideas later today. I don't hate the TV in front of the window--it's probably a better viewing location with regard to the sectional--but putting it on the wall to the right of the window is a great use of what would otherwise be wasted space. Given all the tradeoffs, I think that's the best place for it to go.

jayapple21 g.a., I didn't mean to keep the TV where it is - in front of the window. I think it should go on the opposite wall as well and it's great that Mr. G thinks he can hang it. I just wondered if their current TV table would fit under the TV on that opposite wall to store TV equipment, maybe Rhonda's printer, etc.

Darzy Hi all... I'm really opposed to the wall mount on a swivel for a 44" television - speaking from experience.

I agree the tv under the window is not the ideal, but I think is the only logical location. I have a 31" wall mounted tv in our small guest bedroom. It sticks out a lot and swiveling makes it worse – a large tv will stick out at least 15 inches even before swiveling. The cords and wall mount apparatus will be seen from both sides and it's quite ugly. The size of Rhonda’s tv will require a dual mount arm as well which will be an even larger ugly apparatus. The electrical and cable cords will be difficult to hide. Here is a photo of the tv for our guest bedroom. I would NOT want this in my living wall space, visible from the LR and the kitchen. If the tv was going to be hung in a corner, that would be less obtrusive, but this is in a walk way area and visible from both sides

groveraxle There are other solutions, Darzy. This one is a bit pricey at $150, but I'll bet we can find something similar for less. If nothing else, perhaps the TV could sit on a very narrow console in that space. (BTW, I don't think your TV mount looks so bad.)

http://www.omnimount.com/products/tv_wall_mounts/full_motion/ledp75/

groveraxle Low profile (1.5") full-motion wall mount for $75: http://www.costco.com/WireLogic-Ultra-Thin-Full-Motion-Mount-32%22---60%22.product.11748491.html

Kathryn Peltier Design It can be boxed in, as I proposed some time ago, with just a simple 1x6 or so frame. I really don't think that putting the tv behind the front door is acceptable. Putting it in front of the opposite window doesn't make any sense either - that is just trading one bad location for another, and blocking light to boot. MOST of the time, design is about making compromise. There is very, very rarely an ideal situation when you are talking about renovation. This is a small space which must accommodate many different functions. There are givens in this room, as well obviously, that cannot be changed: the seating is opposite a window and the front door; the TV must go opposite the seating;therefore there are only 2 locations that it can go. As I said before, the ideal location would be where the window is, but it isn't because the window is there! Rhonda and her husband can play around with it when they get everything else in there - again, this is not something that has to be decided now (nor by us). Furthermore, your TV is mounted very high for viewing in a bedroom and needs to be angled down; Rhonda's on the other hand, would be mounted at seating level which would be 30-36" A.F.F. so would not be angled down at all. Yes, it will need to be angled horizontally towards the seating area, but if there was room to get around a lazy-boy chair, I think there will be room to get around a TV. Making the room 3 feet wider would be the ideal situation, but since that isn't going to happen...

This - the TV placement - was something that was decided a long time ago and on which other decisions were predicated. I'm not sure why this is a discussion again, and certainly not at this point in the project. When it comes time to install the TV in the finished room, they can decided where they would like it given their needs and how they live. They might even decide to keep in on the stand and put the whole thing at the bottom of the stairs - who knows? In the meantime, it is all just supposition for all of us.

Here is a review of wall mounts which protrude 3.1" at the most. Given that a TV is only a couple of inches, when laid flat against the wall, it should fit into the 6" or so recess created by the chase.
http://tv-wall-mounts-review.toptenreviews.com

groveraxle 19" H x 48" W x 15" D (May be too low)
$129
http://www.wayfair.com/dCOR-design-Fillmore-48-TV-Stand-GT-4591-XSN1077.html

Darzy Kathryn...I'm bringing it up so Rhonda and Mr G will make informed decisions. Installing a bracket that allows enough tilt to see from the kitchen will stick out a LOT! The flush mount bracket you propose only allows for 15-20% angle and the purpose of the wall mount was to view from the kitchen, which is not possible with your proposal. If the tv will be mounted "at eye level" why not simply put the tv on a console as groveraxle's last photo? Then, the slight swivel needed for couch viewing is probably already with their current tv base. Then, the need to install electrical and cable cords on the wall (or try to hide them) will not be an issue.

I agree with you a tv under a window is not ideal, but it is done frequently in spaces such as Rhonda's. It doesn't look like there is enough space for accent chairs on that wall, so perhaps the tv under the window for optimum tv viewing from the sofa is the best location. Also, with the tv there, Rhonda may be able to put a small accent chair angled where you want the tv.

BTW...just because a decision was made a long time ago to hang the tv on the wall there doesn't mean it was a good decision.

furrytoes Rhonda, I think your loyal followers are starting to suffer withdrawal symptoms, since almost all of the planning for the downstairs has been accomplished. I agree with Kathyrn P.D. -- don't buy anything else until the furniture you've purchased is in place.
So, here's my humble suggestion, Rhonda: give your fans another project to work on. Kathyrn P.D. has already found the curtains at Ikea, but the top-down-bottom-up woven wood shades are still needed. Would you like someone to design a super-efficient plan for your stairway closet? How about decorating your enclosed front porch area as a great "welcome home" space? Or maybe pictures and dimensions of your soon-to-be-vacated son's room, that will become a guest room/office/hobby room/cake-decorating room/playroom/etc. room?
It shows how fond of you everyone has become, and how much everyone enjoys helping such a wonderful family. You have a large cheerleading team!

Darzy On the other hand, if Rhonda and Mr G do not mind the bracket style required to be able to extend out from the wall far enough to swivel the tv for kitchen viewing, so be it. I just wanted them to know that the cords and brackets will be visible, even when pushed "flush" against the wall. A 44" television will extend out from the wall at least 47" to view from the kitchen.

MG Mack OR exchange the couch for a love seat. Put the TV on the opposite wall...toward the other window so it can be angled anywhere without causing problems. With the extra money saved on the couch buy a couple of comfy chairs and voila! :D

Darzy Rhonda, I've been thinking about your want/need for a place for your laptop and printer...Is there enough space on the blank wall in the kitchen on the left of your back door to do a small floating type desk? Here is an idea, but it would be great if it could be a little bit longer to fit both easily. You could hang your kitty print above the "desk". :)

Darzy Hi MG... the tv where you propose would solve the kitchen viewing delimma but I think Rhonda is committed to the sectional sofa she loves.

groveraxle Darzy, you are wrong about the degree of motion for the low profile mounts. The one from Costco says: "To accommodate the widest viewing range and angle, the sturdy arms allow a 40° pan as well as 2°/+7° of tilt."

Darzy groveraxle...I was referring to Kathyrn's flush mount choices. But, 40 degrees is not enough angle to view into the kitchen either.

suzanne_m Something puzzles me: I don't really understand how Rhonda can watch tv from the kitchen if the tv is on the right of the window (which BTW I find is the best place for it). I don't have a wall mount tv at home but groveraxle says that the tv mount from Costco turns up to 40 degrees. I don't think 40 degrees is enough to see the tv from the kitchen. Am I missing something?

MG Mack We all know that changing gears to make things work is required more often than not. Rhonda and her husband will consider the pros and cons of the options I'm sure. I personally would not like a 44 or 46 inch TV sticking out from the wall. And I know Rhonda loves the sectional Darzy. :D I was kind of being a smarta**! lol

Kathryn Peltier Design @Darzy: I'm so sorry you feel "my" decision was a poor one. Everyone who has been part of this discussion from the beginning (or nearly) had ample time to weigh in on this a long time ago. I would not have proposed the location had I not thought it would work there. On the other hand, I would NEVER suggest a TV in front of a window when there is another available location. I don't care where they put it ultimately - it is up to them and what works best for them. That is the whole point! If that is in front of the window - great! I space plan and design for a living and people disagree with my ideas all the time - it's part of the process of finding what works best for a client. I'm not saying that my design or my opinion is the only one that matters - of course it's not. . There are over 2,000 posts here, so obviously a lot of people have proposed ideas and designs which have been utilized. Rhonda's is the only opinion that matters. The problem as I see it - and why I am weighing in again here - is that people keep second-guessing decisions which have already been made by RHONDA - not by ME - and then it makes her second guess herself. What you are opposed to and what I may be opposed to doesn't matter; it's what Rhonda and her husband ultimately want that matters, and what works best for them. If they want to keep the stand (which Rhonda said at the beginning she wanted to get rid of), then so be it; that's fine. It's something that can wait until they get everything else in place, though, and I think it should wait. They will have a much better feel for the room when the furniture is in place. Darzy, I understand that you have concerns about this issue, and I understand why, but there is no perfect nor correct answer here. It just seems like so many of these discussions lately just upset the apple cart - when the apple cart isn't even in the picture yet. I've politely given my opinion and will refrain from further comment on this topic.

@MGMack: the sectional has been purchased.

Kathryn Peltier Design P.S, I don't even know that Rhonda WANTS to watch TV from the kitchen. It was something I just had in the back of my mind at the very beginning, since the original location in front of the window allowed that. No, 40 degrees will not accommodate that. I don't know if there is a wall-mount bracket that will.

As far as a 46"TV sticking out from the wall, it will do that whether it is wall mount or on a stand unless it blocks the window. That is the bottom line.

groveraxle suzanne, you are correct that 40° is not enough to make the TV viewable from the kitchen. But it's plenty to make viewing comfortable from the living room.

MG Mack Just a follow-up purchased doesn't mean it can't be exchanged. It is very large for the space. A fact I mentioned long ago. But I am not a space planning expert and it was made clear that others were keeping track of measurements. I also mentioned a problem with the TV long ago. I do agree that it is ultimately the homeowner's choice on all issues and they have to live with the end result. But I don't think it's right to keep tight-lipped if there is something someone thinks they will dislike. Perhaps people have mentioned problems and/or options that the homeowners have not yet thought of. I originally suggested positioning the TV in the corner, to the left of where it was in the first photos to avoid potential problems. I believe Rhonda mentioned they liked to watch the television from the breakfast nook.

allcast Rhonda, could you please tell me where all of your photos are stored? I think you mentioned it before but I can't find them. You must be thrilled and overwhelmed by all of this passionate help. You have done a fabulous job of sifting through it all and selecting your own look. You have done a tremendous job so far!

groveraxle allcast, if you click on Rhonda's username, it will take you to her profile and her ideabooks and discussions.

allcast Thanks @groveraxle. Maybe someone can help me, I'm terribly inept at posting pictures. I went back to Rhonda's original pictures and I think I saw a cuckoo clock along what used to be the kitchen wall. I remembered seeing a cuckoo clock that was completely painted the color white, giving it a very modern look. It can be seen at http://heirloomphilosophy.blogspot.com/2012_02_01_archive.html It might be fun in your favorite color of red and also add a little family history to your now modern space.

Darzy Kathryn.. Yes, you were the one with the idea of wall mounting the tv and put on a swivel so Rhonda can watch tv from the kitchen a long time ago. There was no point in bringing up the potential problems with that option when the floor cloth, backsplash and art was the topic of conversation. Sooo, now is the time to bring up the tv install. You NOW say you don't think any wall-mount bracket can accommodate kitchen viewing. I rest my case. So, yes, I think your decision to try mount a 44" telelvision on that wall to angle towards the kitchen was a poor one.

No one is trying to upset the apple cart and of course it's Rhonda's decision! There are two options, under the window or on the right (I too prefer not under a window but Rhonda wants an accent chair in the room). I've just pointed out to Rhonda the pitfalls of a wall mount bracket.

If Rhonda would like to frame out the tv and with just enough depth to be able to pivot for tv viewing on the sofa and hide the brackets/cords, I think that is a great design option but a console will still be needed for the electronics.

You don't need to remind us that some decisions should wait until some things are in place. Some of us have been saying that for weeks!

Kathryn Peltier Design @MGMack - Understood. Totally. I agree that it's not necessarily right to keep tight-lipped about something, but at the same time, I don't understand the need to keep rehashing decisions. Absolutely decisions can be changed and can be fluid, but simply stating concerns is enough. It really doesn't seem necessary to me to make something that will work - albeit perhaps not the choice that person would make - into an issue. At some point, the homeowner's decision has to be respected. OK, enough.

The sectional was the homeowner's choice and was picked out pretty much right at the beginning because it met her criteria: it provides a lot of seating, it is in dark colors so that the men's work tarnish (don't know if that's the right word) won't stain/dirty it so much; it came from a local store; the price was right; and most importantly - she likes it. They had a full-size sofa and two large recliner-type chairs in there before.Someone - not me - at the beginning suggested a sectional and she liked that idea. So, we have been working with Rhonda's choice from the beginning and actually I think the sectional fills the space nicely and cleanly and makes up for those large chairs. In 111" plus the additional 50" or so of the right angle of the chaise, they should be able to easily fit 6+ people during a party. Those big chairs were in the middle of the walkway before, so even if Rhonda puts a small chair against the outside wall, it will still be loads more navigable than it was. They just need more seating than a loveseat will provide. Even with a loveseat and two additional chairs, that would only be seating for 4. The sectional, too, allows the grandchildren to spread out on it. I know what you're saying, but I am just supporting Rhonda's reasons.

