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Floating Dinning Room Idea Feedback
Baywood Estate Homes
February 15, 2013 in Design Dilemma
We have tried this new design idea in our new company show home and are looking for feedback. We have designed this home with a floating dinning room suspended by rock pillars from the basement. Please take a look at all the other parts of the house and let us know including the master bathroom Stone Arched Grotto and the fitness room spa. Thanks, Jim at Baywood Estate Homes.
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decoenthusiaste
Does it require a dumb waiter or just a dumb cook who wants to climb stairs to serve a meal? Sorry, it doesn't work for me!
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michigammemom
It's a lovely room and the fireplace adds nice dining ambience. However, what is the proximity to the kitchen?
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Baywood Estate Homes
Right beside the kitchen and custom wine cellar there are more pictures of it and the other parts at www.baywoodestatehomes.com and also on our profile on Houzz under Baywood Estate Homes. Thanks for the feedback.
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decoenthusiaste
The idea of recouping some of the space lost to a vaulted ceiling is great, but I'd rather devote it to a media or workout space.
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n247080
Ugh, what an awful idea. Just moving the food and dirty dishes from point A to point B would be a nightmare I wouldn't want to do even once.
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Baywood Estate Homes
Kitchen is on the main floor 7ft from dining room so the amount of stairs you would need to climb would be 2 at a total height of 12". The room below the dinning room is a family room not to be confused with the kitchen. To see a full video your o the house please visit www.baywoodestatehomes.com and click on video your of 11 Hawk's landing drive. This design opens the basement space into a part of the house by the use of open spaces. Thanks, Jim.
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aniluap2
Not feeling it! Sorry
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onthefence
It's an interesting looking space but it makes me think of a restaurant. It doesn't feel like it belongs in a home.
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m3459
I absolutely love it. From watching the video, it seems all the service areas are on the same level as the dining room, ie, butler's pantry, kitchen, laundry room, etc? Which level contains the entry to the home? And is the master bedroom on the same level as the kitchen and dining room? It seemed so in the video. Again, loving it. What a breath of fresh air in architecture. Seems very livable.
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Not sure if dining room needs to be elevated to that of a most important space. Makes the living room feels like a basement space. All the catwalks required to service that dining space clutter otherwise prime space. Does not work for me.
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Sigrid
I would never use a dining room that made me climb stairs with dishes. I need to go up and down stairs when I dine on my patio, so I know what a pain it is.

Frankly, this house looks strange to me. It seems to have an odd marriage of plenty of windows while the interior spaces seem windowless. The room with the big stone fireplace barely has a few skylights and the family room has the stairs blocking almost all the views.

This is an issue with some of the McMansions I saw when looking for a house to buy: they were full of "features" like a floating dining room, but the over all layout made for awkward rooms.
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Sigrid
And do you have to lug all your dirty dishes through the living room to get them to the kitchen?
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SPACIALISTS
I think its cool, its just soo different from your traditional expectations. change is good.
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solraven
It looks more like a funky Barnes & Noble than a home. It's a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't pay for it.
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Lydia (Kazza Design)
I would have to agree that this doesn't really work. It's senseless (and hazardous....lol!) bringing dishes and food up and down the stairs and not very practical with kids. The space is interesting but it would be better used as a reading/hang-out area. Media area wouldn't work because it's an open space.
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As an idea, it belongs in a loft setting but not in a house with traditional architectural elements.
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Baywood Estate Homes
Thanks for all the comments. We strive to devellop new ideas and spaces to try to break the traditional cookie cut form. We use feedback in future designs. Appreciate the feedback. Jim.
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RM Interiors
I have to also say I'm not a fan.
I don't like the heaviness of the columns.
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bubblyjock
Handsome is as handsome does! Lovely stonework, Jim!

Stairs between where the cook cooks and where the cook serves are fraught with the risks of tripping, spilling, and endless swearing.

It reminds me of an airport, or something, all that space and columns with no anchor, somehow - not sure why.

