Changing paint colors on angled walls and outside corners in an open floor plan
How do you stop or start paint colors or wall treatments on walls with 45-degree angles or outside corners? I can't figure out how to do this. I have an open floor plan with an angled wall that goes from the foyer, through the hallway into the living room then the dining room where it finally stops at an inside corner. The adjacent walls tower 18' up into the loft and stairway - no moulding or trim work to separate anything. I want to do more with the walls but don't know where to stop and start. Please advise.
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Marie here - I am an expert at paint, and how to stop and start paint is really very simple. Take a step back and take a look at how the walls are constructed. I've never been a big fan of painting one flat wall an accent colour, nothing in our world is one-dimensional, so why would we paint our walls on one-side?
As you choose your accent colour - define the wall you want to paint that colour, then continue painting that same colour as it wraps around and into hallways, and into other rooms - NEVER stop the paint on a soft curved corner, or what I call an "outside corner". Always end your paint on an inside corner - always when its a 90 degree angle.
If your accent colour is painting too much area - then rethink your wall that gets this colour. There is nothing more exciting that walking into and from rooms in your home seeing in anticipation the accent colour from one side, and it flows to and from that room through paint.
My basement currently has 8 paint colours in it - I've zoned it with paint.
Your dining area looks quite nice as it is, the colour is lovely, if you painted the walls in different colours, it would take away from the overall effect. IMO.
What I'd like to focus on first is the ginormous living room wall, the fireplace walls and its weird wedding-cake like mantel (now covered in dark brown paper) and chimney. Also, the lower hallway wall has a lot of marks so it needs painting, but since this paint color doesn't exist anymore I will have to find a new color that starts in the foyer, carries down the hallway and goes across the angled wall with the TV, then end that color on the inside corner of the dining area. However as you can see in the first batch of photos I uploaded, I will have to paint that bulk-head part underneath the spindles and the wall in the stairwell with the black and white abstract painting because there is no stopping point on that contiguous area.
I'm not so concerned with trends. I am into strong colors and wanting to create an exotic-feeling space evoking the "silk road" experience - with Indonesian, Moroccon and French influences.
Way too much going on…trim, spindles, contrast between your woodwork and your walls, etc.
I am definitely with lefty47 on her paint recommendation. I would find two lovely, neutral paint colors, possibly BM muslin for the walls, and BM linen white for your trim. Your ceilings a lightened (80%) woodwork color. That should help soften all the angles and lines.
Your corner fireplace could be made much more important. While keeping the walls/trim more of a background, I would put my effort into the fireplace. Do that in a Moroccan style, and tie that into your rug, keeping the focus there.
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I thought Writely said it was all one color she mixed in a five-gallon bucket. ???? I re-read everything and can't find the second color mentioned. I'm lost......
I am tiring of defending people from the wrath of Marie but I must. To stand by silently without speaking out against this, does nothing to stop the bullying. I wear a Kevlar vest and hard hat so it rolls off me but my heart goes out to those who are hurt by the attack.
Marie, I hope you will apologize before you find yourself Persona non grata. A delete is not an apology.
Judy G - The fireplace tile is finished - bronze glass mosaic tile with travertine border. But I'm open to a different treatment on the wedding-cake tiers...
I hope that clears things up. I do like the color blocking idea for the walls. Keep more ideas coming!
I am going to follow BrokerIntel's suggestion to remove the faux leather paper on the fireplace wedding-cake tiers and to remove the topmost tier itself, that should simplify things. Once that's done then I will be looking for more suggestions.
Best!
Denice
Live with it scaled down and then see if you really need to change the color.
I am starting to take things down from the fireplace. Please go to my new post entitled "Need help with wedding-cake fireplace" and tell me what you think.
Do you use the 'pass-through'? If not, I would recommend closing it off completely as I can see door into kitchen just to the right. Then the TV will balance the space much better. Because of the layout, it's just another thing which distracts from the 'important' walls and your kitchen will gain a new wall as well!
I also like the cohesiveness of all the connected walls being painted the same color - I see on your second floor there is another color and It is complimenting the lower color. However, I believe the darker color should be on the ground floor to 'ground' everything, if you know what I mean. Darker colors are heavy looking and should be used on the bottom - kitchens included!
Cheers!
Denice
I don't use the pass-through as a physical pass-through, but it's the only way light from the living room windows gets into the kitchen. Plus when I'm standing at the sink (on the other side of the pass-through) I can see into my garden through that opening so I would never give that up.