Kathryn Peltier Design Good for you Darzy - right again. OK ONE MORE TIME: I suggested the TV be mounted on the wall, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay at the beginning so that it would take one more item out of the floor space. So shoot me. The swivel to the kitchen, was as I said, something that was not part of the programming but was something I thought could be nice. If that doesn't work, then it doesn't work OR THE TV COULD GO IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW. Since the TV location drove a lot of what happened in terms of SPACE PLANNING - not decoration as in art (really?) - that WAS the time to bring it up. So either it really didn't concern you at the time or you're being disingenuous now. Go for it - put the freaking TV wherever you want it.

Kevin Retired Decorator Quite honestly if the TV was mounted flat against the wall and not on a swing arm , it should be able to be seen by all the spots of seating on the sectional. I have nearly the same set up as Rhonda and it works perfectly. My TV is at eye level sitting down. I LOL when I see TV's high on the wall like in a hospital. They do that so people can walk under it to not block the TV and are laying down. I'm sure the TV will work as planned many months ago. Note Rhonda isn't saying a word. If it was a problem for her I feel she would post a comment.

MG Mack Kathryn, I think you missed the part where I said I was kidding about the love seat. ;)

Darzy Holy Smokes Kathryn...shoot you? That's just silly. Space planning?? The LR space plan was pretty much determined when Rhonda wanted the big sectional in the corner early on. The tv would either go under the window or on the right of the window. It's that simple. "Go for it -put the freaking TV whever you want it"?? My goodness..it's Rhonda's decision. Why are you upset that I pointed out wall brackets for tv's are not attractive IMO and swiveling to the kitchen won't work. It's not a personal affront to you and the concept is great -it just won't work in Rhonda's space.

How can you think I'm being disingenuous? I've been here since the beginning. and have posted personal photos so Rhonda can visualize options. Some people are tight-lipped for fear of offending you. And it seems they are right.

I apologize if I have offended you. I admit I got pissy but you drew first blood. :)

nikitasmom I have a multi armed full motion wall mount for a 60" led tv. It can be pulled away from the wall and almost be completely rotated to face any side. It sticks out 7" and is a bit of a pain to work with. A mount with a 26" extension arm would allow for tv veiwing in the kitchen Even the dining room wall where the air conditioner is could be considered a possible location. But this all really comes down to what Rhonda and her husband not only want for their design but for their lifestyle. An example of wallmount but this one only holds 88lbs
http://www.displays2go.com/Product.aspx?ID=18129

groveraxle Is this the cuckoo? Pretty cool.

suzanne_m groveraxle, it is coooool. You can see Rhonda's cuckoo in her second picture left upper corner. Good eye allcast. Nice suggestion to paint it in red. Let's see if Rhonda likes it too.

Kevin Retired Decorator I love the white painted clock, it makes a contemporary statement and could be used on the art wall above the sectional with a new look and add depth to the wall grouping and budget friendly.

allcast Yes, thank you. You are my techie guru:)

suzanne_m Kevin, are you thinking about painting it white? I was thinking maybe in red and place in her kitchen with her other red accessories.

jayapple21 Well, I don't know if Rhonda has any plans for her cuckoo clock, but I have one that was a gift to my family when an uncle came back from Germany in WWII. It's just been taking up space on a wall in a bedroom and now you've given me a great idea! I never thought of painting it but I love the image in groveraxle's photo. I think we're all benefitting from this site. Thanks!

Kathryn Peltier Design My apologies to all of you posters here. I am sorry that I have let this latest exchange get to me in this way but I am tired - not of the discussion but of the attitude. I have tried to be polite and civil and helpful from the beginning and I appreciate EVERYONE'S input when delivered with the same spirit. As I said, I brainstorm and ideate and throw things out and bring things in and disagree and agree every day - it does not bother me. It's a part of - no, it really IS - the process. Everyone has an idea and everyone has an opinion, and as you can imagine, in real life, there are a substantial number of client (or other's) opinions with which I don't agree. I always try to diplomatically get my point of view across and sell my idea, and if it doesn't work, it doesn't. Then we work with their idea; it is their home after all. No problem. I sit at my desk with my computer on for a good part of most days while I work so I am able to respond to discussions on Houzz. I enjoy it because it can be so varied and it makes me think, and I have enjoyed Rhonda's project more than any other because she has really taken part and been so open to so much. Kudos to Rhonda.

I have worked steadily in design since I graduated from the University of Michigan 30+ years ago and have been the lead designer on major hospital projects, corporate projects and a multitude of other projects around the country. I have worked for architectural firms, as a facility planner, as an in-house designer - you name it. I consider myself, first and foremost, a space planner. For the past 15+ years, I have primarily done kitchen and bathroom design which I really fell into because my own kitchen - the first I had ever designed - was featured on the cover of a magazine. I enjoy it and it is right for me right now. I don't say this to toot my own horn, but only to explain that I have many, many years of experience and I am not some fly-by-night operator. I put thought and effort into what I say and what I propose on Houzz just as I would for any of my own projects. This is someone's home, this is someone's money (and substantial money). I never forget that. I also say this by way of explaining that if I was so intransigent as some seem to think, I never would have gotten this far, believe me. If you think there is disagreement here, you should sit in a design team meeting lol!

I am active on Houzz because I am at heart a problem solver. I try to do my best, so when I am denigrated for not making good decisions - seriously, I take great exception. Whatever my idea, I assure you it was the one I thought best. Does that mean it's the best and that there isn't a better one? No, of course not, but if there is a better one, then persuade me that it's better. I have never in my life gotten anyone to agree with me by belittling their idea or telling them it's bad. All I ask is for a bit of respect, but I guess for some, it's the internet and they can behave how they want. I have actually had people on this site contact me privately because they are so appalled at the comments that are made on some discussions that they don't want to put themselves out there. I find that a very sad comment in so many ways.

Again, I apologize because I know I have made this uncomfortable. This is really not like me (the internet again?) but I will not be treated rudely when I am trying to provide professional advice in a respectful way. I certainly hope that no one is afraid to post here because they are afraid of offending ME (and how would anyone know that?) I am really out-to-lunch if that is the case. If it is then, "holy smokes", I would be more than happy to bow out.

Kevin Retired Decorator I like the white clock color best but red or black would work to in any room.

jhperree Paint paneling, trim white....you'll be amazed.

Kevin Retired Decorator LOL still ? Paint the paneling !! I guess it will have to be put back up. Hehee

groveraxle Kathryn, you have been the heart and soul of this project--well, right behind Rhonda--but this would never have gotten this far or be this great without you. I am confident that you are giving the best advice you can, and I know that it is based on a wealth of knowledge and experience that the rest of us plainly do not have. I also know that there are tradeoffs in any design and that Rhonda is the one to make the tradeoffs based on the actual space and their lifestyle.

Don't even think about bowing out. I'll work on my photoshop skills and see if I can find a way for us all to have a group hug.

MG Mack g.a. I think you hit the nail on the head. No one has wanted to question Kathryn at all or offend her because she has been "at the helm" of this project. I have tried to handle things tactfully and have not taken offense when being ignored or someone doesn't like my suggestions. I also bear in mind how many times Rhonda has been swayed away from the things she likes. I certainly would have questioned the pillow-backed couch because I think the pillows are a pain. I would have looked into the size restrictions more closely but I didn't want to when it was an area being covered by someone else. Personally, I just know if all of my family were to get together, one sectional and a side chair would not be efficient or comfortable. So, value my commentary or not, it is with the best of intentions that I make it. I think it's safe to say everyone wants Rhonda to be happy with her choices.

mellika Hoping, that by commenting, I'll be able to see Rhonda's idea book with more pictures. Great job Rhonda.

Kathryn Peltier Design Thank you, G.A. I appreciate that, I really do. It has been a group effort and everyone has contributed. Every idea brings another idea and Rhonda's project is richer for it. You have spent so much time on your montages, you don't need to spend any more: I will go with an even more virtual hug than even photoshop lol! :-)

nikitasmom Even if it isn't for Rhonda it could come in handy for someones elses dilema. I just find visual aids easier than words sometimes. Around the corner tv mount video and pictures. http://www.electronx.net/category/portfolio/

rhondagoodwin Okay after coming home from work and reading all the post from today, here goes, whether it be the right decision or not the TV is being wall mounted. I really appreciate everyone's input, but hubby has the last say and the wires have already been run up thru the wall. Unfortunately it will be a little higher than eye level. We have also already purchased the mount... The Cheetah mount had great reviews ( Product Features
VERY SUBSTANTIAL MOUNT, HEAVY GAUGE STEEL
DUAL ARMS EXTEND TO 20.5", FOLD TO LESS THAN 4.25"
180 DEGREE SWIVEL, +-15 DEGREE TILT
UNIVERSAL DESIGN FITS MOST 32-65" DISPLAYS UP TO 165LBS
INSTALLATION MANUAL AND ALL HARDWARE INCLUDED )

And they had a wall mountable component holder.

We don't have company very often so I believe this is going to work fine.

And if need be it can be pushed against the wall to get it out of the way.

Hopefully everyone leaves here tonight friends, I hate being the reason for upsets.
And trust me I weed thru everyone of these post, and take everyone's ideas into consideration.
Thank you all so much.

Kathryn Peltier Design @MGMack - I am sorry that you have felt that way. Furthermore, I have always felt that this was a group project - look at all the people who have been on here for months and have contributed so much. I have never been offended by anyone's ideas; I am only offended when someone denigrates mine and one comment in particular meant that I had bitten my tongue for the last time. I have never belittled anyone and I don't appreciate it, to say the least. There is no room for it. I have learned as much from this site as anyone; there is always something new to learn and I learn from everyone. I don't think that I have swayed Rhonda from things she likes, but at the same time, isn't the job of the designer to help the client make decisions which will contribute to the big picture? On the other hand, for instance, I tend to agree with you about loose pillows, but that was the sectional that appealed to Rhonda and I support that. I believe in speaking out about things which are obviously going to clash but I want nothing more than for Rhonda to be happy and to pick out things which represent her taste and her lifestyle. Every one of us has a different home situation but the thing is, it doesn't make a difference whether Rhonda has a family of 4 or a family of 50; she only has so much room to work with.

I do apologize if I have manhandled Rhonda's project. It was certainly not my intent.

allcast Ditto G.A..:) BTW I found another old picture of the cuckoo clock, in one of the 1st 500 postings. It seems older than I thought, so Rhonda should check the value before painting it.

Kathryn Peltier Design Much ado about nothing, Rhonda - as usual, you have been on this and solved the problem! You are not the reason for anything but appreciation and good wishes.

Kathryn Peltier Design @nikitasmom: That is so cool!!! I am bookmarking it for future use. Where there's a will there's a way (and here is my something-new-learned today :-)

groveraxle Rhonda, you made a great choice with the mount and component storage. Good on you!

rhondagoodwin By the way... Thought you all would get a laugh out of this... If you think the TV will be in the way being mounted on the wall right of the window, you should have seen where I stopped him from getting ready to put the wall mount... The TV would have been sitting half in the living room and half in the dining room... :)

Kathryn as you have told me when I was ready to bail out... Hang in there.
Remember all final decisions are mine whether they are right or wrong, I have to live with it and all you all can. Do is cringe silently... LOL
You all have been wonderful.

Kathryn Peltier Design I think the cuckoo would look great on the LR wall,too, painted or not. Has that been said? I've lost my place lol. It's a very nice piece!

rhondagoodwin Allcast, the coo-coo clock was handed down to me from my grandmother... Not sure how old it is but I know it is older than 75 years.

Kathryn Peltier Design Rhonda, you are a gem and I have not cringed once! Oh, and btw, cover your ears gentlemen, but it's always better when women supervise lol (don't let Mr. G read this comment or he'll post a Stop-work order!) :-D

rhondagoodwin He's not aloud too, I told him he can't even die until my house is done... LOL. Gotta love him.

allcast As I've said in the past, every room needs some history. I love that you got it from your grandmother. If it was mine I would have a hard time painting it. But I would find a prominent place for it..family, history and dimension...all in one!

groveraxle OMG, Rhonda, look what I found when I took the drapes off your dining room windows. What a transformation! It's even better than we thought!

Kathryn Peltier Design Oh, G.A. I need that view too!!! Forget the blinds!

groveraxle And in keeping with the bird theme:

Darzy Kathryn...nobody has questioned your credentials. I really do not see how I was rude or belittle you simply because I disagreed with the articulating arm wall mount television? Frankly, you were rude to me insinuating I was not being genuine because I didn't mention it earlier. Earlier, Madeline was afraid to mention the coffee table selection and apparently MG felt her ideas were ignored or poo-poo'd as well. I am a nice person and in no way do I use the "internet" to be mean or bully anyone. You took waaayy too much offense. You attacked my character and implied I'm trying to "upset the apple cart" when your decision is already "final".