I do like the space, though - it's a bit Kate-and-Leo Titanic-esque! I'd be tempted to stick a really comfortable big sofa up there, if anything, so I can sleep on it - bet it gets toasty warm, hot air rising and all that.
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M3495 yes the master bedroom is on the main floor opposite the kitchen on the other side of the dinning room. Sigrid these photos don't really show it but the dinning room faces a full wall of glass looking onto a prestigious former LPGA golf course. I didn't do a good job with telling the full story with these pictures that I have chosen but the house your video on our site www.batwoodestatehomes.com tells a much better story. Please keep the comments comming find them really constructive an we thank everyone so far for the input both good and bad. Jim.
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kimdee24
I like it, but I would like it more if there weren't stairs to manage. If you could drop the level of the floor and eliminate the stairs, I think it's an elegant and interesting dining space.
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kimdee24
Just curious, Jim... what part of Calgary are you building in? What size is the lot (ie: how close are the neighbours)?
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mmilos
I like it a lot. Seems like a very cool place to have a dinner party. Or could be a nice after dinner lounge space. Beautiful home.
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Design Mode
Your suspended dining (please note proper spelling!) room stretches my comfort boundaries - I dislike the height, glass barrier, and the small space. Why would any home owner want this? It reminds me of the Guinness Museum in Dublin Ireland, with several floors of glass escalators and bridges up to the 7th storey bar with 360 degrees of windows. Yikes! You need the free pint after that voyage upward.
In a high end design, materials are luxurious, expensive, imported, rare, refined, exotic, and natural -think of marble, rosewood, and precious metals that have been used for centuries in the world's greatest buildings.
On the other hand, we have the multitude of stone for this home. I think it looks too rustic for a high end home, a bit man-made, and more suited for a cabin-style retail site. If it is real, it appears unnatural because it is too "neat." Overall, your house looks like a Big Box Commercial Winery, as if it is the neutral, hinting-at-luxury background for the real purpose of selling merchandise.
There are too many enclosing beige walls, big boxy fireplaces, and not enough expansive outdoor views for me.
That is one Designer's opinion.
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Baywood Estate Homes
Hello kdeley we build throughout Calgary and surrounding areas. Thu show home is located on Priddis Greens Golf Course in Hawk's Landing. It is located on .82 acres of country estate living. Neighbors are about 20' away on either side with an este entrance and no one behind but golf course. For a gret tour please view the video tour on our website. www.baywoodestatehomes.com. Thanks again, Jim.
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mmilos
Everybody has an opinion.... Haha!

I looked at the additional pictures of the home on your profile. One criticism I have is on the front exterior elevation...the front chimney I believe looks too short against the tall roof line. I would prefer to see the chimney extend above the roofline.
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Thank you Design Mode for your professional designer opinion. You have a keen eye to notice the over 6500 sq. ft. If natural High end stone throughout the house and the marble floors. The theme of the house is slightly rustic as it is located in the prestigious country estate community of Hawk's Landing so we are really happy you affirmed that this feeling has been created. Please keep the great feedback comming we really appreciate it, Jim.
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Mary Dancey Interiors
Hi Jim, I love the overall look of this home. I quite like the stone and as it's in Calgary, which is at the foot of the Rockie Mountains (for those nay sayers), it's a perfect mix of stone and wood and looks quite at home in it's natural environment. As a decorator I'd probably like to see more colour but understand this is a model home so has to appeal to the masses. I'm concerned about the width of the dining room and just how close the chairs are to the stairs and if there was company, and lots of wine and laughter, more wine.....the stairs just might not be a good idea. Love the look of it though but I think if I was buying it I would repurpose the room for something else. Good luck with the sale.

