Should You Stay or Should You Go for a Remodel? 10 Points to Ponder
Consider these renovation realities to help you decide whether to budget for temporary housing
Houzz Contributor and Seattle remodeler. You can also find me at http://www.ventanabuilds.com/blog. My husband Clarence and I own Ventana Construction, a full-service remodeling company with a focus on whole-house remodels, additions, kitchens, baths and custom new homes.
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For remodels big and small, homeowners all have to answer the same question: Should you find an untouched space in your home and live through the construction, or pack your bags and go? The answer depends on the size of your remodel and these nine other things you might never have considered.
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by Ira Lippke
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| 1. Money. The most obvious consideration is actually more complicated than you might think. Yes, it will cost money for a rental, but it can also cost money if you stay and you’re in the way. Some contractors charge more for projects where clients stay on, knowing there will be additional costs in cleanup, a rush to get mechanical work done so that plumbing and electrical services aren’t interrupted, and things as simple as lengthy daily conversations onsite with homeowners. This is a calculation best done in concert with your contractor and with a heavy dose of reality. If you’ve never visited a house undergoing a remodel, now is the time to do just that so you can get a clear idea of how much of your home will be affected by what you have planned. |
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by Kerrie L. Kelly
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| 2. Purpose. The type of project can immediately answer the stay-or-go question. If your roof is coming off for a second story or your house is being raised up, you will likely want to move out. These kinds of renovations make it impossible to heat or cool a home effectively and generally involve cutting off plumbing service, electricity, heating and air conditioning. If you know that a very large blue tarp will be part of the plan, consider that your invitation to an alternate dwelling. |
3. Scope. Work that includes more than half of your home or that affects all of your bathrooms and kitchen will pretty much rule out staying in the home as well. Most families can get by without a kitchen, but having no bathroom means nowhere to clean dishes or yourselves. And a single room to sleep in does not a home make.
4. Pets. The key with pets is keeping them away from the part of your home that’s under construction. Temporary doors and ZipWalls can help, but sometimes the incessant noise and activity can be disturbing to cats and dogs even if they are physically separated from the work area. Contractors are just as worried about your pets as you are, but you should know their limits. Some contractors actually ask for special contract clauses stating that they will not be responsible for the pets in the event that they escape.
5. Kids. Children are often fascinated by the work going on. But if you spend a lot of time engaging carpenters in talk with your kids, costs will add up quickly. Also, workers at your home cannot be asked to stop making noise at nap time (remember, you are paying them hourly), so if you have a young child, you need to find an alternate place to nap or bite the bullet and get a rental.
5. Kids. Children are often fascinated by the work going on. But if you spend a lot of time engaging carpenters in talk with your kids, costs will add up quickly. Also, workers at your home cannot be asked to stop making noise at nap time (remember, you are paying them hourly), so if you have a young child, you need to find an alternate place to nap or bite the bullet and get a rental.
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| 6. Cooking. A temporary kitchen can be just the thing to get you through a kitchen remodel. A hot plate, microwave and toaster oven are great for makeshift food production. Preparing and freezing meals ahead is very effective, provided that the remodel scope allows you to keep a freezer on. But making four to six months' worth of meals can be daunting. Homeowner Jennifer Bartlett made and froze food for two months before the remodel so she wouldn't have to eat out every night. This required purchasing a new freezer, but it was a solution she was happy with during her kitchen remodel and home office addition. |
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| 7. Cleaning. Do not underestimate how this may wear on you over time. Washing your dishes in the bathtub might get old after a few weeks. And even with thorough site protection, expect dust to collect around your home. It’s worthwhile to ask your contractor to run an air handler to filter out the dust for the duration of the project. 8. Sheetrock. It’s possible to strike a happy medium by staying away from demolition until the Sheetrock phase and then moving back in. By waiting until the Sheetrock is complete, you avoid the messiest, dustiest and noisiest portions of the project. This usually happens two-thirds of the way through a project, and that translates to a possible one-third savings on a rental. But your place will still not be move-in ready. |
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| 9. Having to go even if you stay. Some remodeling work requires zero occupancy even if you are able to stay for most of the project. Finishing hardwood floors generally means staying away for at least a day on at least two separate occasions while the fumes dissipate, for example. So even if you camp out at home during most of the construction, know that you may need to leave during certains times anyway. |
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| 10. Peace of mind. If you stay, you can be assured that you will be intimately aware of the state of your home. Going away has its benefits too. Homeowner Peter Langmaid’s whole-house remodel was completed earlier this year, and he stands by his decision to leave. “My advice for major remodels: Budget for a rental — it's less painful if it doesn't feel like an additional expense — and leave," he says. "The remodel will occupy plenty of your time; no need to wallow in the day-to-day action.” Tell us: Do you have advice on whether to stay or go? Share your thoughts in the Comments section below. |
Ideabook published on Jan. 22, 2013.
