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Mezzanine Condo to transform without loss of light/airy feel

designideas2013February 8, 2013
I would like to transform this condo: 1. the mezzanine needs to be closed off for privacy reasons.
2. there is a 9x9ft space to the left of the living room. This needs to be a guest room. I was thinking of putting a murphy bed to the wall across from the windows. It also needs to be closed off when in use as bedroom.
Due to the immense hight I was thinking also of maybe hanging a bed in that space and make it retractable when not in use. (just thinking outside the box).
How can I best close off these spaces without making the living room seem tight and small. Conditions: lots of light and for the guest room: whatever is used to close off the space should take up as little space as possible, so when open, the living room has its original wide/open feel.
Who would like to think "outside the box" inside my box?
Looking forward to your ideas.
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Julie Thome Draperies, Inc.
Due to the angle of the ceiling it would be hard to do drapes as a partition to the proposed guest area. What about a large folding screen. Those old coromandel screens can sometimes be found...one of those would look great in your space., and look good even folded away when not in use.
Justa suggestion with furniture placement in your LR. You do not have enough space to place your chaits diagonally like you have. You have a chair covering a doorway, even if it is only to your deck??? you need to straighten up those 2 chairs and give yourself some more space that way. Th
Think what you ahve done upstairs with the drapes is about all you can do there .
    Bookmark   February 8, 2013 at 7:30AM
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Nancy Hehmann
You could put a nice Day bed there with several cushions along the back so that it can double as a sofa during the time it is not in use. You can buy pop up frames for underneath to expand the sleeping area. They can be very comfortable to sit on if you get a firm twin mattress (that is what fits on them). I have an oak one. They do not have to be metal. You can ask a furniture store it they have catalogues to look at to expand what you see online or in stores.
    Bookmark   February 8, 2013 at 7:53AM
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PamDesigns 3D
The space while bright and airy is awfully tall. How about creating a wall between the guest room area and living room that only goes as high as the mezzanine floor. Here is an idea I had for doing so while closing off the mezzanine as well by creating a horizontal line that will tie the spaces together , while not destroying the natural light of the space and giving you the separation you are looking for.
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I wouldn't close off that mezzanine area if it were me. It is a great feature (honestly if I were looking to buy a condo I would be looking for something like that - I love lofts). What you have done with curtains is the best solution IMO. You could change the curtains or put up some screens that can slide over, but I wouldn't wall over it.
    Bookmark   February 8, 2013 at 9:00AM
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First of all: Thank you to all of you for taking the time to comment. Now my thought:
1. Chickinvic: the curtains are not an option, since I live with a family member. Any concret ideas of slide-over screens? The room has to be sound proof, because when one person watches tv in the liv. room the one sleeping in the mezzanine needs silence. That is really what my post was all about, so you have missed the point. The closing-off question is for privacy. Thank you anyways for your comment.

