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Jayme Hobbs I don't like fake plants. Sorry..that is just me..

Jayme Hobbs But vases/containers with branches, things like that, I do think look good.

solraven I agree w/ Jayme. There's something about artificial plants that just doesn't seem right. I think a real plant would be great for bringing out the green in the rug, but if your mom is against it, then I like Jayme's suggestion of large floor vase with some type of branches. I do like dried eucalyptus with or without other branches in the arrangement. They also make your house smell fantastic! :)

Darzy Jayme...my lap looks good to my little dog!

Jayme Hobbs @Darzy..LOL...I can only see your face in your pic..But I am sure u have a nice lap too!

OSIRIUS DESIGNS good work in transforming your place. Big change. Lot's of great ideas that you went with. That was great to see. Cheers...Now add some ambience with lighting and a plant or two and some objects on your shelving and u r done!

Jayme Hobbs Done, after the dining and bedrooms...LOL!

eclecticoh Lol......we'll see.

eclecticoh Hey , how is my supporters doing ?
Hope you guys are doing good :-)

bevballew All is well! Can't wait to see the lamp and continue with the rest of your house!

Jayme Hobbs Good!! Husband's birthday today...have been running around, decorating etc!! How u r doing eclecticoh?

solraven Happy Birthday Jayme's husband! :) It was gorgeous out today! My carpenter just finished replacing some soffits and fascia boards, now the landscaper is mowing and tomorrow the painter will be by, to work on the exterior. He will soon find out that all those boards that he painted got ripped out and need to be repainted. Ooops! LOL...

How are you doing today eclecticoh? :)

Jayme Hobbs @solraven..thanks..I will let him know!...sounds like u are making progress! Congrats!

solraven @Jayme, it seems just when we can get some fun stuff, we realize that we need to take care of something boring first. We've been here just over a year and would love something other than brown grass. Well, we do have a few nice palms, but one of the healthiest and prettiest is the philodendron, but I am learning that they grew pretty wide and crazy. So, it will likely have to come out soon. :-/

eclecticoh Its great to know that we all are doing well:-)

@Jayme. Happy Birthday to your husband - I hope you guys and the rest of the family enjoy this day as best as you can. Have fun and God Bless.

@Solraven - your also busy working on improving your home to your liking . That's sound fun.

I'm doing good , I have a surprise for you guys in my next update - (Can't wait).
:-)

darcimoss just keep the red sofas and remove the other and then make an L-shape with the 2 red sofas to open up the room

Jayme Hobbs @eclecticoh..awesome..I am on pins and needles!!

eclecticoh @darcimoss - thank you for suggesting , that had already taken place in the design .we're way into progress. If you want you can scroll through the thread.

eclecticoh @Jayme- I know how that is , just do some deep breathing - its just for today. :-)

solraven Oooo... I wonder what it can be?!!! =)

Jayme Hobbs Such anticipation!!

eclecticoh :-)

Jayme Hobbs LOL!

Melissa Eastman Great makeover! But whatever happened in the dining room?

Jayme Hobbs Stay tuned for the next episode..."The Dining Room"...previews to follow....

eclecticoh @Melissa....?.....!the dinning room will or is being taken care of. :-)

eclecticoh Lol.

Debra-Debbie Gilliland-Walters Can't wait!!! I have been watching and reading your thread. I check everyday to see if there's an update. Tells you how exciting my life is. Lol I think we're all as excited as you are.

Jayme Hobbs @Debra...HA ha...We have a following now..must be something exciting! LOL!

Debra-Debbie Gilliland-Walters Jayme I am living vicariously through eclecticoh.

Jayme Hobbs Debra...Me too! LOL

solraven Hmmm.... "the dining room will or 'IS' being taken care of"

bevballew Ditto Debra. Can't wait! I look everyday to see if there is more.

Debra-Debbie Gilliland-Walters Wonder how many more rooms eclecticoh has to go, bevballew? I almost hate to see it end!

bevballew He has the dining room and maybe more! There are a couple of other sites I got hooked on and have not heard in about a week and it is frustrating especially since I have not seen the finished product. This has been one of the more fun ones. You end up,going to other posts....a bit addictive. Start getting to know names so it really does not end!!

Debra-Debbie Gilliland-Walters I can see the addictiveness it can have!

Darzy Jayme...happy hubby birthday and good luck in your new job! Can't wait to see the surprise.

Jayme Hobbs @Darzy..Thanks a lot! You r so thoughtful! I am excited to see the surprise too!

eclecticoh :( .......wasn't lucky enough to find dark lamps. But I found something. Hoping you guys will like it ?

Coming later.........hint its transparent .

eclecticoh OK here is the lamp.

eclecticoh Lamp without flower.

nononanna Wonderful!

eclecticoh Trying to achieve the best out of this lamp........is it working ?

Jayme Hobbs I like the shade/and the size...is it a real plant growing in it?

eclecticoh No .......that a separate piece both glass....I put those together. Artificial plant (looks real thou)

Jayme Hobbs That base would look cool filled with dark sand...I wonder if it could be done? Unplug it first! LOL

Jayme Hobbs Or lava rock

oneofeleven I can see how you might feel that the lamp looks "lonely" and might need something else. Why don't you look around your place to find a few accessories that won't hide the lamp. Maybe some books, or shells , I'm sure you'll find just the right couple of things. :)

eclecticoh @Jayme-Cool idea but it looks like its well fastened.

Jayme Hobbs I wonder if a black spray paint on the shade would define it better?

Jayme Hobbs I ike the lamp..just thought it may get lost against the light walls...

eclecticoh OK I think my mom could help me make a black cover.

Jayme Hobbs You're so talented!

Jayme Hobbs What have I done? Everyone now will hate it...wait and see what other say b4 u paint it please!!!

Jayme Hobbs We r a collaboration now, right? LOL

eclecticoh I am not going to paint it.....would just create a black cover.
It can be remove and wash etc. Lol

solraven @Jayme, LMAO!!! I love reading through this thread, you had me cracking up at "What have I done?" LMAO!! Too funny!

I do agree with you though. The base needs to be dark, solid and grounding. I think a light colored, solid base would look better than a translucent one.

@eclecticoh, I thought of you when I was in Home Goods on Thursday and was just starting to look at the lamps, but got a phone call and needed to meet my carpenter at Home Depot. What's your budget for the lamp?

mytime001 This thread has been very exciting! I wish I had timed myself this afternoon, reading everyone's great ideas. It looks like the Universe has created another Decorator in South Florida!! Can't wait for the final pictures!!

eclecticoh @solraven - I went to home goods today and I didn't see any lamp that we like that would go along with the space.so we drove over the street to tj Maxx and found this.

Darzy yes...funny Jayme! What have you done? Created a monster designer with eclecticho! I love the lamp but sadly I think it's a bit too small for the size of the furniture. Very creative covering the shade with black material eclecticoh!

eclecticoh @Darzy- do you think its just the picture , that reduce the size.( didn't see any larger than this in the store). So you like the shade black?

solraven You know... you asked for pictures of lamps a week ago. Then we all got busy. Darzy did give you a great example. Here are a few bases from Target that I think would work. See how the dark bases make the lamp feel grounded? Then you just need to get a nice, drum, natural lampshade to top it off.


ttp://www.target.com/p/mix-and-match-avington-lamp-base-medium-includes-cfl-bulb/-/A-13816221#prodSlot=large_3_2

http://www.target.com/p/room-essentials-metal-gourd-lamp-base-medium-black/-/A-14343548#prodSlot=large_2_18

http://www.target.com/p/threshold-table-lamp-wrought-iron-globe/-/A-14341971

http://www.target.com/p/black-stacked-resin-medium-lamp-base/-/A-13688424

solraven For a lampshade, something along these lines. I love the burlap because it will tie in the baskets for the entertainment center, if you're getting them, and the dining room table.

http://www.target.com/p/nate-berkus-burlap-lampshade/-/A-14316930

eclecticoh @solraven- would really love to do that. But it is stressful to do returns because I'm busy. Do you think the black shade would help your liking.
My shade looks like the nate berkus burlap lamp shade you posted.

solraven Well, it's you and your mom's liking that is important. For me personally, I think the dark color, up top, feels out of balance, or top heavy. It will also block a lot of the illumination from the bulb, which could be an pro or con, depending on what kind of ambience your parents are looking for.

solraven Returns are a pain, but remember... relax, and take your time. Most of us decorate our rooms over months or years; you're doing it in just a few weeks!

eclecticoh PROGRESS UPDATE : ---
*Added decor on coffee table
*New lamp---
*LARGER TV --- SURPRISE :-)
+------my brother got interested and allow me and him to put money together and bought our parents a TV.
*Entertainment center decor.

NOTE: theses are night pics.
I'll take some day pics when I'm able to.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

eclecticoh More pic.

eclecticoh .

Jayme Hobbs Two sons on board now??? WOW! U 2 r awesome!

Debra-Debbie Gilliland-Walters I love the "knick nacks" you used to decorate with. So sweet of you guys to buy your parents a new TV. Looks great in entertainment center. I like what you did with it as well. Like others have said, I do think your lamp is too small. Looks like it needs to be much taller. You need it taller for balance and because it does look lost size wise and colors are bold in the room so that also makes it get lost. I know it's a pain to return but look how many times you returned the rug and look what a difference it made when you got it right. I think you will see if you try a different size, just what a difference it will make. But everything else is gorgeous. I know you didn't want to hear that about the lamp. Sorree!