Cheers
Mary
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Interesting but cold. I love drapes in my dining rooms and fabrics to soften the room and keep echoes to a minimum. This is all hard surfaces. I feel like I'm in a planetarium without the great view? Too much expansiveness of dry wall which I'm not a fan of. At the very least, you need a few large skylights from Velux for now.....interesting though. I also thought your fireplace boxes were a bit under scaled for the scale of the rooms.
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Intern, V-Design Space
I love the idea of using what would of been wasted space. I have a home I am working on, and am considering that option. I love the idea and how well it was implemented! Great job!
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ktmylady
Looks amazing! I love the stone work and would love to have this in our home!
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bubblyjock
Baywood Estate - Jim - you're very civil - I'm full of admiration for your diplomatic skills!

I think the house is most appropriate for the Calgary area, with the deep pockets, the firm Alberta approach to life, and the stunning backdrop of the Rockies to the west. Lucky lucky lucky.
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Baywood Estate Homes
Lefty47 thank you for your feedback for the person that lives to cook and entertain this house has been fitted with 2 kitchens and prep areas instead of one. Please take a tour on our website at www.baywoodestatehomes.com to see our custom 8 person steam room off of the gym, the master stone arched grotto and large kitchen with eating area. The tour can be seen by clicking the tour 11 hawks landing button in the homepage. Thank again, Jim.
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The Creative Man
Hi, I love the space and the idea of a floating atmosphere for dining. Great use of space.
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Aja Mazin
Baywood Estate Homes,

I admire your diplomacy and tact .
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Aja Mazin
Remember , you are asking people who spend their time planted like potted palms in front of their pc's.
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Ramona
This potted palm finds your high end home unusually cold. Stairs everywhere, angles everywhere, glass to clean everywhere. Something about the proportions of many of the spaces seems off. I watched the video. Your finishes are beautiful, of course, but I strongly suggest that you brush up on proportions and practicality of use. With or without servants, homes need to feel human and usable. My first reaction to this home were I there in person would be where do all these stairs lead and why? There are even stairs into the tub 'room' and no railing for people with wet feet. I think your company should reevaluate your designs from the point of view of the way people use a home first. Everyone likes a stunning visual, but if it is at the expense of livability, not so much. I even considered glass banisters just like yours for my deck because I didn't want to ruin my view, but in this home, they seem much too much. When I watched the video a second time, my impression of angles everywhere was confirmed. Sometimes one needs an uninterrupted rectangle for the eye. I like the five panel doors which seem to be a trend right now. Just my two potted palm cents.
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Aja Mazin
I just watched your video.

I commend you for your creativity, vision, and attention to detail.

Your kitchens are stunning!
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onthefence
It IS lovely. It does seem limiting though for the times you are serving more than 6 guests.
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DIAspoton
you did ask for honest feedback right?
understanding the video is not like a live visit, here goes:

it's dark and heavy. it' masculine and commercial. it looks like the clubhouses of
so many country club developments. attractive, expensive but not a home.
too much brown everywhere. the steel stair rails, so many pillars , so much stone, so much sheetrock.

the floating dining room is a miss. who would want to carry a platter of food or a tray of cocktails up 3 steps. the space has an uneasy feel about it as if you're at once on display and yet suspended in isolation.

did i count 2 large sphere chandeliers? 1 in the dining rm and 1 in the rm below? having 2 would seem to diminish the WOW factor of a great pc.

owners suite:
more brown and heaviness. the stone spa tub enclosure with the stone arch grotto seems dungeon like.
vessels sinks are best left to guest powder rooms. in the video, it looks like a person looking in the mirror over the 2nd sink would see the water closet behind him. i hope that's not the case.

