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by tybates
4 months ago in Design Dilemma
Need help with woman cave
I have just moved in my first house and am trying to figure how to decorate my "women cave" that will be use for home office/lounge/ girl night entertainment. There are several issues with this room that I have no clue how to make cohesive into a space that I want to call my woman cave. 1. prickly stucco on every wall including ceiling. 2. the only wall not covered in stucco is the real wood wall to either side of fire place which leads down to cabinets with the same materials. 3. brown faux styrofoam beam on ceiling. 4. Pergo flooring (i think). 5. just added a false wall over working wood burning fireplace where i wanted a t.v. to recess in but not sure if i did it right. 6. no clue what to finish the fireplace with.

I am not a designer and have been looking at pictures to get idea, but have no clue where to begin. I did have a person come over to pick colors and she suggested BM wedgewood grey and chantiliy lace, do you agree?? I like the color but just can't picture it. I like the wood walls but afraid its too cottage looking if painted white and don't want to have to tear it down. can it be covered or updated to look more modern. I wanted to use what I have to update the space. Not opposed to buying or changing somethings to create cohesion. Looking for a glam/elegant/mod feel but still comfortable and contemporary. I have already started with some furniture and layout and not opposed to DIY projects. The desk is primed and ready for paint

Can you help?? Any ideas would do.
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Bonnie Here are some pics of Benjamin Moore Wedgewood Gray and Chantilly Lace is the last pic.

It is a fairly bluish gray. I think it would look nice with your woods but I would paint a large sample on poster board and look at it in different lights to see if you like it. You don't say what surfaces the designer suggested painting the Gray versus Chantilly...


4 months ago ·
tybates she suggested I paint the trim and ceiling white and everything else blue including the wood. Does that sound right? I did paint a poster the wedgewood grey and it looks fine. I am just so nervous about painting the whole room one color. Don't want too much of a blue like in the bathroom picture. And leery of making a mistake in painting the wood. I love the living room picture but my sofa is more greyish beige color and not the warm beige as in the picture.
4 months ago ·
Barbara Griffith Designs You are not ready to choose a paint color just yet. Color choice should be last after you have chosen all your fabrics and patterns.

I like the wood on the fireplace wall. I like the faux beams. Not so excited about the floor. I would look for a very large rug with maybe large scale swirls and with color. This will give some curved lines to compensate for all the straight lines in the room. I love the 2 small chairs, I would use one at the desk and the other nearer the wood wall with a chest/credenza of some sort between with a lamp on it, and choose a large round mirror over the chest/credenza on desk wall, flank the mirror with 2 matched framed pictures (2 on each side). Move the chair from the corner to where the small chair on the right side of the fireplace is located.

The rug and bright pillows on chair & sofa will then tell you exactly what the wall color should be. Imagine choosing all of this after you chose, say blue for your walls...NOT. I would suggest a natural color, simple grasscloth for the walls. It is very warm and inviting, but also sophisticated. Put the color in the rugs, chairs, pillows and artwork.