Jayme Hobbs OR.... a vase with really tall branches...behind the table with the lamp...natural branches.....would do the trick.

vacox I think it's looking really great! I know the designers on here will have suggestions, but to me it looks like a nice inviting place I'd like to sit down in. Good job!

Jayme Hobbs I think all the designers r gone...lol! The lamp can work if u want to keep it...I don't know that height is so much the issue as is the light shade..from the farther away pics....the lamp doesn't look bad at all...

Jayme Hobbs And the only reason the shade color is an issue is it's lightness...but still ...not bad and better than the other one...Good work!

oneofeleven I like the brass pieces on the end table. The plant on the coffee table is a nice touch but it looks lost on that large plate. Perhaps you could transfer the pot into a bigger decorative one, something with a bit of "weight" as the plant is a little bit small on its own for that size of table. Another suggestion, and it is just a suggestion, is to buy a few matching baskets to put your DVD's in. The focus in the entertainment unit should be your favorite pieces as they are pleasing to the eye, the DVD's not so much.

eclecticoh @oneofeleven- its not only DVDs. It has books , troupies decor etc.
I think a entertainment center should have things that's entertaining lol.
I will look into getting something larger for the coffee table.

I actually can't find my receipt so if I don't find it can't return it.
More importantly , looking at the lamp and we like it. Its different than the other stuff being solid. And its really lighten the space and give it a great feeling( it really stand out) , however it doesn't look cheap . I don't think the camera is doing me justice - the lamp is 22in tall and 25in with books - the shade is 11in wide. so I don't think its small.

I'll try Jayme suggestion of adding tall branches etc.

More pic below.

bevballew Can you take a picture from a distance so we can see it with the sofa and rugs, please? We can tell better then. It is a nice lamp. Maybe fill the glass with red glass pieces. Then you need two things maybe on that table. The turtle is cute and is that a bird.? You might need maybe a picture frame. . Coffee table could use some books and maybe a large bowl with potpourri or something in it. Or a covered box. And maybe a low round container that your mom could put fresh flowers in periodically. You need some bright color. Looking great! This has been a fun post!

irondoors4u what about paint a big picture , such as landscape painting on you wall ?

vacox I think it was a good idea to put the lamp up on books. Makes it a little bigger. And for what it's worth, I liked the darker shade. Some one asked about a picture for the wall, eclecticoh has a nice picture that matches the red couches, you can see it back at the beginning. I think some designers were saying it's too small, but I think if you maybe framed it out with black matting and a frame it would be big enough (I think if it's an oil painting you're not supposed to use a mat, though). I agree with the comment about some books and stuff on the table, and also with using some baskets for the dvds. I do really like the arrangement of stones you did with the plant. Really cute!

vacox I missed your comment before about the entertainment center.... lol. Yes, you're right, that's what it's for and it helps for people to be able to actually see dvds to pick out without pulling out the baskets. It looks very good. Also the bigger TV is great and I bet your parents really love it.

Jayme Hobbs Once I see the shade lit in the room, it does look warm and inviting and has a texture on it...good deal!

Jayme Hobbs If u can find branches taller than the lamp, think it would look bettef :) I have taken branches from my yard even.

eclecticoh A Day pic below.

Ughhh ........I'm thinking how I can put all suggestion together.

These are day pics.

eclecticoh .

eclecticoh @Solraven- do you still holding on to the black solid base after those pictures?
I would love to incorporate all my supporters suggestion.

This lamp draws attention as you enter the door. I think unusually .However , i thought the glass wood be ideal - since everything else is wood etc.I love it being different. At first , I question it - but after I saw the night effects of the lighting , it creates a comfortable ,warm and welcoming feeling.

Jayme Hobbs I am so happy this room looks so much nicer!

solraven A new TV?!! From you and your brother?!!! You're parents must have done something truly right, to have TWO wonderful sons! That's just amazing.... Most 19 y/o's are living w/ hand me down furniture and using milk crates for furniture. It's amazing how well attuned you two are, at your age, to already know how important a nice home is. :)

Raising the lamp with books was brilliant and makes the lamp look much more substantial, plus... I love using books in home decor. I had forgotten about your awning windows (which gave me a clue to your S. FL location :) The silver in the lamp, ties into the aluminum window frames. It's funny, when the light is off, the shade looks off white, but when it's on, it has a deep color and really nice natural texture. :) That's why your eye, is the most important. :)

Now, what would I change? I would remove the plates from under the plant. It's a pretty plant and the plates distract from it's simplicity. I think the plant would look great on the second-to-top shelf, especially if you get a little spot light to go above it.

I would still get either five baskets, drawers or doors, for the bottom row of the Expedit unit. It will give it a unified clean look, and yes, I would put DVD's in there. I saw collapsible baskets, like the ones at Ikea, in Target, not too long ago. They probably still have them. Just check the measurements to see if they will fit and fill the space.

The books I would arrange by color, then height, and keep more of them together. Visually, I think it's more appealing. It's so easy for bookshelves to get messy, and I have found this to be the best way for them to have more visual appeal. I recently pulled down everything on my bookshelves and am almost finished. It still needs tweaking, but it'll give you a good idea of what I mean.

solraven I think you're lamp is fine. Remember, the most important opinion is you and your mom's (and dad's and brother's :)

eclecticoh So what would you replace the plant with.......Ill shop at target because its 6 mins away.
@Jayme. The vase with branches etc would be on the end table with the lamp.

Jayme Hobbs I would put them in a floor vase/container of some type..on the floor in that corner behind the table...

eclecticoh @Jayme you have a example for color and coordination.

Jayme Hobbs I would look for something with some color in it...maybe browns and straw colored..maybe even with a little red? Not too light or it will disappear into the wall...For a vase..maybe a black one?

eclecticoh Thanks.

solraven I usually decorate my coffee table with... coffee table books! LOL... I bet you didn't see that coming. :) I happen to have a lot of books, so it works. Otherwise, I would choose something long and low, like the orchids that used to be on the table. I would prefer them in a lighter color, other than pink, but I thought they looked good on the table. Then you could put your coffee table books on the coffee tbl shelf.

solraven Jayme, what do you think about him extending the curtains? I think that might solve the "missing corner", plus, with the dark curtains on the end, the lamp will contrast against it. =)

eclecticoh @Solraven-Nice suggestion with the coffee table.....was wondering what to put there.
Wow ...you see how the dark curtains coming into effect now .....lol :-)

bevballew I saw a pic on houzz that had a bright shiny red bowl with bright red balls in it. It was gorgeous. I tried to attach it but could not find it. I thought that would look good on your coffee table. The room had red like your room.

solraven LOL!! See, you were right all along! Soon, you'll be helping me with my design dilemmas. :-)

eclecticoh @bevballew - you think we need more red ? The bowl with decor is a good suggestion too.
@solraven-thanks... you think so....lol
How is your home improvement going so far ?

oneofeleven I agree with putting the baskets across the bottom of your media unit (I had suggested that earlier :) ) and with re- arranging your other things. I don't personally agree with colour coding books, I think a mixture of colours and shapes is nice and a little more of a relaxed look. Your living room has a relaxed, casual vibe and I think you should stick with that. I still like the plant on your coffee table (in a bigger container, no plate). How about getting some coasters in a colourful box ( to protect your new table) and some thing to hold your remotes. I think coffee table books are more suited to a formal setting and if you wanted to use the lower shelf, find a basket to hold magazines or things you do read often.

solraven @oneofeleven, you just made my day! You said color grouped books look "not relaxed" so, I'll take that as meaning my books look kind of formal, that coffee table books are formal. For someone who is constantly trying to make things look a little more organized, that's a HUGE compliment! LOL... My book shelves were a catch-all, for so long, and I finally organized them. I did have a friend ask me how I find a book, since they aren't alphabetical. LOL...

solraven @eclecticoh, Yes! I think that dispensing design advice, is in your near future! :)

It started raining, so the painter just left. The home improvements are definitely coming along. I can't wait till we have landscaping! Oh, how I long to see green grass, and beautiful flora... lol

Jayme Hobbs I wish we could not be having a blizzard...LOL!

solraven Oh Jayme! I guess now is not the time to mention that windows are open and I'm listening to the birds chirp. LOL...

Jayme Hobbs @solraven I am listening to the hum of snowblowers...true story..LOL!

solraven Oh my! I do miss the snow, but most of the time it was just cold in the winter and not a gorgeous snow day. Yesterday marked the 7th anniversary of my move to S. FL, a place I had never been, on a whim. :)

Jayme Hobbs @solvaren..with each passing year..moving somewhere warmer gets more enticing!

dianamc29 What if you eliminated the striped sofa sleeper and put the two red couches at 90 degree angle to each other, creating a cozy corner and opening one wall.

eclecticoh Solraven you and oneofeleven confuse me a bit lol............
@Jayme- wow... I would like to experience a blizzard.
I am in the tropics my whole life except from visiting the northern states.

Jayme you saw solraven question.

solraven @Jayme, when I lived up north, I had to either visit someplace warm in January, or get a ski house for the season, and snowboard as often as possible. Visiting someplace warm, made the winter feel shorter, and getting a ski house made me wish the season was longer. :)

solraven @eclecticoh, which part are you confused about?