on a happier note, the entire kitchen area was very pretty and much brighter with so much natural light. the balcony is a very nice size for entertaining while enjoying beautiful views.
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Great comments Thank you for all the feedback. Jim.
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Kisarau Architect, LTD.
Don't listen to the nay-Sayers. Keep on innovating and push the envelope on design, otherwise we repeat the same boring designs.
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I agree as a future designer!! Pushing the edge doesn't mean you have to create a home that everyone wants to live in. Custom homes are just that, built for the owners enjoyment, customized for their needs.
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tomda
I just watched the video and I think the house is amazing. I don't think the pics do it justice. I am a golfer and love watch play, so for me the dining room with the full view of the golf course would be really cool. I think you did a great job!
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Baywood Estate Homes
Agreed, that is the foundation of our company: imagine, design, innovate and create. Our goal is to create a breath of fresh air and bring new ideas to the housing market. Our product has been well received in this market but are looking at getting the general consensus on a larger scale. We look at all feedback as good feedback. We understand everybody has different tastes when it comes to design from traditional to modern and everywhere in between. We value all feedback with an open mind and appreciate everyone that takes the time to write a review on how our ideas make them feel. Many Thanks, Jim.
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karmeg
Truthfully, not a fan.
The dining room looks like a hotel lobby, and even having said that, I personally don't enjoy public dining when I feel like I am part of an exhibition, much less in a home.
The stairs appear industrial, the stone pillars are brutally intrusive. My purpose is not to offend,
It seems a bit like someone was trying to be innovative and unique, without a defining concept.
The glass and steel (?) railings are actually agitating next to the stone. They do not work well together.WHO is your target customer ?
The dining room photo of the table and chairs and fireplace is a pleasing look, if it wasn't suspended and surrounded by the glass wall and commercial staircase.
My own personal opinion is to have more of an understanding of design as SECONDARY to function, and to get some professional advice about a plan that actual customers would want. You can still have a wow factor while working within the confines of good design ( knowing how and when to incorporate elements such as stone, metal and glass ). Large and equal amounts of too many applications are chaotic . I would personally rather see less of " look what nobody else has !" and more design integrity.
It appears you have some quality with regard to the actual materials used ; they just don't work well together.
Keep the quality and go forward.
( I have only viewed the photos of suspended dining room )
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Lady Von
Hi Jim, I have to say I LOVE IT! I love "modern rustic" styling. It is my dream style if I had the duckets to achieve it in my current home. I really like the floating dining space, very elegant. I believe you achieved a very elegant and fun space for entertaining. I hate vaulted ceilings. They are such a waste of space but placing the dining area there is a really nice touch. I understand people have different design preferences. But what is the point of designing if everyone designs the same thing? We should explore the boundaries of design. That is where progress come from. It doesn't mean you have to love everything but everything should be respected for the creative nature it expresses. Besides, whenever someone purchases a home, whether custom built or not, they will always put their personal touches on that home -- through paint, fabric and other textiles, furniture, art, accessories and more. So, that sense of "coldness" will leave once someone brings their personal touches to a space.

Its a show house. Show houses are supposed to be beyond our dreams, fantasy like. At least for me this house is a DREAM.

Good job!
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Eagledzines
I think this would be super nice in a restaurant.
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Baywood Estate Homes
Thank you Karmeg for your response. Please take a chance to view the video online. These railings were chosen to tie the commercial kitchen appliances in with the dinning living space as they are visible together at almost every view. I respect your opinion as to wanting a more traditional look. The theme of this house was to tie old world charm with modern architecture. An in house visitor survey done revealed that the theme was a strong desirable feature. This house has been featured in multiple magazines and newspapers. I again thank you for your feedback. Jim.
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Sigrid
Yes, I figured the dining room has a spectacular view. But how many people consider their dining room the heart of their home? How many families are actually doing to enter it every day? I'd bet most weekday casual dinners are in the kitchen, unless there's no room. So what you have done is destroy fantastic views in your living room where most people will spend part of every single day and maybe most of lazy days at home in order to get a feature dining room.

I wouldn't use it as a dining room, but it looks small and not very cozy (thanks to all the glass) for a den.

