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by Saverio
5 months ago in Design Dilemma
80's Laminate Cabinet Kitchen Update Advice
I just bought a new house and I'm planning some small projects to get done before my wife and I move in. The kitchen is in good condition, but it could badly use an update. So far the plan is to tear up the laminate tile flooring and expose the hardwood underneath (we're removing all of the carpets/laminate in the entire house and stripping, staining everything one color). We're thinking of going with a dark brown for the flooring.

The problem is the cabinets: based on my research, the best plan I've come up with is to re-laminate them or to paint them (leaning towards painting them). We were thinking a dark charcoal for the base cabinets and a white or shade of grey for the top. I also figured I would add some nice flat bar pulls to give them the modern look that my wife and I love. Where I'm stuck is the "wood" trim and what to do with it. Do I paint it all one color, do I paint it a different color? Will it look weird to have the pull handles AND the flat bar pulls on the cabinets/drawers? Can I cover them up/remove them? Any ideas would be awesome.
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Cynthia Taylor-Luce Can you possible replace these? I know these 80's cabinets very well. A good friend of mine had them and the doors kept falling off because the area where the hinges were attached was crumbling and would no longer support them. They scream 80's whether they're relaminated, or painted, or covered in gold dust! LOL

If you are handy, I would highly recommend Ikea cabinets. They are stylish and not too difficult to install, but you do have to assemble them. I would also recommend that you remove the bulkhead because this really dates the kitchen too. Your cabinets could be much taller if you do.

If you can't afford to do all this right now, then I'd recommend you put this on your list to work toward. I do not believe there is a quick fix for this kitchen.
5 months ago · ·
Saverio Replacing them is something I'm still open to, but to be honest, the cabinets are structurally sound and I figured I would try and salvage them first. I was able to adjust the hinges (they're actually fairly good hinges) and everything is in good shape.

I agree with you on the bulk head. It is definitely going to go either way. If I keep these, I figured I could at least remove it and cap the cabinets with some nice crown moulding.

New ikea cabinets are going to run at least $3k, and they'd probably be great looking in here, but since a full remodel isn't far down the line, I'm really just looking to get a bit more time out of these.
5 months ago · ·
Cynthia Taylor-Luce Understood, Saverio. I just have a visceral reaction to these particular cabinets (the style, I mean) and couldn't help myself saying they MUST GO! LOL

Of course you must do what you think best for you personally.
5 months ago · ·
Saverio Haha no worries! The only thing worse than the cabinets is the flooring and countertop/backsplash combo. The previous owner told me "We actually WANTED laminate countertops....I like the look of them much better than granite or any other sort of stone" and I had to hold back laughter.
5 months ago · ·
Cynthia Taylor-Luce Chuckling here at your anecdote... Yes, it sure takes all kinds... But this is your house now, and you'll raise it up and make it your castle (in due course). Then you can post on the 'before and after' discussion group!
5 months ago · ·
Bonnie You could look into having them painted professionally with a spray gun. The paint will last longer and will look much nicer. Are you going to replace the counter tops? If your going to paint the bottome cabinets a darker grey, you could pick a grey that is lighter to paint the wood trims. It would blend with both the white upper cabinets and charcoal grey lower cabinets. I sure hope you are going to replace the floor too. Since the cabinets have built in handles I would not spend more money on additional handles for the cabinets.
5 months ago · ·
Saverio Yep, I'm going to ditch the countertops. Not sure with what just yet. Possibly some butcher block or maybe a dark stone/concrete.

I like the idea of playing with the shades of grey for the trim.
5 months ago · ·
Darzy If you want modern look, I'd paint them all white, with no handles. All clean lines. If you want the lower cabinets gray, that would be nice, but no hardware anywhere. You could do a high gloss on the wood trim area for looks, and easier to keep clean.