Have you ever seen snow in real life? My gf, who convinced me to move here, saw snow in PA, on her first visit up north, during a freak April storm. What are the odds?!! I don't even try to visit and see it, in the winter. I know for sure, I'll miss it, and just be really, really cold! I have FL blood now. There's just no warming me up!

Jayme Hobbs This has been a long winter up here..colder than some previous and a lot of snow..in some past years by this time it was completely thawed..kids can go out more to play, can start doing things outside more, etc.

eclecticoh @solraven - books being formal , relaxed etc.

eclecticoh Hope you guys don't get tired of me .....lol

Jayme Hobbs @eclecticoh..u r so well mannered..who could get tired of u?

Darzy eclecticho...Now I don't think the lamp looks too small since you have raised the lamp on the books. Good idea. I really like the lamp and the shade color/texture is great. I think it works au' natural with the color/texture as is because it ties in nicely with the tan squares of the rug. Or... with your black covering idea looks good too. Whichever you and "mom" decide because it looks great both ways. Great job!

solraven @eclecticoh, I wouldn't say my book shelves looks formal, but it looks like they were organized intentionally. My shelves were a wreck, I pulled them all down and arranged them by color grouping, as if I was sorting laundry. :) To me, it looks neater and since I'm a visual, it's easier to find a book.

Jayme Hobbs There is an art to arranging things on shelves...there should be some experts in this area for sure!

bevballew I saw this pic on houzz so similar to your color combo and the red bowl just pulled everything together. I really do think that will unify everything. If it does not look good sorry to say you could return it or it might look good on the dining room table! This is a fun site! Thanks for making it fun. You are a good son!

oneofeleven @eclecticoh, we don't mean to confuse you, we're just offering you two different ideas, but we both agree on the baskets. Why don't you have some fun and play around with your shelves, try it my way and try it solraven's way. The one you like the best is the one for you. If you try the baskets and don't like them take them right back. One thing I have learned is that although decorating is fun it's also a lot of work. You know what they say "Keep calm and carry on".

eclecticoh Thanks to all. You guys are a great big help. I don't think if I had hired a designer they could have bring so much ideas and design to the table lol. (Because we see things in our point of view - its great when you can put two together). Love you all.

eclecticoh Jayme what do you think about the extending the curtains?
Solraven ask earlier.
Might change the vase with branches idea

Jayme Hobbs @eclecticoh...U could try it and see how it looks and if u like it...I would like to see how it looks.

eclecticoh OK.

eclecticoh Found this art on overstock its $69.99.What do you think ?

nononanna It's not my thng, but as my mother says, that's why there is chocolate and vanilla - art work is so subjective. If you like it, it's good. Which wall?

Jayme Hobbs I think it could work..It has colors from the room without being obnoxious or overly loud/bright.

bevballew If it were one big pic it could work. It could possibly work on a small wall in a hallway if you all like it very much. Otherwise I would try for a full picture.

eclecticoh @nononanna- the wall opposite to the TV wall.

You guys can help me find some art. Budget for that is $70.00

Jayme Hobbs How big is it? You need a big pic on that wall

eclecticoh Its: 35.5 inches high x 66 inches wide. Yes I do. A great eye catching one.

Jayme Hobbs Sounds good!!

eclecticoh I thinks its different.

Valvorie Dunn Art is subjective. For me it is very depressing. It also is grey & I wasn't thinking you had any grey in the room.

Valvorie Dunn Now I see the grey in the rug but it looks like a warm grey compared to the cold blue grey in the art.

Jayme Hobbs I like there is light and dark in pic..should tie in well...what do others think? Price is good/and u like it...

bevballew Dark and depressing. Sorry. I like the poppy pic if framed. If not there then in dining area. You need Something very contemporary but exudes a happy feeling. Way too small in that place. It is meant for a small wall. Something with little gray and some red.

solraven I like the colors in the calla lilies, but I agree with others about the painting having an overall, depressed feeling, which has to do with the background color. I'm also not crazy about polyptych art work. They feel choppy, to me. I feel that artwork can bring a certain energy into a space. So, I would see what your mom thinks. If she looks at the painting and it puts her in a serene or happy place, then it's a good fit. If she feels a bit depressed, the it's definitely not the right print for her.

eclecticoh Its not that we like the art - its just that it has all the colors in the room and its big.'m searching for something big and reasonable.I'm depressed we can't find one.
It not only our feelings that count , I would like the art to draw people attention and give a good feeling.

nononanna Take your time! The room looks great, and looking for something nice can be a pleasurable experience for everyone that could take months! Who said, "Never have anything in your home that you don't believe to be beautiful or know to be useful."? Whoever it was (I think it was William Morris), it's true - don't buy it if you don't love it!

eclecticoh True word.

solraven @eclecticoh, I'm in the same boat as you, as far as trying to find art work. Right now I don't have any art in our living room or dining room. I started thinking about the feeling and energy, that I want our new home to have. I looked at an abstract canvas painting that I had, and decided not to hang it. I've never truly loved it, and something about it feels "angry". Then I remembered watching the video "The Secret" and how an artist wanted to bring something into his life, so he painted the images and placed them around his home. The woman that told him, that he should do that, was a feng shui specialist.

That made me think of the energy, that I wanted to attract, into our home. I can recall some really bad arguments I've had with my fiancé, while living in our last home, as well as two break-ups, with ex's, that ended with unusually loud arguing, and a slammed front door, while standing in front of that canvas artwork. I was absolutely shocked, when that happened twice, within a year.

Then I thought about a time when I had a print of Picasso's "Blue Nude", hanging in my bedroom. During that same time, I was single, and for the life of me, couldn't find anyone that I was interested in dating. Coincidentally, my gf had the exact same print hanging in her place, and... was going through the same thing. Now I look back and can't help but wonder if it had to do w/ the energy that I brought into my home, with such artwork.

So that leaves me where I am now, which is looking for artwork that represents, the energy, that I want to bring into this home. My gf has this print on her wall, from Ikea. I think it's absolutely gorgeous, but... I also feel like there is something lonely and isolating about it. So, as beautiful as I think it is, I won't bring it into our home. Coincidentally, I have noticed that she went from really happy, to feeling isolated and alone. I can't help but wonder if the print has anything to do with that.

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/images/products/premiar-picture__0123137_PE271597_S4.JPG

oneofeleven Interesting thoughts solraven, you might have something there.

solraven @oneofeleven, have you noticed anything like that w/ any of your homes' artwork? I would be curious to hear if anyone else had a similar experience.

oneofeleven Here are some pieces of art I found on Overstock.com. The nice thing about this site are the reviews of the art and the fact that you can return it. Hope you get some ideas here.

http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Michael-Tompsett-Urban-Watercolor-World-Map-Canvas-Art/7569570/product.html
http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Banksy-Balloon-TV-Girl-Gallery-Wrapped-Canvas/7676258/product.html
http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Beverly-Brown-Path-Monets-Garden-in-Giverny-Canvas-Art/7029944/product.html
http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Art-Wall-Elena-Ray-Yin-Yang-Unwrapped-Canvas/7785002/product.html
http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Herbet-Hofer-South-Beach-View-Canvas-Art/4611793/product.html
http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Art-Wall-Rick-Kersten-Streets-of-Mexico-Unwrapped-Canvas/7818760/product.html

oneofeleven @solraven, I haven't noticed this personally but I live in the country, in a house with lots of windows and very little wall space, so I don't have much on the walls (I have several mirrors though). I know that personally I am not drawn to images that are dark or controversial and I'm drawn to things that make me smile.

Valvorie Dunn I'm older & that makes a difference in my personal tastes. I have flowers & botanicals so they are always happy. Autumn scenes make me happy & you can find those in any style. Looking at the print you posted I can see where you could get a loney & isolating feeling but I could also just imagine what was on the other side of that bridge & what awaited when the fog rose. Maybe it's more of what's in your heart at the time than the actual art. The egg or the chicken? Which one comes first?

Valvorie Dunn Eclecticoh, go to allposters.com. The other suggestion would be Hobby Lobby if you have one. They run rotating 1/2 sales all the time. You can find your prints, then when frames go on sale buy your frames. Simply poster frames will work well in your home.

oneofeleven http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00185824/
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20150946 I own this one, it's a picture of a canal in
Amerstdam in springtime and there is a Red bicycle in the front of the picture, it's a huge poster.

solraven @Valvorie, it's interesting, because I get both of those feelings, as well, from the Ikea print. Sometimes I just think it's gorgeous, and other times, I still think it's pretty, but it feels depressing. I guess I have learned that I should keep things around me that make me happy, when I'm feeling sad, and happier, when I'm feeling happy. :)

As soon as my eye caught this print, on Overstock, I could feel my pupils dilate with joy. The style isn't quite me, and I'm not a fan of polyptych art pieces, but looking at it makes me happy. Ironically, it's called "Happiness Abstract" LOL....

http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Happiness-Abstract-Gallery-wrapped-Canvas-Art-Set/5147341/product.html

Debra-Debbie Gilliland-Walters Love lamp on books. Seems angle of first pictures with lamp made it look dumpier (mean shorter). Maybe it was angle of picture. I love the art posted by oneofeleven. I love "Monet's Garden" and "Streets of Mexico".

eclecticoh Thank you all for the suggestions and examples.
@solraven-nice example.
@"Oneofeleven- I like the Art Wall Rick Kersten 'Streets of Mexico' Unwrapped Canvas .
@Valvorie Dunn- I like the natural photography allposters.com has.

eclecticoh Jayme why you delete your suggestion ?
I like the desert one.

bevballew Check out Home Goods for pics too. I like money's garden. Since this is your mother living here I would think,she would like more floral or scenery. The abstract seems way too strong for me.