I'd recommend figuring out how to get your living room to have the view.
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hockey456
If it were my home, I know I'd eventually end up repurposing that dining room. Not a practical room especially for families.
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mmilos
You could put a pool table in... Perfect spot for it. And the cues wouldn't hit the walls. :-)
Stick with the masculine rustic vibe. A big moose mount over the fireplace. My perfect bachelor pad.
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Jim, congratulations for taking all opinions in stride! In Design, the critique process is necessary in the pursuit of excellence. It takes strength and maturity to separate one's ego - and you have exemplified both, my friend.
I have looked at the Hawk's landing website. I do love with their vision for the community, choices of materials, style of architecture, and other than the golfing, the site.
My design philosophy is to enhance the best qualities of the elements, and creatively turn problems or limitations into assets.
I think the best features of this site are the trees, large lot sizes, amazing hillside views, and commonly-themed architectural styles that embrace nature. Their outlined restrictions of "ostentatious or inappropriate" materials or designs best reflect the style of the community. Da Vinci said, "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" and Socrates said,"... nothing in excess." In the restraint, beauty is created.
And I get it that people are paying top dollar for this design philosophy to be expressed in their homes.

However, in your admirable pursuit of being creative - you have broken the sensible rules outlayed, used some materials to excess, and sometimes failed to enhance the glorious outdoor vistas.
By making use of the lofty space as a dining area or anything else, you created a scary eagle's nest with the living space below it becoming a dark dungeon. You have used glass railings throughout the interior - which your community restricts (with good reason) for outdoor use. I believe the reason for this stipulation is because it is a modern element that doesn't fit with the Arts & Crafts, Craftsman, Tudor, and French Country architectural guidelines.
If your design ideas truly embrace the natural site, and the architectural styles chosen, there is no reason that the only way to stretch the bounds is to go completely contemporary or modern. You can use modern sensibilities of clean lines, natural materials, and simplicity. Modern sleekness, plastic, chrome, and pop art colours seem out of place in the mountains, and more suited to an urban abode.
Keep on being creative and pursuing excellence in your design process. But understand the rules, and the reasons for restraint - respect them as a door to creative possibilities.
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mmilos
Design Mode, your comments come across as very haughty especially with your down talk. That's some constructive criticism for you.
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soberg
I have to agree with Design Mode here. I would not feel comfortable in that home. The spaces are not human in scale or feel. People seek a balance of light and views with enclosure and comfort. Yet in this house one is either dining, exposed to the apparent elements like an eaglet in its open nest, or buried in the dark living room with the crushing visual and actual weight of the dining room always sensed overhead.

I would never choose a house that had steps from kitchen to dining room. I've made and served too many meals in my day to even consider it. Obviously, others feel the same. It's almost frightening to think of the work of carrying food and plates up and down those steps. I'll happily climb stairs all day long, but not carrying trays of food. Older people will especially shun it. It's also completely unlivable for anyone with physical challenges.
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The height scares me. I think of having a party and some kid falling or someone who maybe drank-liability. Eek! But it's lovely looking, just not for a lot of women who want more softness to their dining rooms.
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jasoncouch
Very nice.
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Ramona
I find it fascinating and somewhat discouraging that while Jim has taken all the criticism in stride, other Houzzers see honest criticism as snide or haughty. I think Design Mode tried to offer clear critique and tried to maintain a conversation. Jim is trying to find out how to improve his product. All feedback tells him something, and he realizes that. While some Houzzers love this home others do not and are trying to be clear about why. Jim knows his future depends on understanding all the responses to his product, not just some. I agree with much of what Design Mode stated about the elements in the design. I do not find this home livable or welcoming. Something is fundamentally off and Jim needs to know what that is for his future projects. Ego has nothing to do with it. Words on a page from an anonymous source can always be misinterpreted, and we all need to understand that here. There is no point in assuming the person on the other side of the keyboard and screen is here just to play an ego game.

Except that modern in the country is a definite possibility, but form follows function, always.

"Open your Eyes" by Alexandra Stoddard has an excellent guide to proportion which shows how the golden rule of proportion should be the basis of all design. I would study books like this and try to evaluate your designs through the lens she suggests.