And yes, you have been "at the helm" and ignoring other's good suggestions. I think you need to get off your high horse. Okay, now I'm being mean. But I can't bite my tongue any longer. I would like to say EVERYONE appreciates the time and effort you have put into this project. But, please respect other's opinions and ideas as well.

I too have professional experience but do not feel the need to tout them on a website where everyone is equal and I'm not looking to build clients from Houzz.

Rhonda, I'm very happy you have found a good tv solution for you! The suggestions and your ideas have been quite good and your final decisions have been super. I look forward to seeing the final result.

groveraxle BTW, Rhonda, someone near and dear to you is hiding in that last dining room pic.

peginvalpo Wow! Way to mediate! I love you ladies. Just when I thought the ball dropped and was rolling down the street, calm minds regrouped! This is such an uplifting process you have let so many of us be a part of. Albeit,like a fly on the wall. What will we do when it's complete, Rhonda? Bless you all.

groveraxle Rhonda, RHONDAAAAAAAAAA.... (why do I feel like Stanley Kowalski calling for Stella?)

If you've made any other final decisions, perhaps you should tell us now before we go off half-cocked. Backsplash decided? Drapes and bamboo blinds decided? Do you still want a printer stand by the air conditioner? Do you need computer storage? Cafe curtains?

Kathryn Peltier Design And It goes on and on and on. This is not the first time. I am not on here 24/7 so tell me, exactly which suggestions did I ignore or poo-poo? Furthermore, I am not the warden here nor the arbiter of Rhonda's taste so why would you even say I have ignored someone? Haven't others ignored the same posts? Obviously, or this thread would be 10,000 posts long at least. So what is your point exactly? I have given my opinion on some things and I have stayed out of it on others. Gosh, Darzy, I think you've even ignored my posts so what does that make you by your own "logic"?. I did not pick out the coffee table BTW, not that it matters because it's just another pot to stir, right? NONE of the decisions are mine. big or otherwise. If you have problems with Rhonda's selections, which apparently you do since they've "already been made" why don't you tell her? I live probably 500 miles from Rhonda so trust me: I haven't purchased anything, broken into her house and made her keep it. I am not looking for clients - in fact, the thought hadn't even occurred to me until someone contacted me - and apparently you don't read because I posted my credentials so that no one would think I'm a JC Penney curtain salesperson, mouthing off about something I don't know a thing about, OK? THAT was the point.

I took "waaaay too much offense"? Gee, another thing you're "opposed to" apparently.

My horse is a Shetland pony compared to yours.

Kathryn Peltier Design @peginvalpo: sorry to disappoint. It almost worked but once again, I took the bait. I'm taking a sabbatical and going to hang out at the stable. There will be less to wade through.

vacox Groveraxle, I see that little guy....

Kevin Retired Decorator Hey Darzy, I'm curious what is your back ground in design ? Have you been holding out on us ? LOL You do have some interesting points and questions. Just love to know as a FYI ? You should update your profile. K

Laurie Roots g.a. -you are a hoot!

Darzy Kathryn...the pony comment is very funny. Pleeasee.. we disagreed about the tv wall mount arm. That's it. The "coffee table" comment was only an illustration when Madeline was afraid to comment and she said she "exhaled" when she finally did comment. Not that you selected it. Don't read more into it than it is. We know you're not a JC Penney curtain salesperson! (not that a curtain salesperson can't have great ideas). Your ideas and suggestions have been invaluable. I just got defensive when you "drew first blood" saying my comment's intention were only to upset the apple cart and being disingenuine.

This is silly. We both want a great space for Rhonda. Let's get over our spat, shake hands and move on.

peginvalpo @KPD hey, no prob! Really, sometimes the air needs to be cleared, even if it isn't pretty. I have faith in all of you! This house is a transformation and that is definitely emotional! Bottom line, beautiful house, for a lovely family.

Darzy Kevin, I used to stage homes professionally for sale and I don't want to "toot" my horn but every home I've staged sold within two weeks. I too know a bit about space planning, design and showing a home in it's "best light". I am not looking for clients (my husband and I are semi retired) so I have no need to advertise on my profile page. I suppose I could update the page so my ideas may get more "respect". But, there are so many Houzzers that deserve a lot of respect without the "professional experience" or ASID behind their name. I, like Kathryn, comment on Houzz because it gets the creative juices flowing.

If I was staging Rhonda's home for sale it would be quite different. But, Rhonda is not selling and they want to make it pretty and comfortable for them. She is well on her way to doing just that!

groveraxle FWIW, I quite like the cuckoo clock on the other side of the bird canvas. If it's an appropriate size, that is. I think it relates well to the wood mirror and I think the bird theme is kind of clever. Now if we can just work the kitty canvas in somehow we'll have some real excitement in the room. ;-)

乾坤设计室 I agree with you smgolf12 about ordering the art. One decision leads to another change in the plan.

suzanne_m Sorry the cuckoo clock is not working for me in the living room beside the sunburst and the painting. I find it is 3 things too much different and shows no cohesion :(

allcast I think I agree with @Suzanne_m. The clock doesn't complement the other 2 items. I could see it on the dining room wall, maybe next to the window/air conditioner.

Lynne Forrestal kitty could be on a table easel watching LOL

Kevin Retired Decorator That's why painting the cuckoo clock would work if painted white so it would fit the room decor Other wise I feel it wouldn't. The white would go with the white trim & curtains. For a eclectic look. imho

suzanne_m How big is the kitty frame?

rhondagoodwin The coo-coo clock is very fragile. The chains are rusty and it is one of those 24 hour jobs that you pull one chain down all the way for it to run, so the chains are very long... To the floor on one side. I really don't think it will be going back up down stairs. Maybe the middle bedroom, just so I can keep it.
Cafe curtains will be used in the dining room.
As far as everything else... I am waiting, to pick out a accent chair and table for in front of the window.
Things have slowed down around here. My husband just finished sheet rocking the ceiling.
And we are having the island countertop changed. The counter the installed has so many defects, where it was not polished correctly and has a lot of raw stone lines that make it look horribly used already. ( I can't live with that) so we are having a quartz top installed in galaxy white.
Also I wanted to let you all know that the front porch door, will eventually open towards the porch. My husband said he could do that, so if we do get two accent chairs it will not interfere.

I hope everyone is calm now and has a lovely day... I take everyone's comments into consideration.
Everyone has different taste and I find a little something from everyone.

You all have been a great help and inspiration.
@groveraxle... Maybe I should plant some palm trees and put an in ground pool in my side yard... LOL
Well in my dreams.
I saw my maltipoo behind the chair. Your amazing, I wish I could do that with photos...
Maybe I will hire you to collage a picture of all my favorite photos of my grandchildren and have it put on canvas and that could be my art for the opposite wall by the door.

suzanne_m Can the cuckoo clock be on the wall to the left of the kitchen door?

groveraxle OK on the cafe curtains, but nothing froufrou, please. I can't find anything modern that fits with your new decor, so I propose a tension rod and clips from which to hang cute tea towels or hemmed fabric. Here are a couple of mock ups with some cute towels I found, and some cafe curtains from around the houzz.

concordhome I agree - nothing with ruffles - just straight panels using rings or perhaps tabs.

Kathryn Peltier Design Ikea has a very inexpensive, good looking curtain sold by the pair, so it's no big deal, $$$ wise, to cut them down. I suggested to Rhonda that perhaps her cousin would just re-hem them for her. These could be used for the full curtains, too. It says they let light in but provide privacy. http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00221539/

I like the idea of the tea towels, too, though because it would bring some color/pattern into play, especially if the window seat fabric won't be there. There are so many great patterns available in tea towels. They could just be used with a black rod and clip cafe rings (Ikea has these, too, I think) and then there wouldn't be any sewing at all!

groveraxle My bad. Here are some ready-made cafe curtains that might work and might even be less expensive than the tea towel idea:

http://www.countrycurtains.com/product/011150168+laurel+check+tier+curtains.do?sortby=ourPicks

http://www.countrycurtains.com/product/010125737+ticking+stripes+tier+curtains.do?sortby=ourPicks

http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/park-b-smith-window-treatments-ticking-stripe-collection?ID=539885

Also, to get that clean line, I would steer away from anything with a rod pocket because they tend to look all bunchy. Rings and clips, tab tops, or grommets will give you a more streamlined look.

groveraxle The advantage with tea towels is you can change them out whenever a whim strikes you. The disadvantage: they can be expensive.

Grommet curtains are so easy to make, and with Stitch Witchery, you don't even need to sew. Clip curtains are even easier. Rhonda's cousin could just hem a couple of panels of her favorite fabric and she could clip them up.

I think a bold black and white large graphic, maybe in a border print would look great.

groveraxle Possible curtain fabrics:

oneofeleven You know guys, it sounds to me like Rhonda knows what she wants on her dining room windows. What if she likes ruffles? Previous comments read (at least to me) like directives as opposed to suggestions. Yes? No?
@Kathryn, I liked your suggestion re: Ikea as their drapes are well made, inexpensive and suitable for alteration.
Rhonda, congrats to your husband on completion of the ceiling. I imagine you must be feeling some relief as the end draws near. You sound like a very patient person with a good heart.

groveraxle You're right, oneofeleven. I was trying to sound bossy in a jokey sort of way. Hard to do in this virtual world without body language or facial expressions. And frankly, I suspect Rhonda doesn't really need us anymore. I've come to have confidence in her decisions and, I think, so has she. It's nice of her to humor us, though, since we're all so invested in this project and look forward to each reveal.

concordhome Perhaps it was me oneofeleven was pointing the finger at. I was only pointing out that "I" feel like ruffles seem more country and nothing Rhonda has picked so far seems in the least country. Although, like you oneofeleven, I truly feel Rhonda should choose what she likes. There I go again trying to make a suggestion even though I'm not a professional and have admitted it many times. Aren't we lucky there is always someone here to keep us in line. I'm done.

Kathryn Peltier Design I am not sure what is going on here. Being professional has nothing to do with anything (unless you are being trashed and feel the need to defend yourself). If people feel I have been out of line, I truly apologize.I guess if I have seemed officious in some way, it was just an attempt to keep everything focused when it sometimes seemed to be spinning in a million directions. My whole problem with some of these discussions is not about whether I have agreed with the poster or not, but the fact that if seems SO disrespectful to Rhonda when people keep second-guessing every decision she has already made (and I'm not talking about the curtains in the past few posts). I'm not sure if I am part of this cafe curtain conversation or not...but I agree with concordhome: I don't think ruffles work!

I agree that Rhonda is moving right along and doesn't really need much, if any, input any more. I guess she just needed a little nudge in the beginning to find her direction and then she was off and running. Just like Dorothy "She had it in her all along". She has selected everything from all the suggestions made, and she has done a great job.

Maybe it's spring fever. We all need to get outside and get some fresh air until it's time for Rhonda's virtual reveal party!

MG Mack Kathryn I think that last comment is truly unfair. You have second-guessed Rhonda's decisions as much as anyone. And Darzy's initial comments about the wall mount were not inflammatory. If you have years of experience I'm sure you have pointed out things that your client loves that just won't work and that is a requirement. People who don't need guidance don't hire people or ask for help with projects like this. You have spoken as if you're defending Rhonda from something. No one is disrespecting her and no one has attacked you. Second-guessing is something a homeowner has to do...sometimes third and fourths are in order. Especially when walls are going down and being built. No one has even mentioned focal point, balance, harmony within this design which are design basics. I just wanted to clear that up so Rhonda, knows she is absolutely not being disrespected when people bring pertinent information to light. I certainly do not want you to change your mind on your sectional choice unless YOU find that something else might work better. And if you can't exchange it, obviously it will work. But Rhonda has not indicated one way or another to my knowledge. Many of us have been listening to you speak for Rhonda, Kathryn. And I do agree again g.a. online is a tough venue. I have often made tongue-in-cheek comments and have made comments with a grin on my face only to find that they were taken out of context. I am a very light-hearted, easy-going person. Anyone who actually knows me in person likes my sense of humor. So with that, my break is over. (concordhome, ruffles and roosters and cows were trending about 20 yrs ago so I'm kinda' with you on that) Good luck all...no more comments about optimizing the space from me. (Rhonda, my apologies if you felt I disrespected you in any way. It was unintentional.)

concordhome Kathryn - I don't believe this had anything to do with you. It does seem that no one can have an idea or an opinion without someone else having to call us on the carpet about it. I have been keeping up and I don't believe a decision has yet been made about the dining room curtains. You know - this is suppose to be fun - and it has been for a very long time but it just seems - especially after the exchanges last night - that we all do need to get outside and take a deep breath - possible here now since most of the pollen is finally gone and they trees are almost full. I'm going out of town for the weekend and hope to come back with a new attitude. You kids play nice.