Jayme Hobbs Feelings of insecurity...LOL

eclecticoh Jayme...... :( y......your opinion and suggestion always counts. Your welcome to comment because your secure. Lol

eclecticoh @bevballew.....I was about to check out their art work when I went there but it was too crowded. Prob in the future again .

Jayme Hobbs @eclecticoh...Thanks ..nice to hear..I second guess things sometimes..worried there was too much bluish in that pic..but it also looks green!

eclecticoh Yea....that happen to me sometimes too.

solraven Sometimes too much bluish, is just what you need! :) When I was replying earlier today, I looked up at my living room wall that needs either a big print or big tv, and realized that I've been looking for colors already in the room in stead of something with a little contrast. Ironically, I realized that the color that I needed was... blue. :)

Valvorie Dunn Every room should have a little blue & a little Asian.

solraven Asian?!! LOL.... @Val, would you elaborate?

tstarz You have done amazing! Great job. Love following thismthread

eclecticoh Hello , how are you guys today ?
I am good , I got some eucalypsus (Red ,Green and Black)today and a solid black vase.
I like those white wash dinning chairs - I was thinking about olive green chairs also. Note I'm keeping the table.
I would like the dinning area to be modern.

Jayme Hobbs Have you considered metal chairs?

Jayme Hobbs Set of 4 chairs for $199 from overstock.com

Ironwood Builders I'm getting out my wallet!

bevballew Can you take the vase to a florist,and have them spruce,it up a bit? I like the chairs,but I am no designer. They give great suggestions!

Jayme Hobbs There are red ones too.

eclecticoh @Jayme.....Those was the first I like .....but thought it would be small.

@Ironwood Builders - no problem , you can contribute too . Lol

@bevballew....I was considering to keep it on the dinning table. So how .I got it at a flower shop.

Jayme Hobbs @eclecticoh...could be a consideration..they are listed under "dining room chairs"...Not sure what the dimensions are compared to those u chose..I can see if I can find out the actual dimensions.

Jayme Hobbs Lets see if this works
These stacking chairs come in a red color option and have a sturdy steel construction. The polished finish on this set of four chairs is both mar and scratch resistant.

■Pack of four (4) chairs
■Finish: Polished red
■Materials: Steel
■Stackable
■Seat height: 17.5 inches
■Dimensions: 31 inches high x 20 inches wide x 19 inches deep

Fully assembled

bevballew It was a bit hard to see your eucalyptus as the pic was dark. I just visualized an arrangement a bit lower and not so compact.

Valvorie Dunn I guess I'm trying to be politically correct. Something oriental.

bevballew I think Asian is okay! Maybe I am wrong. Anyway, I saw a cool pic that might have a better look. It is not the right colors but I think a nice look for your mom. If you can find the thread need help with contemporary dining room and then it says something about wood, take a look. You have to scroll quite a way down but I thought of you immediately. Just trying to help!

eclecticoh @Jayme- Thank you , those dimensions is close to the current dinning chairs so think it will work. Can you give me the link. Because the one I was reading earlier the description is different. It stated :This sturdy, steel, kids stacking chair is perfect for families with multiple children. Just the right size for kids and lightweight enough to be stacked, they can be put away when not
in use. Vibrant greenish yellow color adds fun to any playroom....more.

@bevballew- thanks , can you attach the picture.
For the eucalyptus , do you mean mixing it with other plant. Or just changing vase etc.

@Valvorie- I'll see how to how I can do that.

eclecticoh .

butlera Wow, I just breezed through this entire post. Could anyone really read the whole thing? :) Just wanted to say that I think y'all have done a great job advising eclecticoh and eclecticoh, you have really listened to the suggestions. Congratulations on designing a room that looks and functions so well!

Jayme Hobbs Having trouble attaching...go to overstock.com...flick on dining room furniture/then dining chair....type in "metal" in search box or try "Red Tabouret Stacking Chairs"..

eclecticoh OK found it. Great reviews.
@Jayme - you think red would be the best color to go with dinning table , or it would be too much red.

@butlera- Thanks

Jayme Hobbs Good question! I would maybe do the black ones if it were me..there were white ones too...

Darzy Jayme.. I really like the art suggestion of four day ago. The one you deleted! Very nice.

eclecticoh I prefer the black. I don't think solid white would fit.

Darzy I like this one from art.com
http://www.art.com/products/p10454288147-sa-i1425853/eric-balint-cantata.htm?sorig=cat&sorigid=1822&dimvals=1822&ui=56fe0e9ac802440a80729eb7e3e86a85

eclecticoh @Darzy- I like it too , but not the price . Wish it was cheaper.

Jayme Hobbs @Darzy..was it the abstract painting? I did put it back on...I had a weak moment and thought maybe the tones were not quite right/too much blue..but I think it's more greenish than blue...Thanks! I like your choice too.

solraven Jayme, I love those chairs! I even like them in red! :) Eclecticoh, what does your mom think of them?

Dana Veach I just have to say that (tuning into this discussion for the first time), I'm so impressed and delighted with the way everyone has worked together on this design dilemma...and eclecticoh, you and your brother are awesome sons...developing some serious design chops! Good work, all!

vacox Dana, this is a great one. Eclectioh, you are doing such a great job, and I agree with Dana, it is so wonderful that at your age you are learning this stuff. I am 50 and am just now starting to learn some of it. Fun. Dana, if you like this one, you'd love http://www.houzz.com/discussions/293751. That one has over 1400 comments--a compete redesign of Rhonda's small lower level.

Dana Veach Thanks, vacox...I'll check it out!

Jayme Hobbs @solraven..I like those chair too..tempted to order some myself!! I love all the colors too..the reviews on them were good also!! A good value also!!

solraven @Jayme, i was thinkng the same thing! We only have four chairs for a six top dining table and plan on replacing them. Right now, when we need 6 chairs, we bring the two office chairs into the dining room.

Jayme Hobbs @solraven...Our are getting pretty beat up...these would be fun and they would totally not "go with" our table...it's an antique oak pedestal...LOL

eclecticoh Thanks Dana and vacox.
@Solraven- my mom like the silver one. But she said the black will work. She ask Which one you guys think would look best ?
@Jayme- I'm so happy for your suggestion. Had like them but didn't know they would work.

eclecticoh .

Jayme Hobbs @eclecticoh..please don't hate me if they don't work...they do look very cool...Pretty soon your place is gonna be "The Place"...on Houzz!! LOVE the silver too!! Your floors r so light is why I thought the black would "bounce" out!!

eclecticoh @Jayme- why would I ? .........really-that would be nice. Lol

Darzy BTW...the art that was too expensive was for a big one. A 34" x 24" is $79.00 at art.com. But, in reality, if you go to Home Goods, TJ MAX, Ross' there are some great size "canvas" art really inexpensive. Ross' frequently has a big canvas of a zebra's head (or abstract) for under $100. The zebra sounds bad but it actually looks really cool : )

eclecticoh Hmmm :( ......I think I have to find another chair.
The seat width is 14 inches and the current chair width is 18.
I'm afraid that it well be too small especially when their is guest.

Jayme Hobbs Odd...the ones I looked at said 20 inches wide, 19 inches deep.

Jayme Hobbs ■Pack of four (4) chairs
■Finish: Polished red
■Materials: Steel
■Stackable
■Seat height: 17.5 inches
■Dimensions: 31 inches high x 20 inches wide x 19 inches deep

Fully assembled




Dimensions:19.0x20.0x31.0Materials:MetalModel No:3522





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Contemporary


Material

Metal, Steel


Upholstery

No Upholstery


Chair Type

Other


Set Size

Set of 4


Assembly

Assembled


Chair Back Height

Standard


Back Rest

Yes


Chair Seat Material

Other, Specialty


Exact Color

Red


Furniture Frame Material

Metal, Other


Furniture Pattern

Solid


Seat Style

Solid




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■Pack of four (4) chairs
■Finish: Polished red
■Materials: Steel
■Stackable
■Seat height: 17.5 inches
■Dimensions: 31 inches high x 20 inches wide x 19 inches deep

Fully assembled




Dimensions:19.0x20.0x31.0Materials:MetalModel No:3522





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Style

Contemporary


Material

Metal, Steel


Upholstery

No Upholstery


Chair Type

Other


Set Size

Set of 4


Assembly

Assembled


Chair Back Height

Standard


Back Rest

Yes


Chair Seat Material

Other, Specialty


Exact Color

Red


Furniture Frame Material

Metal, Other


Furniture Pattern

Solid


Seat Style

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■Pack of four (4) chairs
■Finish: Polished red
■Materials: Steel
■Stackable
■Seat height: 17.5 inches
■Dimensions: 31 inches high x 20 inches wide x 19 inches deep

Fully assembled




Dimensions:19.0x20.0x31.0Materials:MetalModel No:3522





Features
EnglishEspañolFrançaisPortuguêsDeutsch简体中文日本語عربي

Style

Contemporary


Material

Metal, Steel


Upholstery

No Upholstery


Chair Type

Other


Set Size

Set of 4


Assembly

Assembled


Chair Back Height

Standard


Back Rest

Yes


Chair Seat Material

Other, Specialty


Exact Color

Red


Furniture Frame Material

Metal, Other


Furniture Pattern

Solid


Seat Style

Solid




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■Finish: Polished red
■Materials: Steel
■Stackable
■Seat height: 17.5 inches
■Dimensions: 31 inches high x 20 inches wide x 19 inches deep

Jayme Hobbs Sorry that repeated...

eclecticoh That's the dimension for the chair not for the seat. Was chatting with one of their sales rep. And they're confuse also. The black ones seat dimension is 15inches X 15inches.

mytime001 Wow, a regional airline seat is 17 inches. But you have lots of room to spread!