Maybe add a very large tile travertine to the fireplace surround. You could add tall shelves on the wood panels (tall to display collected art objects and books. Or, leave them as is and add very large colorful art pieces. Hang working draperies in place of the verticals..simple plain textured fabric, very neutral on a rod as high as possible and way off to the sides for stacking when you have them open or want to use the door.
4 months ago · ·
bigplanet747 I just finished my woman cave - divorced and making my own home! I painted my walls in a light, almost blue looking dove gray and used a pale yellow inside shelves and for other accents. I used bright white trim for baseboards and around windows to make the pretty gray walls stand out. I complimented this with a sky blue linens and natural wood furniture. I love the end result. My home is peaceful, earthy and just pretty to come home to. It's a girly look - but a neutral beauty at the same time.
4 months ago ·
carole stucco;is usualy there because it hides a multitude of sins,if you really cant live with it,chissel it off back to brick and get a plasterer to redo the lot,same with the ceiling!!!it is a very messy job!! for the decorating continue the white wall next to the fireplace,then you could paint just the woodencabinets and get the biggest cream rug,you have some good furniture and love the fotoos in the ideabook!!
4 months ago ·
selective I think the grey is a bit too blah for the room. You have chosen beige furniture so you need something to warm up the room. Below are a couple of suggestions. Also, you may want to think about doing a nice wallpaper as an accent wall on the Green wall (example below), in the right color to match the paint. This would add interest to the room. As far as the stucco, I'm afraid you will need to sand it down. If you leave a little texture through, you may get an interesting texture to the walls when painted. You could try a small section before you sand all the wall/walls. Good Luck, it's a nice room you will enjoy it.
4 months ago ·
nikitasmom Depending on how many girls are hanging out you might be able to add cushions on top of the cabinets fon right side or additional sitting. Large artwork over it. Floating shelves on the other which could hold glassware, ice bucket, colorful mix bottles, etc. I liked your inspriation image with the desk. You could add a chandelier in between the lights against the wall and float your desk facing the room underneath it. Exchange the chair next to the patio window with the larger one in the corner.
4 months ago · ·
Chandani The bones of the room say "zen" or "midcentury" to me. Would you be interested in moving toward that direction? If so, I think you could work with the couch, chair in the corner and desk, but not the two arm chairs (which are quite beautiful).
4 months ago ·
mkittaka women don't make caves. we create tree houses. airy spaces filled with light. creative use of space with lots of built-ins. we just painted our small kitchen with SW Color Name: Collonade Gray
Color Number: 2 7641. definitely a tree house gray.
4 months ago · ·
DIAspoton i'd experiment with stains to get a very pale gray, weathered barn board look on the wood wall. leave the fireplace white. paint the other walls a VERY light,soft gray. put in a much larger rug with rich texture and a tone on tone pattern in off white or gray. i can't tell what material the black is on the ledges flanking the fireplace but they'd look better and enlarge the room if they were white.
not a fan of the 'pops of color'. seems dated. move the 2 chairs to one side of the sofa and the cream chair to the other. get rid of the little stuff on the desk wall. invest in a great, huge mirror, maybe 6'H X 3"W with a heavy but feminine frame. lean it to right of center. straighten desk.paint it white then use a pewter glaze. or go bold and go over the white with silver leaf. add a great chair. install a small crystal chandelier over it.
natural burlap on the windows for a more organic feel.
add bling with more interesting floor lamps with lot's of crystal. accessorize with shine: silver, ceramic,glass.
now bring in color with original art. if you've never collected, it's fun. go to small galleries and festivals. meet the artists. learn the stories and inspiraton behind the paintings,sculpture,photography, crafts. build the room over time. it doesn't have to be expensive.
ck out restoration hardware and ballard designs for inspiration. have fun!
4 months ago · ·
Bargain Backer We have some very nice decor and electronics that would go great in the new "woman cave".
Here is a link to our decor: http://www.bargainbacker.com/Decor-_c_8.html
Looks great!
4 months ago ·
tybates Thanks for the comments on the two chairs. I picked them up from a consignment shop where I live. I like the wedgewood grey color, its fine but agree it's just so, so. You can see the poster board I painted in that color above the sofa in one pic.

-Barbara Griffith Designs- I like your ideas and will try out the layout. I agree with needing a rug but was not sure how large. Should it cover the room or just the sofa area. Should I get another rug for credenza area chair?

-nikitasmom- cushions on the cabinets??? They may be a little high for seating. They are approx. 30 in. high or more. I do love your idea about the shelving. What do you think about glass shelves? and the chandelier idea I love. I was thinking that too. i would need to use a swag chandelier because the cost to install may be too much right now. I have in a home depot recessed lighting conversion pendant lamp there now. I tried to have the desk facing front but it seems to protrude into the open passage way.

-Chandani- I really want to use the two arm chairs but need to look up "zen/midcentury".
hope that is not to dark because i want open and airy.

I have been looking at the stainless steel surround what do you think? And speaking of passageways any idea on how to close the space temporarily when I am ready? Another dilemma--color,color, color. So far I have been living in drab white wall apartments. Now, I'm terrified to color but know that I really want color. I like jewel tones and red but just really like the luxury, elegant, comfortable feeling.
4 months ago ·
Endgrain Architecture Embrace the wood ! It looks good specifically because it is applied to the wall AND cabinet. Treat it like an art installation and don't cover it up with any art... or it will look like a log cabin. Just utilize the top surface of the cabinet for display of well-appointed accessories. And, I can't tell from the photos, but if the wood is rough, it could be made more refined and elegant by sanding it and putting a clear, matte finish on it (you could do this yourself with a palm sander..... but it's messy and it would be best separate your working area out with a plastic barrier). And, yes, get as big of a rug as your money can get you to cover the floor.
The beams on the ceiling are a problem because they are not making any alignments with the space in relation to the fireplace and the doorways into the room.... so if you can remove them, great. If not, paint to match the ceiling to minimize them.
4 months ago · ·
Ramona I love stucco and cannot imagine why it is out of style. Maybe I can pick up a retirement home people are shying away from. Grey, grey, grey. So sad. I agree that you are not ready to pick the wall color till you pick fabrics, etc. If I were going to go with the grey, I would definitely stain the wood grey too. I actually like the new greys but when every color question is answered by 'grey,' I really can't buy it. I also agree about neutralizing the ceiling beams. Is the flooring the same in the rest of the house.
4 months ago · ·
tybates The flooring is different in the rest of the house. There is a greyish blue and white vinyl flooring in the hallway which serves as the entrance to the space. You can see the two open passageways in the pictures. The color consultant said the wedgewood grey picks up the color in the vinyl so that should be the color of the room, since you can see it from the door. The wedgewood grey actually looks more blue than grey. The living room has low pile beige carpet. She chose winter solstice for that room. And grey tint for the hall outside of my woman cave or "treehouse" if you will.
4 months ago · ·
Endgrain Architecture I wouldn't be so concerned about letting a color in your vinyl floor dictate the color of wall paint. Unless, of course, you love that vinyl floor and the color in it! But, I should say that I have used a color very similar to the Wedgewood Grey and it is a very beautiful color that is calm, balances the wood, great with other colors (like the beige sofa, pink pillows, black & white cubes, etc. in the pics), AND people with all skin tones look really great against it.
You can check a project on my page"Hollywood Manor" where we used that similar Wedgewood Grey, but the walls in the photo look more washed out then reality.
4 months ago ·
Barbara Griffith Designs I would try to cover a large portion of the floor with a rug..it will expand the feel of the room.
4 months ago · ·
nikitasmom I would suggest you take additional photos of your fireplace and create a new discussion for just that. The only thing I came up with was to create a wrap around mantel. You could use stainless steel tile below it as you suggested. Add a shelf above the television to break up the large gap, or if you remove the beams add a false front to frame the tv and add an artpiece.