Dana Veach Kathryn...I'm not sure at all how to leave a private comment for someone on Houzz...but I just wanted to say that I think you've handled this whole conflict thing on Rhonda's thread with amazing patience and aplomb...I personally would have "lost it" long ago. I have been continually amazed that you and others such as Kevin and G. A., in particular, have offered your time and talents so freely to give Rhonda access to choices she might not otherwise have had in order to achieve the home she wants...and she's done a super job of editing it all and making the end result a place that reflects her own taste and creativity. I feel that the recent criticism leveled at you has been unwarranted, and I, for one, truly appreciate your expertise and generous input. Even if I haven't always found your suggestions agreeing with my personal taste, I recognize that it is ultimately Rhonda's taste that matters, and the spirit in which you have contributed has seemed perpetually generous. Thank you!

suzanne_m Dana, I completely agree with what you have said. So I am glad that you had said it publicly. But if it helps you, for the future, you can contact someone privately but clicking on her name in one of her comments. This will bring you to her page then you will see a big green button called Contact me on the upper right corner. You can click on that button and send a private message. I believe not all houzzers have that button. I think, it is there only if the houzzer agreed to give possibilities to others to contact them.

Dana Veach Thank you so much, Suzanne...I appreciate your help!

Large Rugs & Carpets I would draw attention to the floors with a large design scale Oriental Rug such as Heriz carpets or Mehrivan

http://largerugscarpets.com/large-rugs/persian-rugs/heriz-rugs/

http://largerugscarpets.com/large-rugs/persian-rugs/mehrivan-rugs/

groveraxle Rhonda says she comes home from work and reads through all the new comments. I suspect what is most useful to her are suggestions, links, rationales for using or not using a piece of furniture or apparatus, and pictures. From these, she can decide what she likes, discard what she doesn't, just like working with a real designer...well, except this designer happens to have multiple personalities. ;-)

So until she actually chooses and buys dining room curtains, I suggest every idea is valid. Rather than squabble, let's just present our suggestions, agreements, and disagreements along with our reasoning (because it might bring up something she hadn't thought of), and Rhonda can make her choice.

It has really worked well so far. When I think of some of the creative solutions that have come from this group--the kitchen design, Rhonda's own backsplash design, and the custom floorcloth, to name three--I realize how remarkable this crowd-sourcing has been. So instead of taking our disagreements personally, let's use them to come up with even better solutions for the rest.

allcast I have followed this thread for months, almost from the beginning, and have been continually impressed with the care and consideration that everyone has shown each other. I just spent the time to reread the comments that started over 24 hours ago and where did this go wrong? There is no denying that Katherine has developed a special relationship with Rhonda and this is reciprocated because Rhonda often asks her, specifically, for her opinion. Katherine has been very honest, yet accepting when other choices are made. I've never seen her question choices that Rhonda or Mr. G have settled upon. Many others have been extremely active about offering advice, shopping suggestions and visuals (GA, you're a gem). How lucky Rhonda is to have such interest and how lucky we are that she shares it all with us! Someone has to be the hero here and be the first one not to mention this soap opera going forward.........and now a word from our sponsor......

oneofeleven thanks for your help Large rugs & carpets .......wink, wink!

Kathryn Peltier Design @concordhome: Our trees have not leafed out yet, but probably will have by the end of the week. Enjoy your weekend - we all need a good one!

@MGMack: I do not understand. Rhonda has purchased items that SHE likes - not you, not me - and yes, I will repeat myself: I think it IS disrespectful to her to keep rehashing it and nitpicking HER choices to death. Wouldn't you feel badly if every single choice you'd made was then dissected and examined over and over and over again, weeks later, and after other decisions had been made based on the first? That is what I am saying. If something was TRULY out of order, that would be one thing, but just because it isn't your taste or my taste or anyone else's taste is another matter altogether and really isn't relevant. It is never relevant. And as for second-guessing Rhonda, the ONLY time that I have really done that was in the very beginning when she and her husband had picked out and purchased some furniture that didn't work well together. So yes: I told her it wouldn't work well. Since then I have done what everyone else has done: presented ideas, suggested products and responded to whatever she has put forth for input. As for focal point, balance and harmony, I'm not sure what your point is. That is part of the intrinsic design - of which we've all been a part - and isn't something that I would normally speak about individually, i.e. if these are not inherent in the design, then there is no design. The focal points are the LR wall and the view from the front door back to the kitchen. Both balance and harmony can be found through the use of color, material and texture: there is white and green and gray in the kitchen. on the cabinets. in the lighting and accessories and the future backsplash tile; in the DR the theme continues with green on the wall, lighter green on the chairs, dark wood and glass for the table and a mid-tone woven wood for the light fixture which adds a natural texture (and also plays off of the natural woodwork which will be retained and which will also be picked up throughout by the woven wood blinds); the custom floorcloth contains many shades of the palette colors. The living room plays off the sectional - black and gray with accent colors in the pillows, including a bit of red; wood and glass and leather coffee table; the art, the wood mirror which picks up the natural element again, the green of the rug, and then some other outstanding items: a small chair, an end table, lighting. Red accents in accessories are to be used throughout as well as white curtains, most likely. I certainly understand your point that things may have to be reassessed at different points, but for most of this, the project is PAST that point as far as I understand. Case in point: they already bought the wall mount and found a solution for the electronics while that whole argument was going on!

I am sorry to you - and most of all, to Rhonda - if I have been seeming to speak for her. I did not mean to be presumptuous. I have just been on this almost daily for months and have kept track of the details and of her selections, so perhaps in trying to keep everyone on board, I have overstepped my bounds. So I guess you are right in that sense that I am defending her decisions. And those walls that went down and doors that were moved were done so based in no small part on what I told her - so yes, I feel a very big responsibility for Rhonda's trust. As I said before: this is no small amount of money they are spending and I do not forget that. My ONLY goal here has ever been to help this family get the house they want. I don't want to engage in games about who can appear smartest or most resourceful or most whatever - it's small and it's petty. There is, however, a limit as to how much needling I can stand and I had reached that limit, and that is the end of that story. So, I guess if I am to be lambasted for trying to keep track of the project and Rhonda's interests, lambaste away.

Kathryn Peltier Design @Dana Veach: I can't say thank you enough for what you have posted and to tell you that it really does mean a lot to me. I have really poured my heart and soul into this project of Rhonda's and I guess that I am emotionally attached to it. I don't want it to just be good, I want the Goodwins to feel that it is great! They have been working so hard to make this happen and I don't want them to feel disappointed with the process or the end result. I couldn't agree with you more on the editing job that Rhonda has done - she has been absolutely bombarded with stuff at times. and still plows her way through it :-)

@allcast: thank you, too, for your comments. I agree with you that this has been an outstanding, caring and friendly discussion. As for where it went wrong, I don't want to rehash it - and I'm sure no one else does either - but just suffice it to say that is was a culmination of things. Yes, Rhonda has asked me specifically about things and maybe that's where some of this has fallen through the Houzz cracks (lol). At any rate, I am aware of some of this now and will try to be helpful and honest and yet more cognizant of the forum.

@suzanne_m, thank you, too, for your comment. On a practical matter: thanks for pointing that out about the Houzz messaging. I have had people private message me but I can't message them without "responding". So, went to your page to test it out - and no button in the upper r.h. corner!!!! I didn't see a "messages" line on the left either, which is all I see that appears on mine. This Houzz messaging is somewhat of a mystery to me - glad I'm not alone! Any more tips on this?

@G.A. You put it so well when you said to give rationale for using or not using something. That is the point I neglected to make: don't make it a personal issue (e.g. I would never, that wouldn't work for me, etc.) because it isn't. And so I concur: ONWARD HO to squabbleless resolutions and solutions!

And to build on allcast's comment: Back to our regularly scheduled programming...:-)

Dana Veach Well said...and Amen!

Kevin Retired Decorator FYI and not to start anything PLEASE ! But ruffle curtains or ruffled anything are back in style. Roosters & Pigs are still in. Not that ruffles would be a good choice for Rhonda's contemporary design. Home fashion has become a lot like clothing fashion do what suits your personality. Country french & Farm styles would be roosters, pigs & ruffles. It's refreshing when design is done in a personal way. A good example is using a floor cloth designed like Rhonda's in a fresh approach. Follow your heart, good design is always in style.

Kevin Retired Decorator Just a idea ??? Anyone can write each other direct to share your thoughts with others and vice/versa. I feel it's getting to be a bit much with personal thoughts. We should share only about decor ideas. Just a thought.

Darzy Yes, I've deleted my nasty rant. Nuf said.

groveraxle Some thoughts on chairs for the living room. I know Rhonda wants one with a table by the window, and maybe one by the stair. They're going to have to be small. So I went looking for chairs that would fit the space and that fit my own personal criteria which are these: modern, upholstered, with arms. My thinking is that upholstered fits the budget best. I've seen a lot of these bicast and bonded leather chairs that are cheap and look great and everything I've read say they'll be flaking in two years. And arms because, frankly, I'm just not comfortable in a lounge chair without them.

I've come up with these:
The first two are knock offs of famous designer chairs, and while the second has no arms, I've sat in it many times and it is comfortable. I've also sat in the last one and it's comfy too, plus only $99 in fabric. They all have a fairly small footprint--depth of 25' or less--and would fit fairly well in the space.

groveraxle Two more. LOVE the red metal Louis chair. Small, a bit pricey ($329), but would last forever. The link just in case: http://www.wisteria.com/Updated-Louis-Chair-Red/productinfo/W6812/

Carol Love that red chair! What a great find!

rhondagoodwin I like the green one, where's it from? Not that I am going to buy it right now, but I would like to save it on my iPad .

rhondagoodwin I am so happy everyone has hugged and made up.
But there will definitely be no roosters or chickens or ruffles going on here... I visit my hometown in Ky. For that sort of decor and lifestyle. LOL. Now everyone keep smiling :)

groveraxle Here's the green chair, Rhonda: http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Portfolio-Seth-Green-Modern-Floral-Curved-Back-Arm-Chair/7877067/product.html

Oops. It's a little bigger than I thought: 29 inches deep.

groveraxle Rhonda, take a look here-- http://www.apt2b.com/furniture/accent-chairs?dir=asc&order=price --at their chairs. They're all good-looking knock offs of famous chairs. Very affordable. These two look like Philippe Starck chairs.

groveraxle Never mind that link above. They only deliver to the Los Angeles area. Interested in a Bertoia diamond chair for $245? http://www.modernindesigns.com/bertoia-diamond-chair.html

rhondagoodwin Groveraxle what did you think of my idea of making a collage of my grand children on canvas?

jayapple21 Rhonda, what do you think of this idea for a photo collage on canvas? (It's got to be the longest link address ever ☺)
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Collage-Canvas-20x24/13037915?client_guid=ec2bc49a-180e-4a58-881b-4666f4b60cc2&action=product_interest&action_type=title&wmt_id=13037915&module_index=0&bucket_id=000&placement_id=irs_top&strategy=PWVAV&visitor_id=35435712540&customer_id_enc=null&parent_item_id=12169496&category=0%3A5426%3A531183%3A1057924&config_id=2&guid=8a14f70c-d725-4847-b7c3-9e0d08502abe&findingMethod=p13n

groveraxle Rhonda, I like these ideas better:
Living Room / Dining Room.
My Office Wall

You can have photos converted to canvas at art.com. It's not terribly expensive and I think a grouping of the best pictures of the grandkids would look great on the wall at the entryway. Here is the link for making your own photo canvases: http://www.art.com/photostoart/

rhondagoodwin I will have to start going thru my photos

rhondagoodwin But these would go on the living room wall by the door

groveraxle Rhonda, a few notes on the photos. The best ones capture the personalities of the kids. They probably aren't the school or studio portraits, but the snaps you took when the kids were sledding or playing with the dog. Find those...or go out and take them now. Use the highest quality setting on your camera. Then crop them to get the absolute best part and eliminate all distractions. We want to see the children's smiles and looks of wonder; we don't care if their shirts are striped or plaid.

I would convert them all to black and white like the photos above. It's modern, and it somehow distills the photo to its very essence. And then I would have them printed on canvas instead of framed for a couple of reasons: it's cheaper, but mostly, the photo takes center stage without a frame.

If I can help in any way with the cropping, I will. Aspect ratio is going to be important here because the canvases come only in standard sizes and your photo will be cropped by the printer to make it fit.

groveraxle At art.com, a photo canvas would be $55 for 12x12, $65 for 16x16, and $120 for 24x24. I can't tell how big your wall is but four 16x16 canvases arranged as below would cover a bit less than 3 ft. square.

nikitasmom Found this site which says they are having a sale. http://www.easycanvasprints.com/my-canvas-design/#
30x40 under $100. GA could you create a collage for one that size using 4 more or less photos? Examples of using color vs. black and white.

Kathryn Peltier Design Black and white photos are so classic and especially in a collage, because the focus is the face without a lot of contrasting background color, etc. Either way, though, what a nice display this would be :-)

PS Sorry - didn't see G.A.'s previous comment about the bl&wh!

groveraxle @nikitasmom, I like that site you linked to because you can do custom sizes. I can do a collage, and I know it would be less expensive, but I think separate canvases would be stunning and worth the extra cost. My advice would be to set aside the funds for this project and find the savings elsewhere: forgo chairs or spray paint the tables instead of buying new.