See if this link to my other thread works: http://www.houzz.com/discussions/388011#747794
Thanks!
I hate tv's above a fireplace - too high, and the look of stacked black rectangles is not attractive.
None of my ceilings are ceiling white, they are all a bright cream just for that very reason you mention.
Drywall the railing part of that squished fireplace to elongate that wall. Then either take off the overly heavy wood mantle & stretch out the stone treatment over the wall to make the fireplace area read larger or make it all wood. Then PLEASE close up the wall with the tv OR better yet work w an architect to open up the kitchen to the family room and get rid of all those openings. This would also open up the tight dining area. Find a better place for the tv - perhaps the tall wall perpendicular to the windows & use your sofa as a divider from the dining room so it is facing the new tv wall. MOVE the comfy chair away from the fireplace - use it in the new family room furniture plan. Right now everything is too crowded & needs breathing room & better functionality. THEN you can decide on paint - which may just be fine as is! KDG DESIGN
PS or move the fireplace to that big wall and put the tv above framed out beautifully to free up that corner.
So, if you close up that railing, balance the FP, remove one (or more) layers of the 'cake', remove the mantle, it will enlarge that wall.
I would consider removing the coffee table as well, to make more space in that room and perhaps would make my idea of the TV and couch as previously mentioned work.
If I may take the liberty to suggest a couple more ideas, over and above your original question - as I review your pics, - in the DR, I would switch the beautiful room divider and the plant in the other corner - for better balance in the area. Fold up the divider and lean it against the wall to add height to that other wall, and will give you more space as well. Lean it against that wall w/o the window OR use it in another room...
In the pic of your FP, to the right going up the stairs, I noticed a lovely pic leaning up against another 'accent' shelf. I would remove that to improve the flow of the eye. There is SO much going on in your limited lower level with all the architectural changes. Less is more, in your case, thus those architectural elements can be appreciated.
Now, the wall with the room divider and plant, there is a HUGE bare wall above. I would turn that beautiful mirror vertical and hang it HIGHER OR get a larger vertical mirror or a HUGE star-burst mirror. Hang the top your mirror as high as the little 'shelf' over the wall with the windows. That will make that room appear much larger as well - taking the eye up to the 'barren' space. Would also suggest moving your valance up as high as possible OR add a second, complimenting valance over it, hanging it up to the little 'shelf'. Now, you've added volume and created depth on those bare areas. If I remember from your other post, there is another long, narrow window, where you added a valance. IF it matches, use over the other valance and then leave that area w/o any window treatment. The small valance there draws your eye up there and (in my humble opinion) adds nothing to that window. I would prefer it bare, again for eye relief.
Respectfully, Linda
I feel the furniture is perfect just how it is. The flow works for me. I am not a subscriber to the current trend of minimalism and clean lines. I like Morroccan design and extensive ornamentation.
Linda,
I could remove the painting on the ledge, but would want to hang it somewhere else, maybe the loft.
The valances on the bottom set of windows are the same size as the ones on the top set of windows - which are hung close to the ceiling already. If I made the top ones longer it would block too much of the window and the light. Because of the bamboo blinds hung inside the window I felt I needed a valance to cover where the mounting board meets the window frame. Without any trim work on these windows it looked unfinished not to have anything covering the top. The top windows are at eye level when I'm sitting in my loft (over the kitchen). The rods will stay, but I could make new valances if there is a clear advantage.
No long, narrow window here, they are all horizontal
A coffee table is a necessity. I need furniture to fulfill functional purposes, not just the eye.
The mirror is not symmetrical - can't hang it vertically.
Can't do ceiling-to-floor drapes - the windows don't line up vertically and every time I open the back door the drape would get in the way. There is only 18" between the window and the door.
The plant has to stay by the window-needs the bright light.
I like the mirror idea, but can't afford to scrap my mirror and buy another - it was quite pricey. Maybe in the future...
I could remove the screen altogether, but I love it so and enjoy looking at it. I have three more panels.
Any suggestion on using the six panels somewhere here (that doesn't block the light!)???
See attached images as to what I like
How about if you fold it up and set it behind your plant - I know that's not what they were intended for, but try it out. You can then move your mirror to the left - (they don't always need to be centered on a wall) The negative space, called ‘ma’ becomes part of the image. I've seen them used as headboards or just to add a layer to a wall, as you've done but room is a factor here. My only other thought is to put it to the left of your entry door, to show it off and will add a little privacy to the LR.