Jayme Hobbs Something seems odd..if the chair is 20 " wide, how can the seat be 15" wide...Weird.

eclecticoh @mytime001 - thank you for using airline/airplane as an example. That's one of my favourite. Love it .
@Jayme - yes it is . I guess the shoulder is 20 inch wide. Remember it has curves and a arm.

Jayme Hobbs Hmmm. I am somewhat baffled, many of the chairs that I looked at for comparison were listed as being from 17 inches wide to 22"...on Overstock..so IDK what to go by, I guess. 15 inches seems too small..

Jayme Hobbs Comments (0)

@eclecticoh
The following article describes how wide a seat should be ...if u build one, but I would think the concept for size of seat would apply.






Thinking about designing a chair but struggling with determining the dimensions and angles that will guarantee maximum comfort? Then let us introduce you to the guidelines established by the furniture industries. Keep in mind that they apply to an average-size 5' 10" adult sitting in an upright position. You may need to adjust the dimensions and angles slightly depending on the intended user's size and shape.

Also, to help with your visual understanding of chair design, we letter-keyed the guidelines for the seat, back, and armrest dimensions and angles to the drawings below. Now, try them out for a chair that looks right and feels great.







First, the seat

A) For the occupant's feet to rest flat on the floor with a knee angle of 90–100°, locate the seat 16–18" above the floor. If the chair will have a cushion, account for its compressed thickness in the seat height by subtracting half the cushion's thickness.

B) To allow clearance between the seat's front edge and the occupant's legs, make the seat 15–18" deep.

C) Aim for a seat width of 16–20". Depending on the chair's style and your preference, you can taper the seat 2–3" from front to back (1–1-1/2" per side). A wider front provides more leg room while a narrower back allows a little more elbow room.

D) For added comfort, particularly when the chair will not have a cushion, slope the seat 5–8° from front to back. This also helps keep the occupant from sliding forward. For an office or desk chair, though, it's best to forget the slope as a flat seat facilitates leaning forward.







Now, the back

E) To give lower-back support without interfering with the shoulders, plan for a back height of 12–16" above the seat for a casual chair and 20" (typical) for a formal chair.

F) Slant the back up to 5° for a formal chair and up to 15° for a casual chair. Keep in mind, though, that as the back angle increases, you need to up the seat angle (to maintain the seat-to-back angle between 90° and 100°) to prevent forward sliding and lower the seat height to keep the front edge of the seat from contacting the back of the legs.

G) To give "rear" clearance for hind parts, leave 3" of open space between the top of the seat and bottom of the lower backrest, or curve out the lower 4–8" of the backrest.







Finally, the armrests

H) For the armrests to support the forearms without elevating the shoulders, position them 7–9" above the seat. Be sure to check the table-apron height when determining the armrest height so the arms will slide under the apron.

I, J, K) Make armrests a minimum of 8" long, 2" wide, and spaced approximately 19" apart.





















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eclecticoh My mom like these chair

Jayme Hobbs Those look fine too.

bevballew Your mom and I have the same taste. I like those much better. Not as trendy and contemporary.

eclecticoh OK then I might get it.

Jayme Hobbs The black will go well!! Dang, wish the metal could have worked for some texture...but...the black will add some character...And stand out well against the light flooring.

eclecticoh Yes I was hoping too.......wish they were bigger.

Jayme Hobbs Disappointed in the way they give the dimensions...very deceiving.

solraven @Jayme, now I can't stop thinking about those red chairs! My dining table is very similar to the one in the picture, and those chairs would really look great in my dining room. I wasn't even looking for chairs yet! LOL...

Several times I have read, or thought about things for spaces on Houzz, and it helped solve one of my own dilemmas that I put on the back burner. :)

eclecticoh, have you made a final decision, or are you mulling it over a bit more?

eclecticoh i havent made one......went to walmart and didnt see the chairs . so i would have to buy it online. But still looking.

Jayme Hobbs @solraven...I hope those chairs don't end up being too small!! The dimensions are deceiving, I do believe! eclecticoh was mentioning that the seats are 15 inches..

eclecticoh yes , they are. not even their representatives understand whats going on. I told them i hate to do returns so I am not getting it.

Jayme Hobbs I hate returns too...a big pain...espec. if it's FOUR BIG CHAIRS!! LOL

solraven These are my current dining room chairs. I ordered them 5 yrs ago via Walmart.com without seeing them. My counter height kitchen table, and my ladder bookshelves also came from Walmart.com, sight unseen and most recently, my living room rug is from Walmart.com. I've had great success with buying from them online. Just check the reviews and item description, then listen to your gut. For me, the reward of such great bargains, was worth the risk.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Contemporary-Caf-eacute-Chair-Set-of-2-Java/6022494

Jayme Hobbs @Solraven..I like your chairs! Glad u have had such good luck!

solraven Thanks Jayme! My main thing is that I prefer back heights that are close to the table height, which is harder to find without going ultra modern. Ever since you posted those red chairs, my mind has been working over time on finishing that space. Especially since it's the first thing you see when you walk in. I really should post pics on Houzz and see what other ideas the community comes up with. :)

Jayme Hobbs @solraven..I really like those metal chairs too and I think something is odd with the way the dimensions are listed and what the representatives at Overstock are saying about the seat size...seems odd to be off five inches. I could see one or two.

solraven If the arm is an inch wide, plus the seat apron angles out, I could see it being a 16" seat, but it's really hard to say without seeing them.

eclecticoh Look at this.

Jayme Hobbs @eclecticoh..NICE!!

solraven I can't believe how far you've come. It looks fantastic!

eclecticoh Guess !
what ?
I start sanding down the dinning table.

Thank you guys. I always remember you guys , even more when I'm in the space.

Jayme Hobbs AWESOME!!!

solraven That's fantastic! ececticoh, you inspire me to complete my home decor. :)

eclecticoh Thanks. Actually they didn't believe I could sand it , and when they saw part of it sand - they said Continue. Have plenty more to do thou.

solraven LOL... that's funny. Did they think it was a veneer?

eclecticoh @Solraven-No they didn't. But idk why they didnt want me to.
Does this look better on the coffee table than the plant ?

Jayme Hobbs I like it

solraven Yes, it does. But I must admit, I still feel a disconnect. I'm not sure what it is though. One thing that instantly put a smile on my face is seeing the book on the second shelf. It looks like you were reading, and placed it down, just where it should be. :)

I'm not sure what's off about the bowl. Maybe try a few books under it, or use Granny Smith apples in place of the balls. Hey, that could be your touch of green! :)

bevballew Better than the plant. Maybe it needs a few books added. Maybe a grouping of three things, with the bowl, the books and a taller 4 to 6 inch in diameter candle already in a container. Maybe like you said needs a color. Love your commitment to completing the project.

solraven @bev, I like your group of three idea with the books and low candle. I think the bowl looks lonely; it needs some friends. LOL..

solraven @Jayme, I kept meaning to tell you this, but forgot until this pic. I figured you were wondering how I knew eclecticoh was in S. FL. The tile floors and aluminum windows told me he was some place that was warm all year, and then he said my Ikea, was also, his Ikea. :) Before I moved here, I would have thought tile floors and aluminium windows were weird. After living here a few years, I completely understand. LOL...

Curb Appeal Renovations Wow, you have gotten some great advice here! I can't wait to see pictures of the finished room!

bevballew Thank you solraven. I had my rooms completed by a professional designer and that is what she has done on two coffee tables. I love candles for the ambience when I have company! From my observation often things should be in threes with three different heights.

bevballew Yes lonely solraven:( now it may have some buddies!! One that gives light and warmth and bring coziness! Lol!

Jayme Hobbs In agreement something more could be addes to table...I do like the bowl and contents & think it looks dim in pic due to lighting.

solraven Yeah, I sometimes think I'm not seeing the room at it's fullest potential because of lack of illumination,which is surprising based on it's latitude location. That must be a north facing window because the S. FL sun is ridiculously bright, even when it's a little cloudy.

eclecticoh @Solraven - its facing west. But the picture is darker than it actually is.
Thanks.
I do agree that its missing something -
I'll try the suggestions. :)

Pictures below.
*Coffee table suggestion.
+ thats what is around the dinning table currently. Does that give us any idea ?

eclecticoh .

eclecticoh I think its the camera. Because sometimes the sun is even sitting down in the room.

eclecticoh What's your thoughts ?

solraven Look at all of that sunshine!! I was wondering where it has been all day. I have clouds and rain!