As I said earlier, the multitude of angles inside this home makes me feel very uncomfortable just looking at it. There is no where for the eye to rest.
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Aja Mazin
It's all opinion and no one opinion has any more validity than another.
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mmilos
Ramona, my comments have nothing to do with the criticism. What comes across as haughty in Design Mode's comments is the "talking down"...examples: "Note the correct spelling", "In your admirable pursuit of being creative", "keep on being creative and pursuing excellence." These statements to me come across as haughty.

Just tell him what you don't like, but don't go into thinking your ideas are superior.
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Ramona, you are absolutely right. Just because some of us see there is something off in this design why are we automatically "nay" sayers? Most of us tried to explain what seems to be "off" and back up our opinion. I did not find any strong argument in comments why people like it beside .... the fact that they just like it. And I think this builder/designer wants to read comments that will improve his future work.
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Baywood Estate Homes
Great discussions and we really appreciate the feedback and research being expressed. By creating a floating dining room concept we have actually solved the issue of the basement dungeon feeling. Through live feedback the comments have been "by raising the dining room a mere 2 ft you have created a feeling of connect, openess and grandness when entering the basement". There is ample light not only in the basement but throughout the house that one does not need light until sunset. As everyone knows pictures can tell only a partial story not the whole. I appreciate the comments and views. I really appreciate Design Mode putting in the further research into the architectural guidelines for the Devellopment to develop a well thought out opinion. Please keep the comments comming both good and bad as we sell not only a custom residence but a residence that creates feeling and supports lifestyle. Jim.
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Some more facts to add to discussion. This house was designed by an architect. We pushed the design envelope on many items in this house and it has been well taken by our market, not by all but many. We have just recently found some of the design elements from this show home built into a few of our competitors new lines of show homes. Some design's are area specific and this might be one. To put a southern Spanish style home in this development would create an outcry just as placing this house in Phoenix would do the same. Again as stated above we are very interested in the valuable feedback we receive here to help us understand a wider group of opinions while still understanding our local market. Thanks, Jim.
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Ramona
@mmilos

Perhaps 'note the correct spelling' is in another post, but the one I am looking at doesn't mention that. People don't like to see their spelling and grammar corrected, but in general, it is a good thing for a professional to know if s/he has made a mistake.

My point above, was not to assume your reactions to what you see on the screen actually reflect what was going on with the poster and to give everyone extra space on a blog because we are working without the cues we would have in meat space.

Now, if I commend Jim am I going to be labelled haughty? I'd like to thank him for listening to all of us.

What's my investment? I'd like to see us all building and designing spaces that are ecologically sound and will stand the test of time aesthetically. Then we are contributing beauty and a high quality of life for all of us.
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mmilos
^ Comment #24 is the comment to which I refer.
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oldblackdog
There are a lot of elements that I love - all the stone ( which I don't register as "cold" but strong and sheltering) , the wonderful sphere chandeliers... a bit like a medieval castle -- wouldn't it be a gas to be kids playing hide and seek in here?

The hovering dining area is a new idea- the openness and height might be good for sometimes, but not so good for intimate dinners, and off limits to anyone with limitations. And - I have friends who would be in constant discomfort there because of being able to see down through the glass enclosures (you do not know how many people out there are terrified of heights and bridges!). Which does not mean that is isn't perfect for someone - but that they won't be inviting anyone with a fear of heights or any disability.

It does seem a bit commercial to me at the lower levels, but not in the bedrooms, which seem to have a feeling of privacy and calm ( and could use richer decors) Do not like the staircase dominating the area under the dining platform - that is a factor in making this look like a public lobby area, not somewhere to get cozy, despite the stone and fireplace. And if areas aren't welcoming , they won't be used.
Some of my plaints are private -as in you need help to run this place, even to have a dinner party. But I think there are a lot of folks who are like me, youthful 60's, which are beginning to screen design through eyes that scan for potentially insurmountable obstacles on the one hand, and those little graces which which make life easier.
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Aja Mazin
"In a sky full of people, only some want to fly,
Isn't that crazy? "
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Ramona
@mmilos