5 months ago · ·
Bonnie your other option would be to paint the bottom a darker grey with light trim and the upper with a lighter grey and dark trim. One thing you need to be careful with a galley kitchen is going dark on the floor. It makes it look very dark in the room and smaller. I have a gally kitchen and we now have light floors and it looks like it has more space. If you decide to replace your counter tops you could get the white ones with specs of glass in it to give the room a little color and then may a multi colored back splash. If you get new counter tops, get an under mount stainless steel sink, looks much better then the over mounted sink. I would also go with either all stainless appliances, or my preference would be black/stainless mixture on the appliances so their easier to keep clean than all stainless. A nice light aqua or teal color would look great on the walls and would look nice with the grey cabinets. I don't know what your favorite colors are since you didn't mention that.
5 months ago · ·
Darzy Install a really fun chandelier in the eating area. People will say..what a great chandy, instead of...aren't those 80s cabinets? lol


5 months ago · ·
ruthmand Honestly, you may be best off just putting up with this kitchen until you can do it right. By the time you put in new flooring, countertops, paint the cabinets, etc. you will have spent quite a bit of time and money and it still won't look great nor be the kitchen you really want. And please don't add crown molding to this style of cabinetry.
5 months ago · ·
apple_pie_order You can paint the wood trim/handles the same color as the white laminate. A professional painter would be be able to advise you on whether painting the laminate is likely to work well for a few years. Painting the wood trim handles is easy. Adding extra pulls will look silly. Maybe upgrade the kitchen sink faucet instead if you don't like it.

Chances are that this is the tip of the '80's iceberg. There may be more important things than the kitchen remodel to spend money on now.

Eventually, soffits will be back in style, and so will retro '80's kitchens.
5 months ago · ·
onthefence I was thinking the same as Darzy and using the small tab pulls shown in her photo.

The bar pulls are gorgeous - but they're murder on pockets. You learn to develop a certain bizarre stance when standing close to them.
5 months ago · ·
Bonnie I took your current kitchen and changed the colors in photo shop, just to give you an idea for colors only.
5 months ago · ·
Saverio Haha, great advice all around.

Not looking to dump a lot of cash into something temporary. I think a high gloss paint on the cabinets and just swapping out the countertops will go a long way. Just need to get this to the point where I can look at it without being sad haha.

apple_pie_order, It's funny you mention the "tip of the 80's iceberg", as there are a few other items on my list that are also getting done before the move in. I've already done a fair bit of wallpaper removal and still have another 2 rooms to do (including the bathroom ceiling and doors!).
5 months ago ·
Bonnie We laminated our cabinets and once you do that, you have to be careful with appliance that get hot, like a toaster, toaster oven, coffee maker could make the laminate on the new cabinets peel. I found that out the hard way.
5 months ago · ·
onthefence It seems a high gloss on everything will go a long way toward making this a not sad kitchen.

One thing I've read (you've probably seen the same) it's recommended to NOT remove the trim. Most likely MDF is what is underneath and doesn't paint well. Then you have a whole new surface to try to improve.
5 months ago ·
Saverio bonnieinca, thanks for putting that together. I think the dark grey bottoms + white tops will really change the look. The ivory color just reminds me so much of old electronics which brings me back to the 80's: http://oldcomputers.net/pics/appleii-system.jpg

I'll keep the heat concerns in mind if we go down the laminating route.
5 months ago ·
Saverio onthefence, completely agree. MDF is ugly and hard to work with and I'm 99% sure if I remove the trim, I'm going to destroy the structural integrity of the doors/drawers since these cabinets tend to be fragile and aren't designed to come apart from that MDF backing.