I did suggest the cushions as a way to girly up the dark wooden walls and to provide emergency seating options. I am not a fan of glass shelves but think they would look nice. Just make sure they are floating with minimal hardware showing.

The prickly walls may have been a sandmix texture that is added to paint. You could try lightly sanding a small area down in the corner to see if that is an option.

For the doors you may again want to take photos from the hallway looking in and from the room looking out to show wall clearances. I thought a barndoor style would be great until I noticed the intercome and light switches. French doors would have to open into your entryway and there are bifold doors as well.
4 months ago ·
tybates Well I am niw considering finishes for the fireplace. Keep the exsiting furniture what do you suggest? I was thinking shiny glass ceramic tiles to glam it up a bit. However nothing in this room suggests "glam". I want it to look glam but comfortable. What accessories and finishes on the fireplace will give me glam? Or should I stick with the current feel which I am absolutely clueless as to what it is called.
4 weeks ago ·
Brenda how much of the freplace are you thinking of tiling? do you have any current photos of the space?
4 weeks ago ·
KShoa When you're ready for art (you'll need some nice ones there) check out my work. I carry hundreds of configurations of canvas prints and originals: https://www.etsy.com/shop/katshoa

Good luck!
4 weeks ago ·
carole please,could you put in a picture? here is what i would consider GLAM for a fireplace....
4 weeks ago ·
calikym I like the bright white you have right now on the fireplace so I would actually stick with white, VERY plain but also crisp. It's super simple but since the walls adjacent are so busy, it looks super mod! Just run all your electric there and afterwards, deal with what to put on top of the faux wall.
4 weeks ago ·
calikym Deal with what to put on there later. But you do need to be sure that the material you used around there is okay with wood burning around it. I would probably get someone in there and not DIY
4 weeks ago ·
mkittaka hi tybates, wow i love the diagonal wood walls & we have a similar wood burning fireplace layout in our family room. we put a large framed Hmong fabric piece of art above the fireplace. the stucco walls sound scratchy. do u have young children? i just got home from gym so i will write you later and even try to send u a pix of our fireplace. i am a newbie so getting a pix to you will be a new skill 4 me.
4 weeks ago ·
It's a Beautiful World! Not sure if you would like to add modern art to your room. If yes, you could check out our Houzz page for some art ideas. Enjoy and good luck finishing your room!... Raisa
4 weeks ago ·
tybates Take a look at my ideabook. Do I have a set style? Is it glam? I'm totally clueless. I like the wood walls but also the glitz of glam. Would they mesh well together. The fireplace is not finished. The white there is drywall mud to cover nails.
4 weeks ago ·
tybates I'm fairly new myself mkittaka. The walls are scratchy and I do have children. I want a way to update them without a big price tag. The problem with this room is too many texture,, ie. Wood wall, scratchy stucco walls, faux wood beam ceiling with same stucco and parquet flooring.....Then to add some sort of glass tile to the fireplace? My delimma is how do I make them cohesive or what do I change to get that look without breaking the bank. I just purchased the house and want to make it nice for upcoming housewarming. I think the wood walls are unique and would like to enhance them for an updated look.
4 weeks ago ·
studio10001 I think a matte finish is called for here, and would look at metallic tiles, or the softest, plainest slate you can find.
4 weeks ago ·
bevballew I would keep the wood which will work. It will be a great look with what you want. You have a nice look to start with with your furniture also! Look forward to the journey!
4 weeks ago ·
libradesigneye tyb - What if you did a herringbone pattern on the whole fireplace elevation with some gorgeous stone in maybe 4 x 16 sized pieces. I'm thinking of crema marfil marble or vein cut travertine and not in a mosaic with busy herringbone at small backsplash scale but large pattern that is sized / scaled to repeat across your fireplace. See this attached Ann Sacks pattern of chevrons to get the concept - a tile layer can replicate herringbone for you - it is a little different that these chevrons with angled ends - see the 1 x 12 travertine on the second image floor - i found that at http://homedecorbudgetista.blogspot.com/2011/09/bathroom-inspiration-tile-shop.html so you can look at it from different vantage points. That would sort of echo the wood angles and honor it, but also make it feel deliberate and stylish by repeating the pattern.