ah, DINING FOR DINNING

typo
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@mmilos
I am sorry if my joke about spelling did not come across as I intended. Thank you for pointing out that it seemed haughty to you, and I assure you that was not my intention. I will continue to insert ha-ha whenever I make a joke, which is hard to do on the interweb (ha-ha it's internet, not interweb).
As to my other comments that you quoted: "In your admirable pursuit of being creative", "keep on being creative and pursuing excellence" you can only take my word for it that these words are praise for Jim. I do think Jim is pursuing "the best" possibilities for design and his business. That includes asking for honest feedback. He isn't asking for hand-holding (((hugs))) or nice compliments only pppppplease!!!, because how would he ever get better if that's all he heard?
Many people have taken time to express their opinions, in the interest of better design.
For some reason, this unique home pushes buttons. That is much better by far than anything boring or copied.
Peace?
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jthoye
This is a bad McMansion interior what a waste of money
0 Likes   February 16, 2013 at 1:37PM
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jthoye
All the charm of a Hyatt
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trasgorshek
Baywood Estates, It's a gorgeous home. And after taking the tour you can really appreciate all the finishes that went in. Love the hand scrapped wood floors, travertine tile, stone veneer, etc. You can't beat the view and love how you can't see the whole house right when you walk in. The kitchen is breathtaking. As far as elevating the dining room, doesn't bother me at all. I love how it's separated from the rest and meant for real entertaining. The only thing I personally might have an issue with is after hours of lively conversation and enjoying the wine, steps and balconies could become a hazard for someone as clumsy as myself. It's a beautiful home, I wouldn't change what you are doing.
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loretam
Like the innovative idea of a floating area, not really sure if a dining room is the best choice for it.
And even though I love the kitchen, the stove enclosure with the high walls/lack of storage around it would drive a real cook like me completely crazy!
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Aja Mazin
jthoye

Oh my!

Hopefully, the residents of 11 Hawk's Landing do not speak English.

I do not think I have ever witnessed someone insult all the residents of a development in Canada.
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Baywood Estate Homes
Thank you everyone for the great feedback. Pictures never tell the whole story so that is the reason we had a video made. Again to see a video of this home please visit www.baywoodestatehomes.com. Thanks again, Jim.
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aniluap2
Jim, I have viewed the video, and it is obvious that a good deal of effort went into picking the finishes and the overall design. The price point of the homes seem quite reasonable for the quality and location. Although I am not familiar with Calgary (having only been in the eastern parts of Canada) I have visited several friends who own vacation homes in Montana and Idaho in similar type settings. What bothered me about the design was the lack of warmth. The stone work was indeed beautiful but maybe you need some more wood finishes to soften the hard edge of the rock and glass. It was an interesting house to tour on video, but as many of the Houzzers pointed out, it felt very commercial, like a high- end ski lodge. It could be the American perspective , although we have stayed in some very appealing homes in Tremblant, but I feel it does not feel like a home. I saw it was available for immediate occupancy and I am sure you will sell it quickly given all the positive feedback you have received from the live tours. Good luck.
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Eagledzines
First of all, let me say that I admire your gracious responses to some not so graciously put critique. Also, it's obvious that the architects of this home have vision and have given attention to detail and used wonderful imagination.

After viewing the video, I would like to express a positive vision for this home.

1) If I purchased a home like this, although beautiful, it would not be my primary home. It would make a fabulous second or third home complete with butler/driver, maid and cook. I would love to have it available when I wanted it. During the times I didn't plan on being there, I would list it as a luxury rental on a world wide market. This type of use for the home works well with it's more commercial feel. Having the personal services available means that I could ignore the commercial feel of it and let others worry about taking care of me. It would also help to insure that it wasn't abused and that it was well cared for. Who of us doesn't enjoy being pampered at a luxury motel. Thus, (as always) the location would be of prime importance. Putting this in a development would not be my first choice. That's not where I would want to spend time away from home.