Gosh, every-time I go back and look at your pics I see something else. I didn't notice it was a 'corner' FP but would still remove as much of the 'cake' layers as you can, and the FP mantel, which looks too heavy for the space. I actually like the FP much better now that I've seen the 'side'. However, the pic on the floor between it and the chair/ottoman is distracting. Would set the chair and ottoman at an angle as everything appears a bit 'square' - an angle always attracts the eye too. Remove that little 'wall light' there, and then nestle that small table in there... Move your floor lamp as close to the FP as possible, and angle the base and the light into the room then you can move that small seating piece a bit to the right - it won't look so jammed on that wall. Take the small 'black' item out of that corner and perhaps set it on your FP when it is done - too small for that space and just looks like it was 'put' there because there was nowhere else to put it. would look good in the middle of the sofa table or on your coffee table.
All these things are 'little' but make a big difference in the overall picture. Would love to see something 'round-ish' in that room as most are square. How about an oblong coffee table in your future.
I like your taste and all you needed was another person's perspective, that's why you came here!
"Shop" your house and move things around - from one room to another and it's always fun to see 'unexpected' things in a room.
I know you said you didn't like a TV over a FP, BUT most of the new homes are now doing just that and think how it would take up unused space instead of 'precious' space. When you alter those 'cake' layers, you could build the TV in there at the same time.
http://www.bhg.com/blogs/centsational-style/2013/03/03/functional-fabulous-folding-screens/
Friends, who live on a lake with a cathedral ceiling w/wall of windows,for view of the lake, not only from LR, but their loft, purchased a grouping of 'lake' type items (each fairly large in size) and hung them all high on that wall. What a difference it made for the entire room and loft! g
Can't move the mirror, it is centered on the chandelier - which can't be moved. That is centered on the dining table, which can't be moved. The room is too tight. Even with the chairs pushed in there is barely space to walk around them. Centered is the only way with those pieces.
Can't put the screen between the window and the door for three reasons: that's where i access the blind cord - which I use daily; there is a switchplate on that wall that I need daily access to; and the floor vent is right next to the door.
I need the wall light next to the chair for reading. The small black box hold the fireplace key and lighter.
Function, Function, Function!!!
I know that many people are putting tv's over a fireplace and think that it will be recognized shortly for the mistake that it is.
If I didn't already have a gorgeous headboard I would use the screens for that.
Thank you so much for staying with me on this. You obviously have great patience.
I would tape newspapers together or use a roll of packing paper and make 'fake' dividers. Measure each set and tape them to the wall and adjust according to that visual. With your space and your windows, it's hard for me to be any more exact...
Remove the pic from that wall until you get the spacing right. Don't want that pic to influence the decision - yet.
So, hang them three and three - exact space between will be a visual decision - center the 'group' on that wall. Now, up and down, put them in the middle of the measurement between those two curtain rods.
Leave them there for a few days before final decision, as they will be easy to adjust before being hung. Then, if you are not sure, move them down a little at a time, until they reach the height of the top of the current pic hanging there (no lower) and see what is most pleasing to the eye on the wall. You MAY want equal space between the ceiling and the floor! I can see that as well. Ask a friend who has a good decorating sense or eye for an opinion as well, if you would like. Don't worry about centering furniture 'under' it - everything will flow in the room. If you could post a pic of the 'paper' version, then I could assist.
If I did it there, should I still remove the top tier of the wedding cake, or does it make sense to have that tier as a "footer"?
Also, with the screen there I don't think I would want to hang the others on the wall - this one should be "special". What do you think?
First thought is how beautiful the screen is on a wall! Second thought, it draws your eye to the 'wedding cake' which you want to change as it is not complimentary to your room. So, hanging it there wouldn't be the best fit - in my respectful, yet humble opinion. I would utilize them all, either all six on that one wall or 3 on each of your tall walls - LR & DR.
I can see the spacing is different on each end of the screen - I would put the smaller space at the top.
So, to clarify, I think this beautiful screen draws the eye to something with which you are not happy, whether you remove one or two layers of the 'cake' or not. The group on the big wall, would draw your eye away from the FP and actually make it's awkwardness less noticeable!
I love the way the paint on the wall shows off the 'open lattice work' on the screen! I still visualize them on your walls.
I did try to scale them properly, but yes, I would need to raise them a bit to fit over the top of my painting - if that stays in its current location. I will also try the layout with 3 panels - with more space in between.
Good ideas, Linda!