Looking at the photo collage above, I can't help thinking it would be so much more effective as separate canvases. A collage is more than just sticking photos together. All the principles of composition still apply and a canvas with six different focal points just doesn't work, IMHO.

Kathryn Peltier Design G.A., I think a several images can work well together, but it's most successful when they are more studio- type shots, for instance every grandchild sitting in the same setting. The ones I've seen with multiple images that I like the best are of photos taken in quick succession. I really like those and wish that I had done that when my kids were little. Oh well! I agree with you that individual canvasses would be lovely and would give each grandchild their own "space" :-) I'm inspired to go back and look at my kid's childhood photos!

groveraxle

oneofeleven I think I sent this link earlier but I thought it was appropriate to resend. I don't know if these photos come in different sizes but it might be worth a call to Staples.
http://pinterest.com/pin/234750199299235385/

Kathryn Peltier Design i think I have the same page bookmarked on Pinterest, oneofeleven. Aren't these REALLY inexpensive? (sorry, I didn't follow through to the link - I'm too busy watching white stuff fall...eeeew)

groveraxle Kathryn, I've never been a big fan of studio shots. Like fine art, photos should (I think) be compelling for a reason other than just that it's your own child, especially if you're going to make them a design element in the house. I really love the ultra closeups of the kids, the kids in goofy hats, the kids actively doing kid stuff or wearing their own personal expressions that say, "This is who I am."

I'll bet Rhonda can find (or take) those photos and we can turn them into one spectacular wall. And if it were mine (I know it's not, but if it were), this is one place I'd break the bank because I think the photos she loves the most, the ones that make her heart sing, will give her more pleasure than any rug or lamp or chair she could ever buy. (And I feel very strongly that each photo should have its own canvas to give it weight.)

groveraxle I recall that link too, oneofeleven. I'll have to go back and look, but as I recall it required a LOT of diy.

In the meantime, Rhonda, go through your photos and pull out the ones you love. Let's get ready to see what we can make of them for your wall.

Kathryn Peltier Design Oh, I agree with you G.A. I was just commenting that that is the kind of shot that would probably work best in a collage, only because there is the commonality of the lighting, studio, etc. One of my favorite photos of my oldest son when he was about 3, in a seersucker short pantsuit and straw boater going to a birthday party - making a silly face to me in the photo :-)

Does anyone doubt you can turn photos in something spectacular? Yup, some things are just timeless and precious and certainly transcend furnishings...

Kathryn Peltier Design Hey, I just had another thought: I think from that same Pinterest link, someone had actually applied one of these oversize photos to the wall as wallpaper. What about blowing up a photo and doing that little wing wall in the kitchen on the right (outside wall). Could be fun!

oneofeleven I just went back and reread the post. Yes, this project is very inexpensive, under $50. There isn't a lot of DIY . The prints can be ordered Online. The foam board they are mounted on is available at Lowe's and they will cut it to size. Photos are attached with spray adhesive and that's pretty well it. The only thing I would be concerned with is the quality of the shots, it's hard to tell on a monitor. If you were considering this Rhonda it would be worth ordering a shot ($4.00) to see what you think.

Kathryn Peltier Design Well, if Rhonda likes the idea of "wallpaper" in the kitchen, this process would work. If it were me, I wouldn't even mind less than perfect quality - in fact, I think it would be more interesting if it weren't. Does that make sense lol?

Kathryn Peltier Design I'm thinking of this in addition to nice photos in the LR, not in place of them!

groveraxle Actually, I did this many years ago for a friend's husband. In the days before this kind of reproduction was easy and cheap, we blew up a photo of the Rolling Stones to about 5 ft. square. The file was so large, I couldn't email it; had to snail mail it on a zip drive (remember those?) It was several hundred dollars for a poster. I built a frame, faced it with chipboard, then used spray adhesive to adhere it. It's still hanging in his closet.

Which makes me think now that Rhonda could do this herself with MDF cut to size and photos adhered with spray adhesive. Here is how it might look (with her own grandchildren instead of random children, of course).

groveraxle Oops. I see I forgot to paint the walls between the photos. Rhonda, you really need to call the professionals here; I keep screwing up!

groveraxle Here's a place that does custom size printing and their prices are excellent. I can't tell what shipping will cost. (One place that looked promising had prints reasonably priced and outrageous shipping charges, always a factor to consider.)

https://www.posterprintshop.com/pricing.aspx

oneofeleven Rhonda, I can't remember if you were going to have stools at your island but I just pinned this for myself, thought you might like it.
https://www.jossandmain.com/The-Retro-Kitchen-Soda-Fountain-Barstool~BUF1607~E3876.html

oneofeleven @ga, I'm curious as to why you suggested MDF? I've never worked with it on any projects.

suzanne_m Again, I, may be the party pooper:( ...I love the idea of photos canvases ... it's just that if I were Rhonda I would wait until all the furniture is in. She has already committed to the sunburst and the bird canvas. What if, for some reason they don't work under the sofa (ex. maybe Rhonda would see the tv reflection in the sunburst and would like to move it somewhere else). I think waiting for the furniture to come in does not mean she won't have the photos canvases, it just means that she would be in a lot better position to decide how many canvases and how big each are once she knows where everything is going to be hung.

rhondagoodwin No one is being a party pooper, I am not ordering anything else until everything is painted and the furniture is in.
No worries please, but I do love to shop, even if it is window shopping.

Kathryn Peltier Design Since this was mentioned a ways back: I contacted Houzz about the message function and received a reply. At this point in time, although they say they are expanding the capability, only people on Houzz designated as professional have the "Contact Me" button. Just FYI!

@Rhonda: I love to shop online, even if I don't buy (which I don't very often)! There's a bonus, too: I used to get nearly every design/decorating magazine known to man. Now between Houzz and Pinterest, I can have my fill of ideas and images any time. A money saver - until Houzz comes out as a magazine lol!

rhondagoodwin Same for me when it came to cake decorating... :)

groveraxle I also like to Internet browse for ideas. No hurry to buy any canvases or prints now, but with all this brainstorming, when the time comes, we'll have a good idea of the cheapest way to go to get the effect Rhonda likes. One reason I do so many photoshops is because sometimes you just have to SEE it. Ever said "meh" to a dress on the rack and then put it on and found it looked fabulous? Same with design.

Oneofeleven, I suggested MDF because it's cheap and indestructible. I'd never used it either until I took a workshop with a painter who gave us all MDF boards to collage. I'd been using cradled boards till then and the cost was mounting. MDF is a fraction of the price. BTW, did you know everything in the scrap bin at HD is 51 cents? I doubt you'd find a big enough piece to make four panels, but I'll bet you could find four pieces large enough. $2.04 for four supports; can't beat it.

Kathryn Peltier Design @groveraxle: I like your dress analogy. Unfortunately, it works the other way, too lol!

groveraxle The entry wall with some photos of some kids that I'm sure aren't nearly as cute as Rhonda's, the TV mount and shelves, and the green chair she liked. I like this chair here too. It's a tiny bit large, almost 30" deep.. I'll see if I can find something similar that's closer to 25".

rhondagoodwin Looks awesome... Unfortunately my husband mounted the TV higher... Only about 8 to 12 inches from the ceiling... I know it should be eye level but he already ran the electric for it and I was lucky to get it centered on the wall.

groveraxle Where was the supervisor?

Lynne Forrestal so then, how much height is there under the tv shelves?

rhondagoodwin @ Groveraxle ... LOL I was at my nephews birthday party.

rhondagoodwin Oh yeah and the divider on the ceiling is gone also

rhondagoodwin And I really like that chair in the photo... Looks good sitting there

njmomma @Lynne Forrestal that is a good idea.

I have a half circle narrow cabinet under my flat screen that has draws, doors and shelves that fit all the t.v. components. Great find at Home Goods, very reasonable.


Very similar to the attached. Of course, if there is space availability.

groveraxle Rhonda, I'm not finding smaller chairs. However, I found some about the same size as that green floral at Target that are very affordable.

I've removed the ceiling beam, added a Target chair (and red vase because it needed something), and the thing I'm most excited about: I colorized the kids' pictures to more of a sepia tone to match the wall color.

rhondagoodwin Groveraxle how far from the ceiling should the TV be mounted?

groveraxle You're asking the wrong person on that one, Rhonda. I still have one old CRT TV that never gets turned on. LOL

Here is an excerpt from an article on TV placement (and the link):

Where to mount your TV
Ideally, the middle of your TV screen needs to be at about eye level while you're seated. You'll want to be comfortable while watching TV, and mounting it too high can result in neck strain. Plus, you'll probably see the best-looking picture when you view your TV head-on, rather than at an angle. If you opt for a higher placement, consider using a tilting wall mount to angle the TV down.

Screen glare
Sit in your favorite TV-watching spot and look at the place on the wall where you plan to mount your TV. Is there light reflecting off that area? If so, is it something fixable (by closing the curtains, or by moving a lamp)? Screen glare can be distracting, and detract from an otherwise beautiful picture, so be aware of potential sources of glare. A tilting or swiveling mount can also help you cut down on glare, by allowing you to angle the TV's screen away from the light source.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-dww9lowCxn1/learn/learningcenter/home/flatpanel_install.html

The page above also has some suggestions for hiding the cables.

Here's another-- http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-20120053-221/how-high-should-i-put-my-tv-morrisons-mailbag/ --that says you should place the TV so the center of the screen is no higher than eye level when you're watching. It's actually better to look DOWN at the screen than up.

Oops, Rhonda, DH may have to move that thing.

groveraxle Rhonda, if you decide (and I hope you do) to get the grandkids' pictures printed in large format for that entry wall, here's something you need to know: the pictures need to be high resolution--basically the best quality setting on your camera. All the online printing places will tell you what the quality of your print is at different sizes. So a print that looks good at 12x12" might be too grainy at 24x24" if the resolution isn't high enough.

Lynne Forrestal I agree with tv placement, If it needs to be SLIGHTLY higher than eye level that will work too. We have ours over a fireplace, and since we lay down most of the time to watch, our necks are supported, but when we are sitting, neck strain doesn't take long to set in. Not as low as the old consoles we used to have though, I also would take into consideration if little kids are walking around, slightly higher than their heads so , 1 they don't play with it but also so they don't in the way of the "game or movie" others may be watching LOL.

Lynne Forrestal A quick selfish request, if anyone in their searchs , run into white panels, tab top or gromet top with a texture, but not sheer for my patio door I'd really appreciate the link.. or website. I've been looking and can't find. was thinking of a valance to match them too ( which makes it even harder) thanks I won't impose any more about this here on Rhonda's ... my discussion is at :
http://www.houzz.com/discussions/410218/Need-help-decorating-my-new-kitchen----help-

nikitasmom We have ours mounted over the fireplace. 55' from the floor and about 11 feet from sofa which is directly across from it and the approximate widthe of the room. We do have to look up from the sofa and I don't find it uncomfortable or get neck aches watching that way. So, I took a moment to test the difference and eye level wins for comfort. If I had known about Houzz when we hung it I might have done it differently but then again we have an odd house with step up and down rooms. The family room is lowered. the kitchen higher, and the breakfast/laptop bar faces the tv. Our choice was to look up or to look sideways.

Kathryn Peltier Design @Lynne: did you see that link I had to the Ikea panels? It says they provide privacy but let light in. They might work for you, too, and they're only $10/PAIR!

@Rhonda re: TV height - 36" above the floor to the bottom of the TV is good. That usually accommodates most viewers. You could go higher - as nikitasmom says, many people have them mounted over the fireplace - but eye level is the best and easiest-to-watch level.

to8to Love this

groveraxle Almost half a day without a comment. Can't have that. How about some chairs for the living room?

suzanne_m Rhonda, when do you expect to receive your DR set and sofa?

rhondagoodwin Just waiting till all the spackling and painting is done...

rhondagoodwin I really like the first chair... The petals. Kind of resemble the floor cloth

rhondagoodwin I was selling at the flea market today, that's why I haven't been on. No I didn't buy anything, well okay the Mr. Got a belt, I got perfume and my son got a two for one watch deal... One for him and one for me.

Kathryn Peltier Design That sounds like fun, Rhonda!!! I've hit a few rummage sales, now that the "season" has started lol!

furrytoes Any chance you might post a few "under construction" photos?

suzanne_m You're right Rhonda, I haven't notice how close the petals of the chair looks a lot alike the petals on the floor cloth. I also like the chair with the gray and orange leaves, it goes very well with the bird frame. I can't wait to see it all together!

rhondagoodwin Furrytoes everything has slowed down a little... Meaning my men, so the only thing they have done this far is the ceiling which use to be textured because of all the defects in it.
I did change the island countertop though... The other one had scratches all in it when they delivered it and the granite wasn't sealed right, so we got a quartz white galaxy, which is whiter than the last one.
Here are pic tires of the ceiling and the new island counter top... Sorry I don't have more to show you right now.

groveraxle Rhonda, your cabinets looks beautiful! Thanks for the pics.