2. PamDesigns: Thank you Pam. I like your presentation!
Problem 1: the heights of the condo is probably the attraction...it is a 990SF condo, and I believe it the hight goes, those 990SF would really look like it. I cannot really leave the ceiling open, because the guest would not have privacy. Also, I am looking for ideas on how to close off the 9x9ft guest room in a way that when not used as such, it is part of the living room and let all the light in from the window in the back. ..I have also thought of mirror doors, so the liv. room area will not look so small.
Mezzanine: Glass, is an idea, but does it block noise?
    Bookmark   February 9, 2013 at 4:38AM
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PamDesigns 3D
It's true, putting up a wall just to the mezzanine level would not give a guest privacy from those on the mezzanine level --unless you closed off the mezzanine level also. The point of not bringing the wall up to the ceiling accents the volume of the tall ceiling, allows natural light to fill the space and keeps the space in proportion. It does not keep noise out. Windows would not do much to keep noise out of the mezzanine area either. In order create better privacy into the guest area, move the mezzanine windows over to the left or run them along the top of the wall so they only serve to let light in and not create a view. In any case, you may need to look at what walling off the mezzanine does in terms of egress codes and resale value to your home. Mirrored doors may cause sound issues too as they are hard surfaces that will bounce rather than absorb sound waves.
    Bookmark   February 12, 2013 at 12:30PM
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Interiors International, Inc.
So it sounds like you need to build walls that are insulated and use solid core doors.
    Bookmark   February 12, 2013 at 12:34PM
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I'm just an amateur and probably don't have a true pic of your space in my head ... is it possible to do a framework that would have stationary glass above to fill a space that may not be square and then have wood sliding glass doors below that line for this little separate area. Curtain could be on the inside of the "little room" so that they could be drawn and would provide privacy but pushed back to the sides when not in use. The glass doors can be pushed back when privacy is not needed. These doors (patio or whatever you want to call them) push back in stages and are generally very heavy duty glass and are usually used on an outside wall ... so they must provide some sound control. You would have several "options": 1. Doors completely closed but can see out, 2. Doors closed & curtains drawn (part or all the way), 3. Everything open, ..... or for just a little privacy for a short time, 4. Doors open and curtains pulled! Want to get really creative ... etch the glass w/a design or scene that appeals to you!
    Bookmark   February 12, 2013 at 12:44PM
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Thank you all so much for your comments.
Jiitchenburg: I have been thinking of these doors and have acturally seen some. However, when they open the folded part sticks out...it cannot go towards the inside of the room - norm! I like your idea of etching the glass!
Interiours International, Inc. Sorry, that is the blandest idea and does not meet my requirements for light and openness. - yet. On the other hand: maybe i am looking for the impossible and i apologize for my not being humble.
But I am a strong believer in thinking outside the box, because if we don't, we will always end up with what exists already and that is unrealistic.
Pam Designs3D: could the ceiling maybe made of glass? Does that exist?
why not build a second mezzanine in that 9x9part? Put a ladder in the back that would only be used to go to bed...if there is a guest...the closing off wall would be only half way "real wall"..the rest maybe a window with an arch, or glass with a design.
This way I could leave the living room open at all times AND put a pull out couch or daybed...for even more guests.
I am getting more creative by the day and I thank you all for your cooperation.
    Bookmark   February 12, 2013 at 4:59PM
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PamDesigns 3D
I'm thinking your idea for extending the mezzanine over the guest area is a much better idea that some sort of glass ceiling that might make your guest feel like a bug in a jar.
    Bookmark   February 12, 2013 at 10:13PM
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Thank you for your comment, Pam!
    Bookmark   February 13, 2013 at 4:21AM
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Concerning the type of glass doors you can have .... here is a pic of one kind that is an "accordian" (sp) type door that could be used. Each section folds back over itself. There are also glass doors that would have 4 panels and the two center ones would part and push back over the one on the sides. No need to open them out into the room. I couldn't tell from the description if there would be an opening above these doors, but if so, it could be glass framed in so that it would allow for the natural light that comes in from the windows.
    Bookmark   February 15, 2013 at 3:43PM
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thank you! Great idea.
    Bookmark   February 15, 2013 at 4:41PM
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    Bookmark   March 20, 2015 at 8:57AM
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These huge volumes often become problematic, and many are closing off the upper portion and installing media rooms there. Seems a waste to heat and cool such a large unusable space. I like PamDesigns 'concept for closing off the bottom. so why not just close off the upper portion as well? It would make a good computer/reading nook or a storage room, if nothing else. How do you access the mezzanine? Is that a closet in the corner of the living room and could that area provide space to install a spiral metal stair? You could soundproof the guest suite. As for closing off the mezzanine, a tall sound proof pony wall taking up about 2/3 of the height and topped with thick glass or acryllic panels will allow the light from the skylights to penetrate the yet be private and quite as well. Those watching TV in the main living room would be advised to get wireless headphones when others are sleeping.

    Bookmark   March 20, 2015 at 10:06AM
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