Question: Is it realistically feasible to get that "high gloss" look with paint on the cabinets/trim? I'm assuming I can achieve the look I want with a few coats of poly and a final coating of enamel spray.
5 months ago ·
wendolynn Hi, I have an idea. I don't know if this would work because I can't see the detail of the cabinets but look at the wood pulls and see if you could nicely cut the lip, ( pull part off), still leaving a good portion of the wood on the cabinet and paint the whole door your desired color. Another idea, is to play around with a dowel rod, it might fill that space and then the wood trim would look purely decorative. Still think whole cabinet should be one color.
I am with you on painting these cabinets now and not living with them until they can be replaced. So many great creative things can be done with existing furnishings if you are willing. In my opinion you can't hurt these, anything you do will be an improvement. And you might be an inspiration for others that have these cabinets that great thing can be done with what you have. Can't wait to see your kitchen!!! Good luck!!!!
5 months ago · ·
apple_pie_order Here's a photo of '80's lipped cabinets with the wood trim painted and bar handles:

5 months ago · ·
Saverio Awesome find! Thank you! I think painting the trim and cabinet the same color is the way to go here.
5 months ago · ·
R J Hoppe Inc If anyone has told you you can paint plastic laminate I would run. No lacquer no oil based paint no latex based paint not even zinnser will stick to it. There is a phenolic top coat to plastic laminate. The only chance you have is sanding the living daylights out of the pieces until you get through that top coat. But what about the edges, what about the cabinets?
5 months ago · ·
wendolynn Love the photo from apple pie!!! Looks awesome!!!!
5 months ago ·
Elise Moore Design Agree with RJ. You cannot paint these cabinets. The paint will just peel right off and you will have a big mess. I suggest you just live with them for awhile and start planning your kitchen renovation. By the time you are ready to renovate the kitchen you will know what you want. I think just re-doing the floors is going to be a good start and will go a long way towards making the kitchen look better. Paint the walls a bright white, ditch the chair rail, throw a Persian runner on the floor and it will look very modern.
5 months ago · ·
bbkieffer You CAN paint these cabinets and it WILL work. I had the same cabinets and I followed a 6 step process, but they have held up for 10 years now!
1) Clean/degreaser
2) Sand, add decorative wood rope trim
3) Zinsser primer
4) 2 coats base coat color
5) glaze
6) polycrylic top coat
5 months ago · ·
chris34 I have these same cabinets in the kitchen and 3 bathrooms :) I am also planning a remodel in a few years so I needed to find an inexpensive fix. I painted 1 bathroom and the kitchen cabinets so far. SAND well! I did 2 coats of primer (tinted to paint color) an 2 coats of Sherwin Williams trim paint. Love them! You do need handles though. You will scratch the paint pulling on the painted wood with you fingernails. I did mine several months ago. No problems so far and we cook almost everyday. Btw- I also "faux granite" painted my laminate countertops and had a big holiday party everyone thought they were granite and most of the guests have granite! Wasn't sure if they were just being nice but when I told them I painted them they all said " no you didn't" then went over and touched them. Total cost was under $200.
5 months ago · ·
linda whitlock Rustoleum makes a product call cabinet transformations. Google it. Covers anything. Worth the time
5 months ago ·
jenlcolburn What about taking the cabinet doors off and working with open shelving? Perhaps at least on one wall. This would also make your kitchen look and feel larger.
5 months ago ·
eagledzines Just a thought--you might try painting the soffit the same color as the upper cabinets to make them appear less obvious.
5 months ago ·
Angie Duguay you can paint those cabinet with acrylic primer and acrylic pearl paint i did mine so far no trouble thier is little shine in it love mine
4 months ago ·
njcook53 I agree with the Rustoleum product. I used them on an old, very work bath cabinet (just to test the product) and I really like the end result. I've painted laminate cabinets before and it just peeled off. Good luck!
4 months ago · ·
Bonnie Just remember when you paint a surface like that you need to lightly sand it first so the paint will stick and not peel later on.
4 months ago ·
sayboone I wonder if automotive paint would work.....no idea but I've seen it used on cabinets before to get a smooth, high-gloss look.
4 months ago · ·
Lehman Wood Products Ltd. What about replacing the doors? We refaced a kitchen with this door style recently and use a good quality thermofoil door. The material cost was under $1000.
4 months ago ·
Judy M I had those cabinets once. I can tell you they come in all grades of quality. Ours were very well made and we still use a few of them in the garage for storage. The great thing about ours was they were frameless and offered a ton of storage space.
If they are in good condition, I would definitely consider painting them. I saw a show on TV many years ago and that's exactly what they did, came out great. I'm sure if you goggle or try Youtube, you'll find plenty of info.
4 months ago ·
lisam17 I painted my laminate cabinets and trim all white and then added hardware. They look great! I asked at my local hardware store (not at the big boxes) and they recommended a paint specifically for covering laminate. Sadly, I don't remember the brand, but it did not require any sanding. My kitchen is well-used every day and the paint is holding up really well.
4 months ago ·
pitbulls I would paint the cabinet wood trim white or off white to match the cabinets.Save your money and time for your big redo.
4 months ago ·
Norm Walters Construction Inc. I agree with replacing the doors with thermo foil doors for about $8 a square foot if you do it yourself.
4 months ago ·
Ruth Ann Chaplik-Secreto Yes... Spray paint cabinet doors like said above... , put your money in new or used newer appliances .... & tiling counters isn't that bad until you can replace ... A good accent color that deepens interest like a jewel tone would be good too ! P.S. I have seen thin layers of granite or corian to cover counters &then just buy the bull nose ends & attach ...they will look good as new !
4 months ago ·
eagledzines Be careful of thin granite. It is cut to 1 1/4" to help prevent breakage during installation.
4 months ago ·
Norm Walters Construction Inc. Corian can't be applied to a solid substrate (old countertop) because of expansion and contraction of the material.
4 months ago ·
Urbana ~ Designer Ellen Crystal use melamine paint as will adhere to the melamine /laminate finish. If done well, should last for 5-10 years.. .then on to the new~
4 months ago ·
eagledzines If you wanted to really update the pulls, you can get a metal replacement that's exactly the same shape as the wood ones.