I also noticed the petal chair echoes the floorcloth pattern. You can see it more in this photoshop with the dining room in the background:

lr9690 I want to redo my bed room I need dancer bright color ideas for a tween

groveraxle I almost hate to suggest this, and would like Kathryn, the space planner, to weigh in here, but it would be great to clear your counters. Is there someplace--maybe even the corner of the dining room--to put something like a baker's rack to hold your coffee maker and paper towel holder and other stuff that you want available all the time? I'm not a big fan of baker's racks, but sometimes they can be useful and I think this might be one of those times.

http://www.wayfair.com/Wildon-Home-®-Scout-Scrolled-Bakers-Rack-DTO2190-UT1984.html
Overall dimensions: 69" H x 19.25" W x 12.25" D

rhondagoodwin I would love to have empty counters and did have my coffee maker on the other side out of view, but dear hubby who hates change wanted it back where it was to start.

rhondagoodwin I know it still looks a little cluttered but we are still in the process of finding a place for everything that doesn't have to be out all the time.

oneofeleven Rhonda, have you perused Ikea lately? They have so many ingenious tools for organizing. Paper towels could be hung under the cupboards or from an Ikea rod.

oneofeleven this is too large for your kitchen but it might give you some ideas for your coffee pot. I've pinned it for myself for my "future" kitchen

jayapple21 Rhonda, I love your new quartz island top. The light color brightens up that end of your first floor and quartz is said to be strong and easy maintenance. I think you'll like it more than the original top that you replaced.

I also like the clever hooks-over-the-cabinet-doors you found for holding a dish towel (lime green!) and what looks like a red lid. I haven't seen these hooks before and they are a clever way to NOT mark up your beautiful new cabinets. If you notice any sign that they are rubbing on the cabinet - and leaving any kind of mark - I suggest that you get a package of those circular felt pads that go on chair legs to prevent scratches on the floor and stick a disc on the back of each vertical metal arm so that part doesn't rub the cabinet. You can cut these in half if they are too wide. I had to do that with an over-the-door towel rack.

As for the coffee maker, it seems to me that Mr. G - who doesn't like change - has been a real sweetheart to help you make so many changes in order to have the house that you've dreamed about. I'm guessing that he really enjoys his coffee from that coffee maker, and he likes having it where it's always been. That coffee maker is an important part of the kitchen to him and it's fine where it is for now. You know that old saying, "choose your battles". You are doing an amazing job of navigating a huge home renovation. And it's really looking good!

oneofeleven this type of armchair looks comfy and the wire legs keep the space around it open and airy

groveraxle Nice chair, oneofeleven. It ought to be though since it's $1,682.00 in the cheapest fabric. LOL

groveraxle http://www.ezmodfurniture.com/index.php/modern-classics/orange-slice-chair-in-fabric.html
A knock off for $300:

groveraxle Knock offs here: http://www.ezmodfurniture.com/index.php/accent-chairs.html

oneofeleven I like the red one. I never bothered to check the price as I was only putting it out there for inspiration. Of course that's always the way isn't it. The thing you love turns out to be waaaaaay out of reach.

Kathryn Peltier Design Rhonda, I happened to see these voile curtains at Big Lots for $7 each - actually more $$$ than the Ikea ones! However, they are hemmed to 84" and they are 51"w, so they might be easier than the Ikea, although maybe not quite as "clean" looking. They have a rod pocket at the top but they should be hung on a rod with rings. ( BTW, curtains should be 1 1/2 to 2 times the width of the window).
http://www.biglots.com/p/c/window-treatments/crushed-voile-panel

Kathryn Peltier Design These would work, too, but they are $12/panel and it doesn't say what the size is. They are heavier - dont' know that that would look as good.
http://www.biglots.com/p/c/window-treatments/montego-grommetted-panels

groveraxle Kathryn, that is brilliant! I hate the bunchy look you get with rod pockets, but it never occurred to me that you could just hang them on rings with clips. Duh. ;-)

Kathryn Peltier Design Lol, G.A. I'll take brilliant however I can get it haha!

rhondagoodwin If they are to go from ceiling to floor I think I need longer ones

groveraxle All of Ikea's drapes seem to be 96" long.

Here's an alternative: plain unbleached muslin. Have your cousin hem panels to the appropriate lengths and hang them with clips. If I've done my math right, you need four panels total (two for the front window, two for the entry wall window), at 96" each, you would need 32 ft. plus hem allowances or a bit more than 11 yards. 60" wide unbleached muslin is about $5/yd.

So look at Ikea first. Their drapes are actually cheaper than you can make them. Way cheaper; these sheers are $4.99: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90111980/ (How do they do that?)

Lynne Forrestal IKEA, this is what I ordered, seems they may be heavier than sheers but still light, and at 9.99 for a PAIR and the longer length too...
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00221539/

Kathryn Peltier Design Lynne, did you get them yet? I'll be interested to hear what you think, and so will Rhonda, I'll bet! :-) Yes, those sounded like a very good material for light yet privacy.

Kathryn Peltier Design I didn't see your earlier post, Rhonda. They don't have to go ALL the way to the ceiling, but the higher you hang them, the taller the room seems. This seems to be a pretty good explanation:
http://www.womansday.com/home/decorating-ideas/how-to-hang-curtains

Kathryn Peltier Design Hey, I meant to ask: how did you do at the flea market?

Lynne Forrestal Kathryn, I haven't received them yet, will definitely report when I do :), my orders says estimated delivery is May7, hope the come early!

rhondagoodwin Kathryn... Because we came home with a couple empty totes I was excited. If we didn't have to rent a truck we would have ended up with more of a profit, but I was selling my stuff for like 2 or 3 dollars, I figured getting a dollar for something was better than throwing it away. And I got my tan started so it was worth the time for me.
We still have more stuff to sell, but I want to wait till he gets the flooring out of the truck so we don't have to rent one. I was shocked that it cost $55.00 to get a spot at the flea market.
The last time I had sold at a flea market it was only $20, I guess inflation hit the flea market too.

jayapple21 Rhonda, do you have Craigslist where you live? With one of your guys at home (for safety) maybe you can move some of your things on a weekend without having to pay that big flea market rental fee.

groveraxle Good idea, jay. There's a craigslist everywhere: http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/

rhondagoodwin Jayapple21... I tried that with my Wilton character shaped pans and some other things and never got a response from anyone... I have tried craigslist a few times with no luck.

Kathryn Peltier Design I know what you mean about prices! I decided that since it was almost summer I was going to get some new nail polish. Who knew that nail polish is now $8????!!!! OK, to be fair, some was about $4 on sale, but I decided to be cheap and use whatever I had. The price on my bottle at home was $2.49 - but it still works! Guess that must have been from the turn of the century lol

nikitasmom With craigslist you may have to check your spam folder. I know of several people who thought they weren't getting replies when in reality the emails were going into the spam folder.
I hear ya Kathryn. I thought it would be nice to get a few new bright colors for my tootsies but when I saw the prices I decided to use up what I had first.

Kathryn Peltier Design I have had the same experience with other sites like Freecycle, too. Anything that you can't sell but don't want to throw away can be recycled through Freecycle. I'm sure there will be a bunch of different ones in Philly because they are by area/community. I use it all the time to recycle things: all my design magazines go to a h.s. design class, I offer my plants when I divide them, household stuff I don't need (I offered the glass turntable from my dead microwave and a woman who lives about 5 miles away came and got it because she had just broken hers!), etc. You can also ask for stuff you might need. Normally people just select who gets the item from whoever responds and you can leave it out on your porch or wherever and they come and pick it up. It's a great way to get rid of stuff if it's not worth the hassle of selling it. http://www.freecycle.org/

jayapple21 Do you have anyone who runs a used furniture "treasure" shop in your locale? I was thrilled to sell my daughter's old bedroom furniture - which originally came from Goodwill and we had painted it white - to a lady who has such a shop where she likes to sell real wood furniture. She and her daughter came with a pickup truck and we loaded the truck, she wrote me a check, and off they went.

oneofeleven Yard sale season is just about here.

Kathryn Peltier Design I went to a "season opener" last Saturday! lol

rhondagoodwin I know you all hate to hear when I have already bought something, and i know i said no more purchasing untill the house was complete, but i really , really liked this chair and I kept checking on the chair from overstock.com and the quantity kept going down everyday, sooooooo I really liked it and found a coupon and got it for $208.00 so I ordered it. So accent chair is on order.

Kathryn Peltier Design I think that chair will look great!

groveraxle I love the chair, Rhonda, and I'm glad you got it--especially for such a fabulous price! I think it's going to be very comfy and look wonderful in the space. Now, how about we refurbish one of your old tables to put next to it? (I say "we" like I'm gonna be the one to get my hands dirty, LOL.) You know what might be fun? A high gloss paint on one of the small tables. I'll get on it later today.

jayapple21 That's been my favorite all along, too. Sometimes you just know when something seems right and when something doesn't work (you switched out your island counter top).

Go Nautical Collections Love the chair, where can I buy this chair?

groveraxle Go Nautical, the chair is here: http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Portfolio-Seth-Green-Modern-Floral-Curved-Back-Arm-Chair/7877067/product.html

Go Nautical Collections Thank you so much, I will start looking!

amafixer Love your new chair. I have been following your "journey" from the beginning. It has been interesting and informative. I admire all the work you & your husband & son have done. Your home will not simply be redecorated but reformed.

groveraxle On sale at West Elm. $129. Wish I needed one. Perfect height for your new chair.

Ed Wow, 2,780 replies! :)

rhondagoodwin Groveraxle, I ordered the chair from overstock,I found a promo code and got $36 off. :)
And when I called to order my backsplash I asked her if I could get a better price, she asked if she could call me back and when she did she gave me 25% off so instead of paying $622 for 30 square feet I am only paying $494
I always look for promo codes before ordering online.

Kathryn Peltier Design You should start a shopping blog, Rhonda!

groveraxle Rhonda, you amaze me! I wouldn't have even thought to ask for a better price. You've saved a couple hundred dollars in a day. Pretty good wages, I'd say.

rhondagoodwin Well I was reading a review and someone mentioned asking for 20% off, so I thought it would be worth a shot.
I am just glad I didn't ask for 20% and instead asked for a better price, because she gave me 25% off

Dana Veach Good work!!!

peginvalpo Where is everyone? Am I missing something? Need my Rhonda fix! Ok, I'll be patient. (for a while!) lol

groveraxle I'm missing my Rhonda too. Rhonda, how about an update? We know you've ordered the chair and the backsplash tile. Are you still painting? Let us know where you are now, and what comes next.

Kathryn Peltier Design I think we're waiting for the big reveal!!!!

rhondagoodwin Sorry everyone, like I said before they have slowed. Down emencly, I am home tomorrow so I can get them moving again. If I am not here they don't do anything... MEN!
Nothing more has been done but the ceiling. And that isn't even painted yet.
I know what you mean though, I come home from work everyday and check my post.
I will definately let everyone know when things start to progress again.

nailbags2u Yes, this is an easy fix. Paint, Paint, Paint. I just finish a room with the same kind of paneling. Kilz it first and the paint it. Black interior door, give a very elegant look with white trim and both will match any color you select for your walls and furniture. Good Luck.

Chrissy McCleery First take everything off the walls, remove drapes, furniture and knock knacks.

Chrissy McCleery I would paint all walls, paneling, door,bannister, an off white. Take curtains off windows and just go with existing shades..before you decide on color. Place swatches next to green carpet. Ask the paint salesperson which off whites have the color green in them..he will know what you are talking about.

peginvalpo That's what I'm talkin' about! LOLOLOLOL

vacox Oh YEAH!!! You and me both, Peginvalpo....

suzanne_m Rhonda, can you show your husband and son all our last comments .. how desperate, us Houzzers, are waiting for progress :( Maybe it will encourage them to work some more :)

oneofeleven Earth to Chrissy and Nailbag2U! Please spend a little bit of time to read past comments. This project has been months in the making and is almost complete.

nailbags2u Back to earth now, so let's see the progress.....pictures plz.

oneofeleven Glad you're back. Rhonda has posted pics of all the work that has been done,(the kitchen) she has also posted pics of her furniture purchases, unfortunalety there are so many posts you have to work at it to find them. Go to Rhonda' idea books, I think there are pics there.

groveraxle I have compiled an ideabook with photoshops that have already been posted of what work has either been done or is planned. Hope this link works. Here it is:

donnasd Have been reading this post for months. I'm having a really hard time locating it now. Hope this comment helps me find you all again!

jabbott2012 Donnasd.....bookmark the post by clicking on the bookmark link under Rhonda's original picture. Then you can access the page under "my houzz"

donnasd Thanks jabbott2012. This really does help!

groveraxle Rhonda, any updates? Photos? Or are you guys just too pooped and taking a vacation?