I love the warm light in the top left pic. If we could capture that feeling. I think the grouping is an improvement. The items look less lonely. It's off, but moving in the right direction. I'd play around w/ it some more. I'd start by removing the red tray. :)

eclecticoh @Solraven- it was raining earlier.
OK ....I will

bevballew Candle next to books, not on books. One large candle. You know how they sell candles already in a glass container. That is the kind of candle, one large one just in the container. Probably a cream colored one. Target has nice ones. home goods probably does too. Candle next to books. Two books one on top of the other, alone. You just have to play with it moving it around. No tray under candle as it will be in glass. Maybe even a hurricane glass not too tall with a candle in it, cream colored candle. You need the candle about 8 inches tall, maybe a bulkier one. I would try some green applies in bowl just to see how the color works.

solraven What Bev said. LOL... :)

solraven BTW, it's pouring right now! You can have your rain back! LOL...

eclecticoh @bevballew - lol....sorry .Great suggestion.
@Solraven- you can send back the rain. My favourite weather.

solraven It's absolutely pouring, yet through the rain, I can see a gorgeous sunset. LOL...

eclecticoh OK.
@solraven- when it rains it gives me a good feeling within. I love the sound too lol
Probably because rain is apart of my name.

solraven I do love the sound of downpours, but by the time it down-poured, I had a day of gloomy, so I was over it. However, my dry grass got watered... a lot! And... the pool filled up about 2 inches. So that was super great!

Jayme Hobbs I like the smell after a rain...and I like to plant shrubs and plants when it's raining outside, have done so many times.

Jayme Hobbs @eclecticoh....is rain in your first name?

bevballew What did I say that was so funny? I hate explaining what I am trying to say on here and the iPad adds words it thinks it should! Maybe I did not explain myself well?

Jayme Hobbs @bevballew...u did a great job explaining! Thx for helping out!

bevballew Thank you Jayme:)

eclecticoh @Jayme- yes it is. Just two letters missing one before and one after rain.
@bevballew- no worries , you did explain well.
When you said "Candle next to books, not on books." Is what made me smile . But was funny that I misunderstood and didnt put it the way I was suppose to based on your previous explaination.

solraven @bev, I was laughing because you typed what I was thinking, so I just said, "What Bev said," and giggled because you typed what I was thinking. I thought it was funny that we were thinking the same thing. :)

bevballew Glad for a good laugh! Great minds work together solraven! You both have me smiling and giggling! Thought it cute eclecticoh you put the candle on the book... No offense but it was more of the decorator touch of a guy!!

solraven It's just part of eclecticoh's charm and why we all want to adopt him. :)

oneofeleven I like your table with just the bowl of balls on it. It's nice and simple and shows off the table.

eclecticoh @bevballew - thank you
@Solraven- really , thanks for being nice.
@oneofeleven- ok thank you i'll try to meet in the middle.
@Jayme- what's going on ? Thank you for liking the comments. Lol

Jayme Hobbs @eclecticoh...Not much here..cleaning things up...How's it going with u?

eclecticoh OK.....I'm here looking through airliners.net etc and also looking for dinning chairs.

Jayme Hobbs Cool..what is airliners.net?

eclecticoh http://www.airliners.net
Aviation site , that has forums , discussions , news, and photos dealing with aviation etc.

Jayme Hobbs But they don't sell dining room chairs???

eclecticoh Lol...oh I wasn't looking for dinning chairs there. Sorry I word my sentence wrong. I meant to say I'm on airliners.net and also I am Googling dinning chairs.

Jayme Hobbs LOL...I know...I was joking around!!

eclecticoh OK , I think I'm going ahead and get these chairs.
Didn't find any other within my budget.

eclecticoh What's going on everyone ?
I am here again !

UPDATE : DINNING AREA
New dinning chairs.
What do you think ?

Genevieve You could also add a task light in a corner those usually come handy :) The chairs are lovely but according to the style that is Mission and your table that is Colonial they really don't belong with it ,either get a new table or get chairs that are Colonial.

Look at the legs of your table and try to find somthing like these
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=colonial+chairs&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=B9D705BEF7025DE3EAB737486BECB0D751A2481C&selectedIndex=75

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=task+light+&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=3ED2DAD66DF50FF044A7BF91293F3449CFA96D6D&selectedIndex=23

eclecticoh @.Genevieve- thanks , I don't think I would change the chairs - maybe the table. I love the way they look.
I like the task light - was considering getting one but the price......

Genevieve And last but not least .... a coffee table book
http://www.styleathome.com/how-to/diy-decor/top-10-coffee-table-books/a/735

Genevieve I like the chairs so yes go for the new table and for the task light I'm sure that you will find one on sale somewhere keep looking this is what decorating is all about :)

This one at Target I would change the shade on it .
http://www.target.com/OpenZoomLayer?template=scene7-image&image=Target/14217267_is&omniZoomPartNumber=14217267&swCellSpacing=10,10&swHighlightThickness=1&swBorderThickness=0&itemTitle=Threshold%26trade%3B+Arc+Floor+Lamp+-+Silver&omniImageCount=2

http://www.target.com/c/floor-lamps-lighting-home-decor/-/N-56d7u#navigation=true&Nao=60&viewType=large&sortBy=bestselling&isleaf=true&navigationPath=56d7u&parentCategoryId=9976378&facetedValue=/-/N-56d7u&RatingFacet=0&productsCount=226&categoryId=282501

vacox I love the look of the table and chairs--I'm not a designer so I didn't notice the legs were different styles. I like the contrast between the black chairs and the light table. I also like the tall vase & flowers you put on the table. Genevieve, what if he painted the legs and table skirt black? Or went thrift shopping and got 4 straight legs that match (would be lucky) or that he painted black? Thinking about money....

eclecticoh Thanks for the suggestion . But prob in the future I'll change the table- If anything right now is improving it . I just think its a mix of modern and colonial together. The lamp is more promising.

eclecticoh @Vacox- thank you.

Jayme Hobbs I didn't realize the table was big enough to fit 2 chairs on each side!! Chairs look fine~!! Are you going to add any chairs at head of table? Or u could try one chair on each side, and one on each end.

eclecticoh Can I add these.

bevballew Looks very nice. Flower arrangement looks good there!

Jayme Hobbs Something like these types at the head of table would mix it up...

oneofeleven maybe add some placemats or a table runner with your colours of red and black

Jayme Hobbs I posted some chairs 2 hrs ago..not showing up

Jayme Hobbs The chairs I posted were $109 for pair of 2 from Overstock...they add contemporary to the mix.

eclecticoh Thanks to all.
@Jayme- nice. In what color.
Thats the only thing need to add to the dinning table. Anymore suggestion.

Jayme Hobbs I like the orange ones..but u don't have any orange in the room, do u? The rug has a greenish? And yellowish?

eclecticoh @Jayme- I have greenish but no orange

Jayme Hobbs Colored chairs would look good there....the ones I posted r the ones on sale..HMMM

eclecticoh I like the table and chairs together. I love the colonial with the contemporary chairs......I know we do because we don't stop looking at it . The chairs really looks better like this around the table.

More pictures below.
Note : The light is not that bright.
PLEASE I AM ASKING YOU TO EXCUSE THE PICTURES THAT ARE HANGED. I HAVEN'T MADE ANY IMPROVEMENT THERE AS YET.

eclecticoh ......

Jayme Hobbs Much better!! I like it this way better!!

oneofeleven http://www.favoritepaintcolorsblog.com/search/label/dining%20room
how about this look?

eclecticoh Do you think , painting the legs black would make it look better ?
@oneofeleven - I like that site....great ideas.

oneofeleven glad you like, I do too. You can spend a lot of time there, too much time!

solraven I like just the four chairs around the table, but I do love the idea of introducing orange. I've always loved the way reds and oranges look together. The pillows on my sofas are dark red and burnt orange. Hmmm... I bet orange would look great against your sofas, in the form of a throw pillow or throw.

The office chairs still give me a chuckle, because we're doing the same thing. When I see the right chairs, I'll pick them up, but for now, I don't mind using the office chairs, since they are the most comfortable chairs in the house. I'll have to post a pic. It's so funny that we have the same color scheme right now. :)

BTW, did you notice a traditional table w/ very similar chairs on the website? :) It was under the color American Eagle. Merlot Red had a traditional table paired with mid century modern chairs, so it's safe to say your mission chairs are in good company. :)

eclecticoh @Solraven- thanks
Do you think I could use orange throw and my current throw pillows together?
I'm trying to find somewhere to keep the office chairs when not in use.
The closet behind the dinning table is where the computer , house phone , TV etc is.
I'm really thinking about painting the dinning table legs black.

Jayme Hobbs You could stain your top a little darker and paint the legs black? Or clear coat your top if u like it light.

eclecticoh @Jayme- yes I would use the clear coat because I would want it to have the same light natural wood color as the lamp base

solraven Oh, I think an orange throw w/ the brown pillows would look great. The brown calms down the bright colors, and using orange w/ the red sofa, gives the two colors' brightness, dimension.