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Having twice remained in residence in flats for remodelling (kitchen once, bathroom the second time), I would certainly say that if it's possible to get out while it's going on, get out. And if you can't get out, stey well out of the way of the workmen. I didn't pay for the remodels to my flat, so money wasn't the reason for making myself scarce when the workmen were present: the desire to have my home back, to be ALONE again with running water 24 hours a day, and NO MORE DUST - it was worth anything to keep the men working and get the job done as quickly as possible. The day they said, 'It's finished,' and I admired and thanked them for their work, and showed them out the door - I wish I'd had a bottle of champagne at the ready. Bliss.
Very recently, we replaced our hardwood floors in the living room, and the decision to replace rather than refinish was made when we realized we'd have to leave the house (with dog and cat) for 4 days, as you have to pass through the living room to get to the bedrooms, bathrooms, etc. It was iffy if refinishing would give us a new floor look on our 40 year old oak floors, but being able to stay if choosing a new floor made that decision easier.
Staying for both of these (plus adding a new powder room) was very easy and problem free.
I am finally starting to like my house again after 3 years of total renovation -just finished our master bath .
Anyone starting a renovation/addition think twice about staying .
I have, however, lost a measure of faith in architects :( All the major mistakes were calculation errors or just plain ridiculously impractical ideas that No one could have anticipated from the drawings alone. I would really not want to stay for any renovation that involves bathrooms and kitchens. Being able to get away from the dust and dirt on the site has been a relief. After nearly 8 months we are DESPERATE to move back home. The dogs are far more flexible than we are and are very happy the close quarters of the rental space! Another plus is that the visits to our storage have convinced me that there will still be a measurable throw out before we move in and that perspective has been really useful. We had been in the house for 10 years before the renovation started, so the great clean out (s) are wonderful!
Neither should you under-estimate the settling dust - which is still coming from tiled bathrooms 6 weeks later - from grout. Maybe this doesn't happen with US tilers, but I'm guessing that its universal.
As opposed to that I did find, and I think this happens to almost everyone, that there were unexpected decisions to be made - always immediately - like positioning of electrics, fittings, lights etc etc So had I not been on site I might have either missed the opportunity, or delayed the work.
I knew from seeing my contractor's renovations to other homes he'd owned that he was not a 'designer' but was, nonetheless, a skilled carpenter who'd even built several homes. He also had a terrific fun-loving outgoing personality. First, I had him turn two small main floor rooms into one, close off two entries, and knock a door into the main floor bathroom. I then moved, with my cat, from my master bedroom upstairs into the new guest room cum office with en suite; of course now crammed with odds and sods of furniture etc. Which brings to mind, I was planning to redecorate (via Craigslist!) so sold off a bunch of furniture before the renovation. Nothing had to be put into storage.
Then my contractor went to work on the rest. BTW he had only one helper plus a few trades were involved at various times. The biggest change was extending the 'run' of the stairs to the second floor master which meant closing off the hall from the living room to the kitchen. The stairs had 10" risers and at the top you had to turn and bend to avoid bumping your head on the sloped ceiling, hence a new dormer was part of the redesign as well. That 3 feet of hall space was used to extend the stair run with a 'turn' stair. A new, wider hall was created under the stairs now into the dining area of the kitchen. (Much better than seeing the fridge through the previous hall when you opened the front door!) It was pretty well a gut and complete redesign of the flow of the house. From start to finish it took five months.
As others have noted there were design decisions being made several times a day. I was glad I was there to deal with them. It turned out it was stressful even as I thought I was having fun. (That revelation came with, I'm embarrassed to admit, a couple of visits to hospital emergency.) All in all I'm glad I stayed and I am over-the-moon thrilled with the completely 'new' house I now live in, complete with its new wonderfully eclectic Craiglist/Kijiji furnishings.
For several weeks the only remnant of a kitchen we had was a refrigerator that moved around from day to day. I kept a large salad bowl, salad tongs, a lettuce spinner, a cutting board, and knife in a box in one of the bedrooms and every night at dinnertime I would set up a card table and work light in front of the refrigerator and make a big salad. We saved money by not eating out and we improved (shrunk) our waistlines at the same time.