Some of us are suffering withdrawal here. I need to be doing something: photoshopping your grandkids' photos or searching for cafe curtains...something...anything....HELP ME...

oneofeleven @ga, there are hundreds of other posters out there that would love your help. I think you need to find one or two more interesting threads now before Rhonda' s finishes up, it will help lessen the withdrawal symptoms :)

studio10001 Not sure if that is the cure, or a recipe for multiple addictions :))

suzanne_m I have an idea ... maybe we can all go to Rhonda's house and bring our paint brushes to help them then we can be on the spot to place all the furniture and the wall arts in any way we can think of :)

rhondagoodwin You all crack me up... He is now fixing the walls in my dining room. When he took the paneling down the lathe under it showed its age and crumbled at a touch. Since it is just him and I now doing this project he wants to do all patch work and spackling in both living room and dining room before doing anymore painting.

groveraxle

Dana Veach Too funny, G.A.!!

oneofeleven I couldn't remember if you already had your tiles ordered Rhonda, but I found these and thought I'd throw it our your way

rhondagoodwin Yes Oneofeleven I have ordered my tiles, but thanks for continuing to look.
I am waiting as patiently as you all for things to progress.

rhondagoodwin What. Do you all think about these tables, maybe stacked in some way next to the stair side of the sectional? Maybe? Look at all the photos on the site it shows them stacked.
http://www.wayfair.com/Ave-Six-Slick-End-Table-SLK36-AVS1048.html

suzanne_m I like it very much Rhonda!

Kevin Retired Decorator I think they very fun and cool ! Perfect for your room. What colors do you like? or are you going to mix them as shown ? either way FUN

suzanne_m g.a. you have something to photoshop!!! Yes!!!!

rhondagoodwin Not sure, I was thinking mixing... Hopefully this will give Groveraxle something to do for awhile... LOL

amafixer Fun tables!

groveraxle Thanks, Rhonda. I threw in a lamp because the corner was a bit bare.

suzanne_m Rhonda, you could insert a pet cushion inside the table. I am sure your dog would love his onw house.

Dana Veach Those tables are really fun, Rhonda...good choice!

rhondagoodwin I think those might work

suzanne_m Rhonda, just in case you want to order them, I want to make sure that you remember that they are the same size. So even if you order the same 2 tables g.a. photoshop, they won't make the same effect in your living room because the ones g.a. drew are not the same size.

rhondagoodwin I could always get three and stack the two for a smaller lamp

suzanne_m Rhonda, I like very much those tables and I would love if you get them but what I even love more is that you don't get any surprises. I wonder if you can stack them and have a lamp on top of it because the 2 tables will be 30 in. high in total which is the standard height for a dining table. Houzzers, what do you think? Can Rhonda stack 2 tables, put a lamp on it, have them a bit at the back then add a third one in front where she could put a drink and/or a book? I hope it works because I would really like Rhonda to get these tables. If not, can she buy 2: one for beside the sofa and the other beside the chair?

groveraxle Here are the dimensions of the colored tables: 17" H x 15" W x 15" D. I have redone the graphics to try to make them more to scale. (And actually, suzanne, they are almost exactly the same size in the photoshop above, which actually may be the problem since the one in back should look smaller.)

Anyway, here are my thoughts on these tables: I like the colors and think they're fun. However, they are a bit small for end tables, they will not be suitable as extra seats (weight limit = 75 lbs), and by the time you buy two or three, they're pricey at $90 apiece.

I still like the idea of a bench at that end of the sectional.

Kathryn Peltier Design @suzanne: good point. 30" (2 stacked tables) is too high for an end table, and 15" is low (more coffee table height) I really like these little tables, but, personally, I think it's one more thing to hold off on until you get the sectional and coffee table in the room and more of a feel for what you want.

groveraxle On further reflection (and also upon adding the coffee table to the pic), I don't like the wood bench with the coffee table. Too much wood. I prefer an upholstered bench. A tray could be used on the end for drinks and such.

suzanne_m I agree with g.a. I prefer an upholstered bench. I don't have time right now to look for one but I think a bench with a fabric that has some red on it would look nicer than just white and green.

suzanne_m Do you think this side table would be nice beside Rhonda's chair. It is 16.25 in. high.

http://www.wayfair.com/Wildon-Home-%C2%AE-Rawlins-End-Table-XG2177-UT2803.html

suzanne_m I was thinking the chair in green:

Kevin Retired Decorator I love the table above , I own one in black, right now I flipped it over and it's a plant stand. lol I have also used it with a glass top and made it a bit bigger. This would be good next to the chair but to small next to the sectional with a table lamp. The do have step tables that would work nice at the end of the sectional. I feel the coffee table with the benches is one enough for the room. But I agree with KP wait !

rhondagoodwin M not buying yet just looking, thanks for the input, and I too like the green one suzanne_m

suzanne_m Kevin, I am just wondering ... is 16.25 in height too low for a side table? Also, I am sorry I had made a mistake with Rhonda''s cubic tables, they are 17 in. high not 15 in. So I guess if Kevin tells me that 16.25 in. is good enough for a side table then the one that Rhonda found would also be good. We know she can't stack them (it would be 34 in. high) and plus it would not be stable if someone knock them then here's goes the lamp. But it would work if Rhonda chooses to put only one (let's say by the chair then have a bench by the sofa). Personally, I think I prefer the wired green one beside the chair because it is cheaper and also it kind of speak to the blinds with the lines the wires make.

Interior Analysis Painpaint the paneling . I think if you painted it a gray which is a neutral would purk up the space

oneofeleven @Interior Analysis, you are kidding I hope. Try looking at the original post and note the number of comments on this site.

Dana Veach Aargh!

Kevin Retired Decorator I think a side table can be OK even if low but not with a lamp on it. Rhonda already is going to use a floor lamp on one side I think. So a wall lamp or sconce could work with the 171/2 inch tall table.

suzanne_m Thanks Kevin. If Rhonda puts nothing on the table and no wall lamp or sconce above, will it look too low or too tiny? The dimensions of Rhonda's chair are:
Seat: 20" H x 19.5" W x 20" D
Chair: 33.5" H x 33" W x 29" D
The table dimensions are: 16.25" H x 12.75" W x 12.75" D

http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Portfolio-Seth-Green-Modern-Floral-Curved-Back-Arm-Chair/7877067/product.html

Kevin Retired Decorator These cubes are less than15"s square and 3 of these two stacked for a lamp are really cheap at wayfair.com to create a L shaped sort of feel I think these were under $40. each comes in several finishes. Then use the wire table next to the chair. But again I would wait on the tables next to the sectional since space is tight. I just feel a upholstered bench next to the sectional is to redundant with the coffee table with built in benches. I would like to see a table lamp in that corner. So maybe a wood bench the right height could work so you could place a lamp on it.

Kevin Retired Decorator For the occasional chair I think all you need is a small table for a drink, because there is also a TV and stand wall mounted there and I wouldn't want that area to get to busy.

suzanne_m I agree with you Kevin that it is better to keep that area simple. However, because the table is 3.75" below the height of the seat, I think it is too small. I went and checked the review on that table, everyone loves it but find it is either not wide enough or not tall enough. I guess I would pass on it though I have found the same table in a bigger size in black only at $80.
http://homedecoreveryday.com/accent-cocktail-end-tables/lspiral-accent-table-black-18.5-inch
I think that size would have been perfect (18.5" H x 14.75" W x 14.75" D)

Kevin Retired Decorator Same table nearly my measures 18.5 inches tall and worked great next to my chair.

Kathryn Peltier Design A small table next to the chair shouldn't be an issue, but I DO think that whatever goes next to the sectional should be higher. Somewhere, back a long time ago, when this discussion took place the first time, I had posted the arm height of the couch. That is the height that is important because that table will get a lot of use and you want it to be close to the arm height to make it convenient for setting a drink, etc. plus it should look in scale to the couch. I don't have time right now to go back and find it, but I think that dimension needs to be considered (plus, it's a fairly wide arm, I think)

groveraxle Since Rhonda has agreed not to buy anything else till the furniture is in, we have plenty of time to look. Then she can actually measure the arms of the sofa and chair and the height question will be answered.

However, if we are just going to point her to plain wood box-shaped tables, she has plenty of those already. If she hasn't sold them yet, I say she should use tables she has until the PERFECT one comes along. What would be perfect? The right height, the right price, and something Rhonda loves. I suspect it will be something more interesting than a wooden box.

groveraxle Two affordable tables that are not boxes. The leaf is $60, the bird $50, both from Pier1. One thing I like about them is they don't contribute to overdosing on wood in the room. One thing I don't like: they may not be quite substantial enough to compete with the large furniture in the room. Both are 24" tall.

groveraxle Entry wall with chair and bird table

suzanne_m Kathryn, when look at g.a. image above, I tend to say that the table that will go with the green chair should be 24 in. high because the chair has arms. In your opinion what could be the lowest table that would work there? This would allow me to have the fun looking for suggestions for the right size tables that would work there?

g.a. Hope Rhonda's cat won't jump on table's bird :)

Kathryn Peltier Design Typically, you want the end table to be very close in height to the arm of the chair/couch, but not above it. I think for this chair a little more leeway can be given because this will be truly and "occasional" chair. I would think, though, that 18" is the lowest that would work. Does someone have the actual arm height of this chair?

Kathryn Peltier Design I found the couch arm height: 26.5"

suzanne_m Thank you, Kathryn.

groveraxle Okay, I finally took Mr. G's shirt off the banister and hung it in the closet. Now I just have to say...if loving this table is wrong, I don't wanna be right...

studio10001 My favourite thing today!!!!!( I am so making one of those)

groveraxle $40 at cb2: http://www.cb2.com/formosa-chartreuse-tray-table/f7997

groveraxle You're so funny, studio 10001. I'm thinking I could use one in my own entry. I don't imagine it will find favor with Mr. G. though.

Kathryn Peltier Design I personally think the shoes are too casual for the room. I would have to go with a spectator...

jayapple21 Or for a touch of red, how about Dorothy's "ruby slippers" ??? ☺

studio10001 A friend gave me an incredible pair of shoes - in the wrong size - just because she knew I would love the design, and couldn't stop herself. Thank you Groveraxle, I can at last wear them in the living room!!!

groveraxle OMG, Kathryn, you made me LOL!!!

groveraxle Better?

Kathryn Peltier Design Now when Rhonda gives the room a white-glove test, she'll have the shoes to go with it. I think she'll have to wear pearls while cleaning though, to complete the ensemble.

achelous I think the place has good bones. I would slowly make changes according to budget. Start by removing light-fan use floor lamps to add height to room. Remove the thin moulding along ceiling and wall so won't detract from the wonderful doors and windows, use roman raffia shades instead of rods and curtain panels. Buy frames like at costco and fit all pics into them and select only a couple of walls to hang them. Use a lighter creamier color for the wall and leave the paneling alone, it's 70's but can look elegant! Matching wing chairs instead of those would give the room a classic vibe and you can follow later with claw foot (queen Anne) pieces, pretty and easy, inexpensive to find. Put tv in lower table away from window or door. Replace the electric switches, plates with modern ones. A feather throw for the cat so it's nap adds to decor :-)

Kathryn Peltier Design ...and then add the spectators.

achelous I stay away from trendy pieces because, just like the 70's oak light switches, they date quickly. I prefer art or accessories along with arrangement of furniture to make a place look current

Kevin Retired Decorator I call those shoes come and get it shoes. LOL Nothing beats a pump heal on a lady.

oneofeleven Someone is seriously missing the point Miss Kathryn!

Kevin Retired Decorator I wish all the Moms on this site a Happy Mothers Day !!!!! Especially to you Rhonda for bring us all together !

Kathryn Peltier Design Thanks, Kevin - that is so nice!

groveraxle Thank you, Kevin, for that lovely sentiment.

Hobo Jane I think this thread would make a great reality tv show.....

rhondagoodwin Happy Mothers Day to all of the other wonderful moms out there!!!
I think I will pass on the shoe table though, although it would give use to all the lovely shoes I buy because I like the look, but my feet are finicky and I can't wear heals soi have lots of shoes looking nice in my closet.

Kathryn Peltier Design Thanks Rhonda - Happy Mother's Day to you, too! I'm waiting for my boys to finish making dinner :-)

loishapi So, hello: Have you changed this room yet? if so, what have you done that you could share? As I have just now seen this page for the first time. Two things: a) I am curious to see changes. b) I see a delightfully enticing little project that will cost very little to transform and lift your spirits high!

Kathryn Peltier Design @loishapi: this project has been ongoing for 4 months and has 2800+ posts. You can go back to the beginning and read through if you have days to spare! A LOT has been accomplished...