As for the office chairs, I would only keep them if I had someplace to put them, otherwise, I would just go w/ 4 chairs. Is it comfortable for 6 people to be at the table? People might end up sitting around the sofa, just to have elbow room. I would ask your parents to just use the dining chairs, for a while, and see if they even need to keep the office chairs. If there was a separate office, then I'd say keep them and pull them out when you absolutely need them, otherwise, the excess seating will make the room feel closed in and cluttered. With just four chairs at the dining table, it feels generous for those sitting around it.

As for the table legs, I like the idea of just dipping the first 8", or so, of each leg, in black paint. It'll tie in the colors, but still keep the table primarily, natural wood. If you decide that you don't like the dipped look, then just continue on, and finish the legs.

eclecticoh What type of rug/mat would look good at the door/entry way ?

solraven That's a good question. It does look like it needs something, but an area rug, big enough for the dining table would spill into the walkway space. Hmmm... maybe a runner from the entryway into the room. It'll define the eating area, and add bit of warmth to that area. What do you think?

How long is the walk way from the entrance to the end of the kitchen wall?

eclecticoh The kitchen wall is about 8ft in length.
I was wondering if an area rug at the dinning area would make the place smaller and heavy, also it would probably have to be a plain rug since the living room area rug is multi.

Jayme Hobbs One thing I don't like about area rugs under tables is cleaning issues. We are messy at our house though. If I were to put one under your dining table, I would go a solid, light shade (maybe light tan/off white, sisal)-because idk if dark would make room look chopped up-, and it would need to be large enough to extend beyond table far enough for chairs to sit on it and not get stuck on it when u push and pull chairs to table...which could spill over into walkway, maybe? Or a large oval one, maybe wouldn't do that.

solraven Right now area around the dining table looks a little cold, so I don't think it will make it feel too heavy, as long as it's a soft neutral color, and flat or tight weave, like Jayme mentioned. Keeping the area clean depends on the occupants. Since it's just your parents living in the space, and their children are adults, I doubt that will be a problem. If they often had children over, then a rug, under the dining table, may not last.

oneofeleven how about an indoor/outdoor rug with a matching mat for in front of the door?

Jayme Hobbs Ha ha ...at my house, one of the adults is one of the worst perpetrators!! (Messy)...but eclecticoh's parent's home looks very neat and clean!! It does look bare around the table..so having something on the floor would likely warm it up some!!

travisinteriors You have a lot of red. In the future do not buy matching pieces. If you can't sell it and buy new, like a sectional with a chaise on one end, I don't know what to do. Drapes are pretty but too formal for red leather. Picture over sofa too high hang 4" from top of sofa. But, replace with bigger picture, no red. If you get sec. Go round coffee table.

travisinteriors If budget doesn't allow buying new. Remove striped sofa move larger sofa to that spot. Move end table to corner by window. And floor lamp to other end of window. Lower picture. Get round coffee table. Thrift store are a good place to look for furn. Have them pick up furn you want out. Use that table with pictures over it next to sofa as end table with a tall lamp on it. Remove those pictures. Not sure what that was use for. Is there room for a media with a TV?

bevballew You missed a lot of changes Travis. Striped sofa gone. Media center purchased which is across from the red couch. Coffee table new. He is deciding what to do in eating area.

travisinteriors If going for new end tables, dining and coffee table. Go dark. It never gies out of style. Go round glass & wood for coffee table. That back wall perfect for flat screen big 50" will take up wall. Low media center is way to go check target. New rt will help to go big pieces, small. If you have carpet do. Not put down area rug. No rug over rug ever.

travisinteriors I just read comments. See you have thing under control. Love what you did. Looks great. What a good son you are.

bevballew Travis...not sure if you have followed the tons of posts but it seemed you had looked at the very top pic so I thought to bringing you up to snuff of some of the main facts that have transpired. I hope I did not sound abrasive as that was not what I was saying...just wanted you to cut to the chase because you always have great input and ideas and I can't wait to hear them!!!

Jayme Hobbs We've been in a holding pattern for awhile..but several of us continue to lurk the peripheries!! LOL

solraven @Jayme, LMAO!! Messy children can be taught, but a messy adult??? Forget the rug! LOL... You know what's funny? When I read what you said about rugs under the dining table, it made me think years back, when I had another couple over for dinner. After they had left, I was cleaning up and I noticed that my girlfriend's new beau had nearly a box of bread crumbs all over the table where he sat, his chair, and enough on the floor to keep Hansel and Gretel, circling for days! LOL...

Fortunately, my beau appreciates things that look neat, uncluttered and organized. I posted a brief bit about him on the "Pantry" thread.

solraven @eclecticoh, how does your table look turned in the other direction? The rule of thumb for dining area rugs is for the rug to extend 2' out on all sides, so when you pull your chair in and out, you'll always stay on the rug. However, rules are meant to be broken. :) I'm going to guess that the table is 5' x 3'. If you found a rug that's 8' x 5', it may work well by defining the area and give warmth, without overwhelming the space or making the floor look heavy. Target had a few really nice rugs in the store. You may want to check them out.

Jayme Hobbs Wondering if an indoor/outdoor natural woven type rug would do it? Many stores carry those at reasonable prices.

Jayme Hobbs I just saw on another thread that Homedecorators has a sale ..good deals on these types of rugs, apparently.

Jayme Hobbs How about one such as this? (Overstock)

Jayme Hobbs http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Hand-knotted-Gazell-Sisal-Rug-8-Square/4747528/product.html

eclecticoh @Jayme- yes I do think the light shade will work.
Thanks for the reference. I'll check the prices.
@Solraven- great guess. I measured 4.8' x 3' .
Yes the rug would probably fit better if the table is position vertically.
@Bevballew- thanks for updating travisinteriors.
@Oneofeleven- good suggestion , that might work too.
@Travisinteriors- thanks for your comment , great suggestions - as you see some of your suggestion has taken place.

oneofeleven 1You're such a polite person, I appreciate your acknowledgments.

eclecticoh Thanks oneofeleven

bevballew Yes it is so kind you acknowledge. Thank you!!

Jayme Hobbs We have a nice bunch on this thread...so refreshing!!

Jayme Hobbs No snark ever!! Snark is not needed, not helpful...not constructive...proud of our thread!!

eclecticoh Look at these. Would it go with the space?

eclecticoh http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/ETHAN-HOME-Modern-Chrome-Metal-Arch-Lamp/6174733/product.html?cid=202290&kid=9553000357392&track=pspla&ef_id=UVS6MQAAAQAQBWwg:20130419124751:s

oneofeleven I looked at your link and I think the lamp on the left is too large for your space, I think to really appreciate it you would need a room with highter ceilings. I like the one on the right, definitely.

eclecticoh @oneofeleven- I wasn't even noticing that , thank you for pointing that out.

Jayme Hobbs Agree with oneofeleven!!

eclecticoh So the target one will work.
I wonder if they have a option to get a darker shade , since I didn't achieve that in the table lamp.
http://m.target.com/p/threshold-arc-floor-lamp-silver/-/A-14217267?ref=tgt_adv_XSG10001&AFID=Google_PLA_df&LNM=%7C14217267&CPNG=Lighting&kpid=14217267&LID=PA&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=14217267

solraven The lamp will come w/ a shade, but you can always change out your shade.

eclecticoh So what do you think?
Is that lamp good

bevballew Where is the lamp going? Dining area? Maybe just a red or mixed color with red in it table runner? Or placemats?

solraven Where are you putting the lamp?

eclecticoh So far Most suggest it go in the other corner of the window .based on suggestions that include floor lamps

eclecticoh Did some changes .
Do you think we could bring in more orange into the room ?
I think thinking of painting the lamp orange.
What's your opinion ?

Jayme Hobbs Which corner were u thinking for the floor lamp? I do think orange accents could be added into your room.

eclecticoh In this corner

Jayme Hobbs Should work there- I think, but it looks like the kind u put near furniture to hang over.

Jayme Hobbs May still be fine...what do the others think?

Elinor Rowlands Paint the table legs black if you haven't already. It will bring the chairs and table together but also the whole room with your black accents throughout the room

Elinor Rowlands What did you do with the other sofa (there are over 250 comments here so can't read them all)

eclecticoh The stripe sofa bed is in another room. My mom is not ready to throw it out.

Jayme Hobbs The lamp is nice..I just worry about light things getting lost on the light walls and against light floor as well..Maybe with a black shade? I think u mentioned changing the shade already.

eclecticoh Yes

Elinor Rowlands Perhaps not now if your budget is tight but what would pull the room together even more would be a dark wood or coloured (not white) buffet or console table or side board next to the sofa and behind the dining room table against the wall and I'd also go for a bigger art work above it. If you can't afford much buy a really big canvas and then just add some paint to it yourself (have a splash of red in there). On the console table put some ornaments in brighter colours like red, green and any other colours you already have accented in the room or a big vase of flowers and some photo frames.

oneofeleven try the lamp and if you don't like it you can always return it. Are you thinking of getting a lamp because you need more light or because you want to fill the space? I wouldn't personally paint the lamp orange but the lampshade might be good. Here is an idea I found on Pinterest
http://pinterest.com/pin/234750199299321975/ if you wanted colour in the shade you could use coloured paper.