No, it will not affect the structural integrity of the door, even though it's MDF to take the pulls off if they are removed correctly. They would have to be run through a table saw by someone that knows what they are doing. The hardware is glued on and into a groove. It would be cut clean and have to be re-grooved to accept the metal. A nice brushed finish would look nice.
4 months ago · ·
floridamitzy Hi eagledzines! I have the same cabinets and a small kitchen. I like your idea to replace with metal; however, no idea where or what to look for. Any suggestions?
Thanks
Mitzy
4 months ago ·
soberg I have seen people fully paint over both the laminate and the wood area. I didn't care for the look,
but I fully understand wanting to save and reuse what you can. I guess you may as well try it first....and if you hate it, you can still reface or replace.

(This picture gave me flashbacks to the horrible kitchen in my first house. Handyman from hell chose these exact cabinets and installed them himself, apparently without benefit of level or tape measure. The counter seam had a 3/8" gap and I can only imagine what had been growing down there. The oven could only be opened after opening an interfering drawer first. Shudder.......)
4 months ago ·
eagledzines floridamitzy--Here is an article from Retro Renovation revealing three places to buy the metal banding.
http://retrorenovation.com/2011/02/01/3-places-to-buy-metal-edging-for-kitchen-countertops/
4 months ago ·
mamaloulove ok.......this is what I would do....paint everything white....the floor looks fine to me..then paint all walls a mint blue because then you see the beautiful color and the cleanliness of the white...yellows would be a great accent ...
4 months ago ·
lapetitemel19 I actually am looking for cabinets with built-in handles like that!! But all one color. :)
10 days ago ·
chris407 I have these cabinets too. I was wondering if I could take thin pieces of wood, maybe 2 inches wide, and line the outside of the cabinets which would cover the wood trim. This would give the cabinets a simple shaker style look. After the wood strips cover the top, bottom and sides of each door, they could all be painted. Lastly, I would want to add simple pulls in keeping with a shaker style cabinet. Does anyone have any ideas as to how this could be done?
8 days ago ·
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