Lynne Forrestal loishapi, scroll back to two weeks ago to get a glimpsy of the kitchen that is mostly done, just waiting for backsplash tile to come in, Rhonda and family have most of dining room items chosen, and purchased, but are in process of doing work in there, and in the living room, Many items that are shown in the photo shop s that groveraxle has been doing is decided on and purchased. except a few items like tables and lamps, so Rhonda is well on her way... you're welcome to follow along ... we are anxiously waiting for progress reports and photo updates too :)

groveraxle @loishapi, this ideabook should get you up to date:

outletsart You can make your home more Artistic.I hope this can help you to make your home more beautiful. Weclome to my site: Outletarts .com

Kathryn Peltier Design Hi Rhonda! Hope all is going well :-) Hey, I just happened to see these on one of those shopping sites and thought I'd send it along. Both of them would be too much in your living room, but I was thinking that if you wanted to use a swag lamp over the chaise area, maybe you could use the lamp in a bedroom or somewhere. It's a great deal! http://www.55downingstreet.com/products/290/w9040.aspx

Kathryn Peltier Design Spoke too soon: here is a lampshade I think you would like. This might be nice on a table lamp in the living room (could probably find one at Target or somewhere) http://www.55downingstreet.com/products/286/x0380.aspx

Or how about this lamp
http://www.55downingstreet.com/products/286/w9279.aspx

I haven't ever paid much attention to this site, even though I get their emails, but their prices are GREAT plus you get free shipping on most items.

Kevin Retired Decorator Love that table lamp and a great price at $30. .

oneofeleven I liked them all, thanks for the new link!

Dana Veach I found several nice pieces at this site, and you are right...some decent prices as well...Thanks for the link, Kathryn!

rhondagoodwin What do you all think of this as a wall decor??? They are air plants on a frame.

Kevin Retired Decorator Good to hear from you Rhonda, I'm sure I can say we all miss ya ! I love air plants. Where were you thinking of hanging them ? How big is it ?

rhondagoodwin I have not decided that yet. I was thinking I could make my own frame or do plates with the plants glued to the centers... Just an idea because I love plants in the house and these seem to be very east to take care of

groveraxle How about in the dining room?

groveraxle Some more cool air plant ideas:

oneofeleven http://pinterest.com/pin/234750199299071107/ Here is an example of vertical plantings

Kevin Retired Decorator They look cool in hanging or table top terrariums too. And would be nice in the dining room corner GA was thinking. Really any where.

groveraxle All quiet on the Rhonda front...

Rhonda, how's the patching and painting coming along? I expect you're tired of living in a construction zone. Any updates? Have you received the backsplash tile? Want me to come over and install it?

rhondagoodwin Ya the tile came in and I asked my son in law to install it since he just did his kitchen not to long ago.
He is almost finished fixing the walls, a few surprises under them... Not good, so another wall needed to be completely sheet rocked. Our new back door came in. Pretty much everything is here even the living room rug. Just waiting for him to finish the walls so we can start painting.
Seemed like we were going really fast and then hit low gear, I guess he is doing the best he can.
I promise when something new happens I will post pictures.

oneofeleven thanks for the update Rhonda, there's lots of time left as I recall in your original posting you said you wanted it done by the end of the year!

studio10001 In the meantime, I found what the shoe table is missing:
http://marjorieskourasdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Gilded-Titi.jpg

rhondagoodwin OMG !!! Studio10001. LOL where do you all find this stuff?

groveraxle Oooh, nice chair, studio. It could use this cushion though, I think: http://www.babble.com/babble-voices/night-of-the-living-dads-charlie-capen-andy-herald/files/2013/03/Butt-Pillow.jpg

studio10001 First pillow I've ever seen w cellulite!

Kathryn Peltier Design That is GROSS. I wouldn't want to hold it in my lap, lol, let alone rest my head on it.

rhondagoodwin Woul you believe that this was actually being sold at a yard sale today... LOL

Kevin Retired Decorator that is like the the odd fact you saw it but not the table.... lol

oneofeleven I would have been tempted to buy it if the price was right :), I think one of my daughters would have loved it.

studio10001 Unbelievable!!!!! Rhonda, did you buy it?!?!

groveraxle Rhonda, I think you should start over with anatomical furniture. Then you can dress your tables and chairs according to whatever mood suits you. You'll never have to redecorate OR hang up your clothes again.

Kathryn Peltier Design This has real possibilities, G.A.....

rhondagoodwin Studio, sorry no I didn't.
G.A. The idea of never having to redecorate is awesome and never hang clothes, unfortunately I think I will pass on this idea

groveraxle Surely there's a table here you have to have. And if your son-in-law hasn't done the backsplash yet, perhaps you might consider a whole wall of these tiles.

Kathryn Peltier Design I would be scared if I went into someone's home and they had one of those tables and baby tiles on the wall. Ewwwww.....

studio10001 I'm ordering some for the next shower I get invited to!

groveraxle Kathryn, good thing I thought twice about posting the chair with the guts spilling out of it. Your "ewwww" threshold is pretty low. I guess that's why you are the designer and I was the middle school teacher. Middle school science makes one look at icky-poo in a whole new way.

studio10001 Well,now you have to show - post the address, and Kathryn, look away!

Kathryn Peltier Design Yeah, G.A. - the worms were bad but the fetal pigs were EWWWWWWWWWWW!

trishlovesdecor It seems to be a room that could be decorated to look cozy without looking too outdated. Because its not very large, using lighter colour furniture etc would make the space seem bigger. So the white chairs are a good choice. I would remove a lot of the picture frames from the walls. Simply because it adds too much clutter. In a smaller space, I would go for a few large decor items, rather than many small ones. I would stick to a nice theme when choosing colours and add beautiful accents to your home. I am a huge fan of cushions, as they are so easy to add. And they can be used to create any mood you like. Recently bought some lovely cushions from this website called www.zahaarasanctuary.com. They post worldwide very cheap.

Then I would add matching wall decor. not many, a few large ones placed on one central wall. I would stay away from wooden frames wall decor... because there's already so much wood in the room. Frameless canvases would make the place seem more friendly and less official, if you know what I mean. To reduce the feel of clutter, I would use large images with little detail. That would give the feeling of airiness and spaciousness....

oneofeleven OK, who wants to take this?

peginvalpo When is it time to "just give up?"

oneofeleven Come on, if we're going to continue to cruise the aisles of Houzz discussions we need to clean up the "messes" as we go along.

Dana Veach On your mark, oneofeleven...!! Rhonda welcomes helpful comments and suggestions, but it would be nice if new participants would read to find out what has already been suggested or tried before jumping in since this thread has been an ongoing one for 4 + months now...there have actually been several ideabooks...from Rhonda and from groveraxle...devoted to the work that has taken place on this project. (Check their pages for updates...) Thanks for joining us.

catieb .......shooting fish in a barrel.
Do these people not get a clue when they scroll down for ten minutes to get to the bottom?

oneofeleven thanks catieb, a kindred spirit?

groveraxle @studio, here is the chair you requested: http://www.anatomybox.com/tag/anatomy-furniture/

Kathryn, look away! Even I find this one has a bit too much ewwwwwww factor.

Kathryn Peltier Design I just seriously don't know what to say...:-O

carolins eww for the chair (and giggles), but the bicycle is seriously funny. Well, I think it is anyway :-)
http://www.anatomybox.com/skeleton-bicycle/

Kevin Retired Decorator EEEEWWWWW YUCK ! ME Too , Thank God you didn't post the chair Pic it self. Sorry I looked at all. lol I hated Biology and Science and now can recall why.

oneofeleven thanks GA, that was yewwwwwww in a good sort of way. i pinned it under my "strange accessories ' board.

groveraxle Kathryn and Kevin: the squeamish twins. LOL

Kevin Retired Decorator Great Minds think a like ! LOL

studio10001 (Groveraxle, I choose to think he just called you and I geniuses!)

studio10001 Anybody want to see the matching sofa.......?

Kevin Retired Decorator LOL

studio10001 I'm sure that means 'yes'. Look away, chickenhearts! :

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Cao-Hui-9.jpg

and the side chair w ottoman:
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4797582572651712&pid=15.1

:)))

studio10001 Night,all -sweet dreams!!

rhondagoodwin Great picks, and I will definately keep them in mind when the Zombie Apocolyps starts... LOL
Nothing like guts and gore,
Meanwhile I did order this, of course nothing in comparison to all your finds, but it is for the printer and will be placed on the wall with the air conditioner. Measurements are...29"W x 14"D x 30"H.
I was going to get the console one like this, but didn't want it to interfere with the dinette set, this one will fit under the air conditioner, and not take up space behind any dining room chairs.

Kevin Retired Decorator Great looks,Great size ! And knowing you Rhonda a great price ! I love the doors on the console !

rhondagoodwin Yep, I think so ... One kings lane, which I think are very expensive... $229.00 30% off... So I paid $185 with tax and shipping

groveraxle Great find, Rhonda, though I have to admit I'm sensing you don't really need us anymore. As long as you humor us and show us everything as it gets done, I'll be a happy camper. I am looking forward to the big reveal.

allcast Good job, young Grasshopper. Am I dating myself with a 1970s quote from "Kung Fu"?

Kathryn Peltier Design "Ah, so" allcast, but I think you're in good company for the reference lol!

rhondagoodwin Don't worry I will always need my distant friends, I will definately post everything as it goes... The walls. We're a real mess, so that is what the hold up is.
My son in law is suppose to install my backsplash this weekend and well I guess we have to wait a couple of days before grouting, as soon as that is done you will get a picture. I am really trying not to buy anything else, but when I saw that table, it seemed perfect and definately the right color. I can put a basket under it for the grandbabies books and puzzles.

oneofeleven I hear ya Rhonda but looking doesn't cost anything right
https://www.jossandmain.com/Zodiac-Gemini-Mara-End-Table~ILH1150~E4733.html

Lyn Reeves I've been monitoring, hovering over, (stalking?), this post for the last few weeks. It's like listening to a group of good friends who are having a grand ol' time, helping one of their friends with her decorating. If I hadn't been reading along, I would swear that y'all live near each other and have known each other for ages! I just wanted to say that I must be even more invested in this discussion than I thought, because while I was on the one kings lane site last night, I saw the piece that Rhonda ordered for her printer, (before she posted that she'd ordered it), and thought to myself, "gee, I'll bet Rhonda could use that somewhere!" LOL I also wanted to let you know how much I'm enjoying this discussion. You all are so much fun, I'm learning a lot, and I look forward to the next post from someone suggesting that Rhonda paint the paneling white so that 1of11 can vent! :)

Dana Veach Yep...that's why I kind of "took" the last of those "suggestions"...oneofeleven should have a rest sometime from the unsuspecting souls who venture in unheeding...she's been the defacto guardian of the thread...we're all grateful...keeps the rest of us from blowing gaskets on a regular basis! (Besides...I haven't actually contributed much else to the discussion other than following along...lurking, so to speak...)

Laurie Roots You all are amazing. Traded General Hospital for this thread. Rhonda, your home is looking beautiful. Glad you didn't paint your paneling ;)

Go Nautical Collections If you are looking for nautical theme decor, please check http://www.gonautical.com

oneofeleven Hi Rhonda, I just read an article about floor cloths and the article suggested using a floor mat under it.

rhondagoodwin What type of floor mat???

oneofeleven it was a floor mat she had made from a table cloth and several coats of urethane. it sounded like the one you had made.

oneofeleven duh, i just realized you asked me about the mat, not the rug. She said it was an inexpensive mat from Walmart. She attached it with double sided tape but suggested you could also use spray adhesive if your mat had a dense weave.

Kevin Retired Decorator Floor mats for rugs of any kind keep the rug from slipping around and in place. Walmart have reasonably priced ones. Sort of like a waffle latex pad. With your Prego type floors rugs do slide some on them, some more than others. There is also a benefit of a bit more cushion with a pad. I would get one for sure with your floor cloth in the dining room because of the use keeping in place. Depending on the weight of the living room rug you may need one there to.

JWinteriors Why are we discussing mats and adhesives on a designers page?

Dana Veach Because we're discussing a real space that real people have to live in without breaking their real necks on rugs sliding out from under them???

Kevin Retired Decorator @JW part of a well decorated room is function and Rhonda is down to finishing her entire 1st floor so why wouldn't we be talking about what the clients final need are at this point ?

Kevin Retired Decorator PS @ JW this isn't a designers page either ! It is a friendly chat of dilemmas and Houzz questions.

jayapple21 Good advice, Kevin and Dana. Those waffle latex pads are great. I bought a larger one a couple of years ago and continue to cut it to various sizes for different purposes. I have it under the small washable rugs in both bathrooms; I've cut pieces just slightly smaller than the loose dining room chair cushions and placed them under the cushions to prevent sliding; I've use pieces as a gripper to open tight jar lids; I even put a piece over the end of a broom handle, secured it with a rubber band, and used it to unscrew a broken light bulb from its socket. It's an inexpensive item with a lot of uses.

janax loving reading this discussion, can't wait to see the finished pics. The new console is going to look great with the green chair.

Go Nautical Collections Those chairs absolutely marvelous ......

Kathryn Peltier Design Happy Memorial Day to Rhonda and all her peeps! :-)

rhondagoodwin Thank you Kathryn same to you and all my PeePs on here...
Here is a sneak peak of my backsplash. My son in law came over after he got off work today and started it.

studio10001 Woo-hoo!!!!!

Susan H I love it, Rhonda! I think you definitely made the right choice!

studio10001 (It's like the night before Christmas, when you get to open just one gift!)