Jayme Hobbs sorry eclecticoh..just scrolled back to look at lamp...I was thinking it was silver on the base...it's not...prob. would be fine.

solraven I like that lamp a lot, but am not feeling it for that corner. Jayme, you're right; it is silver. I think that corner needs something tall and straight, maybe something like this: http://www.target.com/p/square-floor-lamp-with-paper-shade-and-shelves-black-beige/-/A-10448543#prodSlot=large_1_9 I also like that this give you a little bit of side shelf, if you should need it, but they don't need to be used

Ironically, it also comes w/ a red shade and it's on sale. I don't think red is right, but it can give you an idea of what bright orange will look like.

I also like this one: http://www.target.com/p/floor-lamp-with-shelf-black-red-includes-cfl-bulbs/-/A-13788704#prodSlot=large_1_11

Unfortunately, this lamp isn't getting great reviews. http://www.target.com/p/threshold-floor-lamp-with-mica-shade/-/A-14217274 I have the original, of this lamp. They change the design, and judging by the reviews, the quality, but I do still love the style.

Jayme, here's eclecticoh's original. It's silver. :(
http://www.target.com/p/threshold-arc-floor-lamp-includes-cfl-bulb/-/A-14217268#prodSlot=large_2_14

eclecticoh @Elinor Rowland - sounds good , but I am worried I don't have enough space. The big canvas will look good.
@oneofeleven- great idea. I need both more light and also to fill the space.
@Solraven- I like the square floor lamp , but they don't have it in orange

Jayme Hobbs $88 at overstock.com Just a thought as don't want it to overwhelm the corner

solraven eclecticoh, I prefer the beige shade, which will look nice against the dark curtain panels. :D

solraven BTW, I like how you've arranged the shelves around the TV. It's very clean, simple and appealing to the eye. :) Great job!

Jayme Hobbs This one is $51.99 at Target. Has black legs.

eclecticoh Thanks .
Wow I have so much to choose from.
Confuse now .......lol

Jayme Hobbs IDK..the tripod one may spread out well in that space vs. the other one I posted..

solraven OT: Holy hurricane! What was that?!! LOL... Power's back on. I love FPL. They're the Verizon of electric power. :)

solraven I agree Jayme. The base should be something that takes up a bit of visual space.

eclecticoh @Jayme -finding it hard to find that tripod lamp.....do you have the link.
@Solraven - it was pouring with winds. I'm happy it caught me at the door.

Jayme Hobbs I just went to target and searched floor lamps...then black for color choices...

eclecticoh @Jayme- the lamp is currently unavailable.
also , i was reading the reviews and they mention that its much lighter in color than the picture.

Jayme Hobbs Dang, that's too bad...Maybe a similar one could be found..

solraven A quick search on CL yielded pretty decent results. The first one from C & B is super nice. It's chrome but it's not something a can of matte black spray paint can't fix. :)

The last three just happend to be the ones I showed you from Target. The last two, with the rust lamp, isn't the one that's available now, it's the nicer, better made lamp, that Target used to sell. It's the one that I currently own and have always liked it. I wish I could find that color lamp shade, with a more substantial base, but the price is right. :)

http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/fuo/3701710255.html

http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/fuo/3687936138.html

http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/fuo/3742658011.html

http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/fuo/3677586722.html

Jayme Hobbs I like that crate and barrel one!! But $20 for the black one is a great deal..that will go fast!

Elinor Rowlands RE: console table/side board. They make them in lots of different sizes. What you can do is measure your space and then go look for some either online or in shops with your required measurements. I live in the UK so don't know the types of shops you have over there but Ikea does some really reasonable sideboards. You have plenty of space, and you can always turn the table round so the two chairs have their backs to the sideboard. I also would remove the office chairs from the table. Only add them when you have guests and need them extra. This sideboard is more quirky and modern: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80100190/ whereas this is more classic but still modern: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00117024/ This would also look really modern and add a touch of elegance to your dining space: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/70138136/

Mike BROUSE fine art original artwork is always preferred over prints

eclecticoh UPDATE :
Added floor lamp.
The lamps really add more lighting and also I bought new GE's CFL bulb (energy star)
*was looking for wall art and orange throw in target but I did.find any that i think will go with the space.

Whats your opinion?

oneofeleven I think you're just about there. I like the new lamp, it works well in that space. Have you made any more changes in the dining room?

eclecticoh @oneofeleven- thanks , no i havent made any more changes in the dinning room.
I really want a wall art that i could move that one in the diining area.
also do you guys think i need to add some accents etc. to the lamp shelves.

vacox Things look great! Good job! Do your parents love it?

eclecticoh yes alot. :)

oneofeleven If you put something on those shelves I think you should take some stuff off of the television stand or it will look cluttered. Maybe you could throw a few baskets on the television stand to mix up the look and put some of the things you replaced with a basket on the lamp shelves.

solraven I love it! Now I realize why I liked that lamp for your room; it has squares, like the TV shelf, and balances out the roundness of the sofas. As far as putting stuff on the shelves. I like the look of the clean lines. The only thing it should have on it, is a cup of coffee, that you're currently drinking, and a book, that you're currently reading. :)

eclecticoh Thank you all.
Day picture.

Jayme Hobbs I love it!! Great job! Looking cool in there!!

solraven Wow... the room is really coming along. It's amazing how much that lamp brought the room together. That corner really needed something, and I kept thinking of a tall plant, but you had it right all along; it needed a lamp. You really are getting good at this! :)

eclecticoh Thanks very much ......and also for your suggestions , it help me choose the right lamp.

solraven What do you think about Granny Smiths for some added green?

travisinteriors Why so much around TV? Remove half of it. Looks clutter. Less is more.

Jayme Hobbs Another thing that may look cool...a huge colorful bowl filled with fruit...I have an enormous orange bowl that looks like it's sides are orange peels...it's textured to look like an orange. U can go pretty large in size.

travisinteriors All furn does not need to match. I would get rid of one of the sofas and replace with 2 chairs not too big. In a simple print. Check Ikea.

travisinteriors End table is fine, but get a much taller bigger lamp. Tan shade.

travisinteriors No fake flowers!!

Jayme Hobbs @travis...we already took out a striped sofa bed...Now we have the 2 leather sofas that they want to keep...looks a lot better...look at the start. pics..:)

solraven Oooo... Jayme! That could bring in orange AND green! Do you have a pic?

travisinteriors I know I late on comments I really like the green dining chairs.

travisinteriors A big ,mirror on dining rm wall would be great it will fill in wall.

Jayme Hobbs @solraven..of my bowl? No, I could take one..but don't know if it would do it justice...it's a large, bigger than large mixing bowl ..bowl...I fill it up with multicolored fruits, etc... Maybe a lower sided bowl would show more fruit..and take up more table space on ecelectcoh's table?..(My table it round)...?

solraven A mirror would look nice. :)

travisinteriors By front door check Ikea they have some nice round small rugs that would work. What ever color you decide on chairs, should be color of rug. Check Ikea for ary. Some really big pieces behind sofa. Remember hang low no more than 5" above back if sofa.

travisinteriors You need area rug under dining table. 8x10 is size you need. Don't go smaller . A print with colors from other rug is good. They don't have to match.

solraven @Jayme, yes of your bowl. That's a pic of my dining room table, but I like your idea better! You could improve two dining rooms with one bowl! LOL...

travisinteriors No orange!

solraven Yes Orange!!!! LOL...

Jayme Hobbs But now I am afraid my bowl won't measure up!! (feelings of bowl insecurity)!! LOL

Jayme Hobbs that's your table ...Oh goodness, I need to look closer before I comment..thought it was eclecticoh's!! LOL I'll work on a pic...I use my phone and the pics look like crap..I could get hubby to use his I phone in a bit!

solraven omg.... you're out of your mind! LOL... You have amazing ideas! That bowl went to a 44" round, dark table in my old place. It's only here because you haven't shown me a better one. You know, if you don't show us, eclecticoh and I will have to settle for a fruit bowl look that's meant for another table. :(

Jayme Hobbs I am glad u finally realized I am cracked!! (bout time)...OK ..i'll get a pic up soon!! LOL

solraven As soon as you mentioned an orange bowl, I started looking them up on the web. The only reason I added the mango to the bowl is because the light, muted table (and green sofas) look better w/ some kind of orangy reds. But!... a low orange bowl would look even better! =)

PS: and I just wanted to take a picture, of the perfect mango, that fell off of the tree today. LOL...

solraven 818?

Jayme Hobbs Oh...we must be up to 818 comments now. If it bothers someone they can always bypass it.

solraven Oh, I thought it was code, like 5-0 is code for the cops. LOL... 818 comments would be comments about orange bowls. ;)

Jayme Hobbs 51 5-O.. Somebody call the Po Po!!

Jayme Hobbs And take a pic of my bo-bowl!!

vacox Have you all been having Friday evening drinkie-poos? LOL

Jayme Hobbs @vacox...just 2 miller lites in several hours, so if my calculations are correct, at the rate the average person utilizes alcohol...I am stone cold sober..So it must just be weirdness! LOL

Darzy Jayme...you 51-50? lol nawwww..

Jayme Hobbs Darzy..U just made the 830th comment and it forced me to make the 831st!! lol

solraven I wasn't drinking then, but I am now!! LOL... Thus far, I've only had one Guinness... but that's about to change. :D