I would wash the wood with one coat of whatever taupe / gray / greige / tan paint you choose without priming. The grain will read through, but you will get some gorgeous cream, taupe, grays as the neutral paint softens the reds in the wood tone, but the grain reads through. As far as paint color, I do think you will like the blue-gray, but then I guess I see that won't be terrific with the red accents you are showing now.

If you were selecting a rug (sized for the seating grouping is enough) and you chose it like art, would you rather have red than blue? That tells you what shade of paint to test (blue = blue-gray, red = camel / tan) If red is your favorite (and most women look great in red, love it but have to keep it in the gal cave), I say look at classic oriental rugs or even consider a kilim - they have the sort of style that fits perfectly with the wood wall and would elevate it -especially after it becomes a real feature wall from the tan paint wash. Pottery Barn has great kilim pillows too.

If you love the red as your color here, then I would go more towards a camel tone on the wall and to wash the wood - like sw crewel tan. I think having the wood washed (painted one coat with paint that has been watered down just a bit so it can be spread evenly) with a camel or taupe paint like crewel tan or reticence http://www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/color/find-and-explore-colors/paint-colors-by-family/SW6064-reticence/ will give you an amazing result that you will be really pleased with - it pulls some gray tones out of the wood, but since the walls around it are also camel, or gray - it seems like a feature but unified with the whole room rather than apart. You can test this on the inside of the doors on your casework.

With gray paint or camel, I don't see any white paint. If you painted the walls camel, I think I'd paint the ceiling between the beams a soft gray matched to the wood elements that were grayed after the wash. If you go with blue gray, I'd put a beige / off white to match my upholstery. Taupe go one lighter on the ceiling.

The juxtaposition of the wood wall, kilim, your pretty chairs and stone herringbone could be wowsa!
4 weeks ago ·
CMR Interiors & Design Consultations Inc. I'd totally do the wood chevron walls in this finish and the beams.....http://www.bradley-usa.com/furnishings/case-pieces/credenzas-consoles/charlie
4 weeks ago · ·
studio10001 Just saw your last post tybates -Have you checked yet to know if you have additive grit vs sharp stucco? If the former, it can be largely reduced by sanding and painting. Every paint layer disguises more of the grit.
Endgrain gave very good advice re your wood and styrofoam, (While you have the sander out) and the stain color of your wood can be changed to coordinate any way you like. Texture is a good thing, as long as it doesn't cut you, so leave it be on the ceiling, lose the styro, work with the wood and tame the walls.
4 weeks ago ·
yvonnecmartin Probably I am a radical, but if this were my room I would buy a large royal blue carpet, keep the white walls and fireplade, and discard all the red accents. The coffee table would be glass and metal. As for arrangement of seating, that depends on how many you anticipate to entertain.
4 weeks ago · ·
kathleen MK To me the wood walls and faux beams scream MAN cave 70's style and the Parquet floors and the chairs are more Marie Antoinette feminine. What about fabric covering the paneling?
Instead of sanding, it might be easier to skimcoat a smoother texture over the sharp stucco with texture paint.
4 weeks ago ·
mkittaka hi again..do u have time to look at Ann Sacks tile store site? Ann Sacks has some very interesting wood tiles. I like the Thai inspired wood collection. I'm thinking you could eyeball how Ann Sachs highlights her wood tiles to get ideas for highlighting your diagonal wood walls. i'm half way 2 figuring out how 2 send u a pix of our fireplace. the easy solution is steal my hubbie's iPhone. keep on designing. christine
4 weeks ago ·
tybates Omg. You all have some very good ideas. I like the whole concept of "washing" the walls with paint and having the pattern on the fireplace, Libra. Very detailed. I just have to do some research into some of the terms you used. I am not set on the red pillows. They can be changed. I really don't have a color scheme set. Mkittaka, I will check out Ann Sacks. Fabric sounds like a great temporary change especially since I my house warming is coming up.
4 weeks ago ·
carole -CMRI&DCI your link did not work,hope its ok i've put the picture of charlie,like the look of that very much
4 weeks ago ·
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