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by cyclingthroughlife
3 months ago in Design Dilemma
What would you suggest for a mantel here?
We're building a Craftsman styled/inspired house and trying to figure out what to do for a mantel here in the library living room. For reference, the hearth is 72 inches wide and about 16 inches high. The ceiling is vaulted - at the walls it is 10 ft high and about 14 ft high at the center of the vault.

Upon entering the house, one walks a couple of steps, turns left through an arch opening from the foyer and this is what you see. I like to do something with the mantel and fireplace such that it makes an immediate impact to someone walking in. But in keeping with the rest of the house and the way we live, we want something that is a little understated (ie not over the top). I was thinking something "hefty" and substantial looking but very simple.

I've seen mantels where it is just the shelf and I've seen ones with the legs as well.

We looking to use Kotah Blue (more green than blue) limestone for the surround. Most likely going to use honed absolute black granite or leathered absolute black granite for the hearth seat.

But not quite sure how to think about this. I would appreciate your always helpful advice.

Thank you in advance.
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Anthony Concrete Design What about concrete tiles?
3 months ago ·
Yarbro Home Improvement LLC Your built-ins are Walnut? Cherry?
3 months ago ·
basil1234 What a great space. I would try to match the existing stain of your bookshelves with your mantle and try to line it up with the second shelf although something a bit chunkier in proportion or small arts and crafts style supports underneath to beef it up a bit. Would you consider painting or wall papering the backs of your bookcases-colour tbd by your fireplace facing material and colour. I would also try to get rid of the heightened hearth if possible.
The room has beautiful bones. It's going to look great!
3 months ago ·
Lizabeth I have never seen a Craftsman mantel with flanking bookcases to the ceiling. In the Craftsman style the fireplace generally has bookcases that are either the height of the mantel which generally is about 2/3 the height of the wall or slightly lower bookcases. The bookcases and doors you have installed tend to look Federal or Colonial style to my eye.

You should google Greene and Greene , who created some of the finest examples of Craftsmen work ever. Craftsman style is low and linear with Japanese influences.

The fireplace box would be larger and low and wide if you were doing Craftsman work. One has to design the whole fireplace wall as a unit.

That said you could do something rustic with what you've got it you don't want to continue the Federal thing.

I am attaching a contemporay craftsman influenced fireplace mantel because that is what I have a photo of, though I grew up in a bungalow with a true one. Just don't have the photos.
3 months ago ·
Christine Curry I'd probably do a cut stone wall all the way up from floor to ceiling. Hearth with large slabs of slate or similar stone used. I'd forego the traditional mantle on this one. http://depositphotos.com/6156415/stock-photo-Cut-Stone-Wall.html
3 months ago · ·
Darzy Since you have the bookcases flanking the fireplace, how about no mantle? A natural slate tile, hearth to ceiling would be warm and natural, yet an updated contemporary rustic look to the space.
3 months ago ·
Welcome Home designs

I like the fireplace in the attached photo and can see a similar look in your living room setting.
3 months ago ·
basil1234 to add to my earlier comment: given your existing bookshelves and fireplace position I would opt for no mantle as well and eliminate the elevated hearth. It would be difficult to include a mantle of different proportions than the thickness of your existing shelves and anything too ornamental would not work. Darzy's suggestion of natural slate would be great.
3 months ago ·
cyclingthroughlife Thank you everyone for your very helpful thoughts. Some very very good things for us to think about. Haven't thought about the mantel-less look, but will look at the site for some inspiration pictures. I wonder if a mantel-less look is necessary if we were to keep the hearth. Because of the required clearances for fire safety (for mantels made of combustible material), the bottom of the mantel shelf has to be a certain height above the fireplace opening (I think it was 22 inches assuming a 2 inch mantel shelf projection and can be a good 26 to 28 inches for a 6 to 8 inch depth mantel). This makes a mantel too high, especially if it was sitting on top of the 16 inch high hearth to begin with. That said, in a room with 8 ft ceilings, this higher mantel would be a problem, but in a taller room, maybe it has less of a visual impact.

To reply to everyone's questions

@anthony - haven't thought of concrete tiles. When I think of concrete, "gray" immediately comes to mind, although I recognize that you can get it in whatever color you want. Does it give a more contemporary look?

@yarbro - the built-ins are fir, stained English Chestnut and 2 coats of "conversion varnish". The fir matches the fir wood windows as well as the two old base cabinets that came out of an old home.

@basil - we thought about having no raised hearth. One of the nice things about it is that it does provide additional seating, as we're probably not going to put a lot of furniture in this room - maybe 2 couches or 4 chairs in front of the fireplace (in the past, we've always had too much furniture for a room). We also have a 13 ft wide window seat in this room, (left of the mantel) which is not shown, although it is on the edge of the room and not in the "conversation" area in front of the fireplace.

@lizabeth - great comments! We were going for the "library" look with this room (we love books and reading), and hence the taller bookcases (in fact, there are another two bookcases flanking each side of the arched opening, opposite the fireplace). We have the same fireplace in the family room, and there we have flanking bookcases more in line with what you describe. The mantel in your picture could work well there.

@christine - that's an interesting look and could be a statement look! Hadn't thought of the mantel-less approach before. Do you think the thinner stone gives it a more contemporary look, vs the larger stone, which is more rustic (or maybe traditional)?

@darzy - do you have any links to pictures showing what you described? I've seen some slate at the tile store and the ones I've seen are square or rectangular tiles. Were you thinking of some that were more randomly cut?

@welcome - that's a very unique mantel - very simple and elegant.. I love the "heft" of it, which was what I was thinking of originally.
3 months ago ·
Anthony Concrete Design @cyclingthroughlife - concrete is a surprisingly warm material especially if you use earth tones. It compliments other natural materials such as wood and steel very well, and you can make it as contemporary or traditional looking as you like! It's non-combustible and extremely versatile because it can be customized to almost any shape and colour. These days, artisans are making concrete as thin as 1/2" thickness. It can also come in a matt or high gloss (polished) finish.
3 months ago ·
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