The remodel was a huge mess, much more that I could have ever anticipated, and in spite of our best efforts there was dust EVERYWHERE. Moving out would not have kept the dust from getting into all of our bedrooms, offices, and bathrooms so it wouldn't have helped that much. Regardless of the mess and hassle that we had for three months the finished product transformed our home, making it a real joy to be in.
Yes, there is dust from the old drywall everywhere and no, you can't avoid it. It will soon be replaced by new drywall dust which is even worse. It's not for the faint of heart, to be sure. Last night I was able to enjoy a glass of wine with an out-of-town friend while listening to the reciprocating saw in the background and my husband's occasionally colorful vocabulary. We are avid DIY'ers and he is a talented and patient man. Would I do it again? Yep. I just need a few more Swiffers.....
Here is but a small part of the hall bath remodel.
For HOUZZ, I'd also love to see an article about whether to stay and remodel the current home vs. building something brand new. Thanks.
Phase 1 was finished on time, and provides us with a spare room to turn into a kitchen when the time comes to move everything out, and friends/family are ready to put us up for a couple of days when we need to replace our central heating boiler and be without heating/gas.
I am glad we've stayed around as those meetings before the school drop off happen almost on a daily basis. Questions such as what angle do you want your door frame (nothing I would have pre-empted!), and where do you want your light switches have averted the odd issue and meant my lovely builders could get on with the job in hand without delay.
My builder has also resolved some problems that my architect didn't spot/address, and these conversations need to happen at the start of the day - having to drop the kids off at school My builder emails me on an evening if there is anything he needs to discuss the next day so we have time to think and discuss between ourselves. So far, I wouldn't change a thing and would stay where we were if we did this again... fingers crossed it stays this smooth!
Here is a google maps satellite pic of our cottage complete with blue tarp during our April 2011 ENTIRE roof replacement, trusses and all. You can see the trusses on the driveway.
And we stayed there for a week during this period. It was freezing cold and rainy but at least we were there when the tarp failed and rain water started pouring into our living room! We also enjoyed the rare experience of seeing the moon and stars from where the kitchen ceiling used to be!
We were really happy with our builder and the completed work, learned a ton, and got some neat time lapse videos of the new trusses going up. So all in all, a great adventure we'd do again (but hopefully won't have to!)
During the two story addition with two bathrooms and sun room project (photo attached) we were able to structure out work in such a way that the old and new structure were connected only in the last month of the project and the client was able to stay in the house for the duration.
1. faster construction time - we felt it was important to get the construction over with quickly and get on with our lives. With one child a high school sophomore at end of construction and one in eighth grade - we felt it was more important for them to spend as much time in the new house as possible before they move out for college. By moving out, construction can be done in 8 to 10 months vs. 12 to 14 months if we had stayed.
2. inability to work from home during construction - I work from home 4 to 5 days a week. The noise of construction would have hindered my ability to work from home and forced me to drive 120 miles round trip and take 3 hours out of my day just to go to the office.
3. "clean freak" wife - wife is obsessed with cleanliness. She is complaining about how dirty the construction site is, and it really isn't that dirty. If we are living in the house while it is under construction, her obsession with cleanliness and her battle with dust, dirt and god knows what else would have driven her (and us) insane.
4. Quality of life. We would have made a lot of sacrifices and live through a lot of inconveniences. Living like poor college students is fun the first time around, but not now (especially with kids) and that "adventure". Better to enjoy the construction experience than to suffer through it.
5. Separation of construction and life. I work from home and I can attest to the fact that work-life separation is difficult at best. Imagine living at a construction site - we'll never be able to get away.
Although rent was another cost impact to the construction budget, looking back as we are nearing completion of our renovation, I can say that if we had to do it again, we would make the same decision.
Now to the point, one afternoon (after my piano being moved for the third time) I simply packed my bag and showed up at my best friend's house. Everyone else stuck it out for the duration. But enough was enough. I constantly had Sheetrock dust in my hair, hadn't had a decent shower in a couple of months and was on the verge of crying at some point in every day.
Should you leave during a big project? Oh heck yes! Restful nights in a clean, quiet environment give one the energy and mental support to carry on with the work, even if that work is only supervising the project.
The marketing campaigns of the large home retailers has resulted in most consumers perceiving every home improvement project on an existing home is remodeling/renovating when it's technically much more once you're doing multiple rooms and changing the layout. For example, what if hour home was substantially gutted by fire, would you label that renovating?