2) The aesthetics created by the positive and negative space and abundance of natural stone lend itself to a rugged environment. I can see this fitting in nicely on piece of property that sits on a stone cliff overlooking a gorgeous view of the mountains or ocean or maybe on an island. (Not in a place where you bring the kids to go swimming and track in sand or any other place where it might sustain abnormal environmental abuse nor in an area developed for economical family vacations).

In my opinion, some of the negative comments above reflect the idea that this is a primary residence. Viewed in a different context, I believe most people would have a positive review.

Thank you for asking for our thoughts. Best wishes.
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bubblyjock
Ah, yes: the old "talks the talk, or walks the walk."

It is my observation, after a bit of idle Sunday morning googling, that Jim here appears to walks the walk, while some of the other critics here...I'm sure you get the message.
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aniluap2
Eagledzines, I, for one, always assumed the home was meant as a second home and not a permanent
residence, given its location, and I second your thoughts of it being used as an investment vacation rental property. It is a very "adult oriented " home and not meant for buyers in their late 50's or 60's for
the reasons stated in some of the previous posts. I totally get the reasoning behind the floating dining room and the ability to put more light into the basement level making it appear to be part of the overall house and not a subterranean dungeon. However, the execution seems to lack something and maybe one can take the above comments and use them to tweak the concept, so that it is more inviting to a wider audience of vacation home buyers.
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tlsassy0411
I would love in the future to build a home like this in the hill country of Texas. The grand rustic ambiance of this home would fit right in with the majestic views. I love the stone, the colors, and floating/suspended dinning room. Meals for us are a celebrated event in our family. How fitting to be showcased and on display. I can see our family clearing the food and settling down to some serious game playing. The kitchen is gorgeous. My daughter and I could do some serious cookie making. I might have a hard time leaving the master retreat though with the steam shower or that great grotto tub. I have looked at lots of homes and it is refreshing to see something that none of my neighbors would have. Good job Jim on this home.
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jthoye
What does canada have to do with it? Bad design is bad design. You must work for the Mc Mansion builder
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Again we really appreciate all of the intelligent well thought out feedback. I know allot of people have taken the time to give us some really valuable insight on what they feel design should encompass as well as the feelings it should create. We formulate an analysis of everyone's input which we will use in our new line of custom homes. This exercise has been a success for us in getting comments on both sides of the spectrum with allot of really well thought out intelligent responces. We thank everyone for their participation to date and look forward to the ongoing conversations fueled by pushing the limits of imagination, innovation and design. Jim.
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I think it is an amazing design statement. It has an artistic sculptural quality that seems to be eluding most people. I think it is daring and inspirational. I would love to work with you on a project like this. Your visionary use of materials and space is enviable. I look forward to seeing more from your company.
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mcbride2304
A beautiful home...would be worth twice your price in the northeast U.S....nothing here as creative as this. Love it!
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Don Or Janet Cook
So much fun to take the tour from my own small living room, of a home I will never will even be asked to step into! It looks so beautiful from the outside (craftsman type vibe) Would make a great B&B. Not a child friendly home , I don't think. Seemed to be a lot of little nook seating areas. Good for a party but not sure who would sit there otherwise. I suppose there would be staff to hike up and down to the dining room if one could afford the purchase. Maybe a dumbwaiter is there. Definitely a house for entertaining in. I can only imagine that life as I reno my little bathroom with stuff from Kijiji. :) Thanks for the tour. I had fun!
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Thank you for taking the tour at www.baywoodestatehomes.com. Jim.
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architectrunnerguy
Doesn't work for me. Reminds me of achieving drama by hitting people over the head with it instead of using the timeless subtlies that great design requires. The same could be said of those Toll Brothers family rooms that go up 21 feet. Like I'm supposed to feel comfortable sipping my coffe and reading the Sunday paper in a room that feels like the lobby of a Hyatt hotel!! No thanks.
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Liza Jane Interiors
What about a cozy sitting/library room instead? I love the look, but as many have said, not convenient for the cook.
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